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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 27, 2019 19:06:00 GMT
Etebo?! No player won the ball back more times, won more tackles or made more interceptions. No player went on more runs. He had an exceptional run in the first half after nutmegging one of their players, put a couple of decent balls in and won our penalty. Every time Etebo won the ball in a good position he made sure to f--- it up every time. A plus for his run when we got a penno, but his behaviour after that pissed me off! It was obviously decided before the match who should take the penalty. His behaviour? Joe Allen gave him the ball and he was happy to take it. Ryan took the ball off him and gave it to clucas. Etebo didn't kick up a fuss from what I can see and clucas took a shit penalty.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 27, 2019 19:23:53 GMT
Every time Etebo won the ball in a good position he made sure to f--- it up every time. A plus for his run when we got a penno, but his behaviour after that pissed me off! It was obviously decided before the match who should take the penalty. His behaviour? Joe Allen gave him the ball and he was happy to take it. Ryan took the ball off him and gave it to clucas. Etebo didn't kick up a fuss from what I can see and clucas took a shit penalty. Yeah round the pubs of the South of the City I've heard some shit about this 'incident' today. Clucas was clearly the nominated taker and Ryan simply did his job in ensuring that happened. The fact that my dead grandmother could take a better penalty than our crop of shithawks is neither here nor there in terms of what happened. That's the way it should happen, there's a nominated taker or an understanding like with Ric if he won the penalty he takes it and the captain makes it happen if there's any pissing about going on.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 27, 2019 19:26:19 GMT
Every time Etebo won the ball in a good position he made sure to f--- it up every time. A plus for his run when we got a penno, but his behaviour after that pissed me off! It was obviously decided before the match who should take the penalty. His behaviour? Joe Allen gave him the ball and he was happy to take it. Ryan took the ball off him and gave it to clucas. Etebo didn't kick up a fuss from what I can see and clucas took a shit penalty. So Clucas didn't discuss it with him before he went away, and then Shawcross stepped in?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 27, 2019 19:40:17 GMT
His behaviour? Joe Allen gave him the ball and he was happy to take it. Ryan took the ball off him and gave it to clucas. Etebo didn't kick up a fuss from what I can see and clucas took a shit penalty. So Clucas didn't discuss it with him before he went away, and then Shawcross stepped in? He hardly kicked up a fuss ala jese. He probably wished him luck. Etebo has scored the winning penalty in an Olympic final. What are clucas' credentials? Edit...clucas was nowhere to be seen when shawcross took the ball off etebo.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 27, 2019 19:58:00 GMT
So Clucas didn't discuss it with him before he went away, and then Shawcross stepped in? He hardly kicked up a fuss ala jese. He probably wished him luck. Etebo has scored the winning penalty in an Olympic final. What are clucas' credentials? Edit...clucas was nowhere to be seen when shawcross took the ball off etebo. I don't care about credentials, if the manager has decided before the game that's how it should be! Speaking about credentials here is really a sidetrack in my opinion. I really doubt Shawcross would have taken the ball off him unless it was decided. Also Clucas' reaction when he first went for the ball indicated this, but Etebo wouldn't give it to him. This was very similar to the Jese incident last season, because you increase the pressure on the penalty taker. If you want it to look like something else, well it's up to you, but it really wasn't.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 27, 2019 20:00:34 GMT
He hardly kicked up a fuss ala jese. He probably wished him luck. Etebo has scored the winning penalty in an Olympic final. What are clucas' credentials? Edit...clucas was nowhere to be seen when shawcross took the ball off etebo. I don't care about credentials, if the manager has decided before the game that's how it should be! Speaking about credentials here is really a sidetrack in my opinion. I really doubt Shawcross would have taken the ball off him unless it was decided. Also Clucas' reaction when he first went for the ball indicated this, but Etebo wouldn't give it to him. This was very similar to the Jese incident last season, because you increase the pressure on the penalty taker. If you want it to look like something else, well it's up to you, but it really wasn't. I'm only saying what I can see. Allen gave etebo the ball. Shawcross took it off him. Etebo took the decision like he didn't really give a shit. Clucas took a terrible penalty and we lost 2-0 instead of 2-1. Big deal.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 27, 2019 20:16:07 GMT
I don't care about credentials, if the manager has decided before the game that's how it should be! Speaking about credentials here is really a sidetrack in my opinion. I really doubt Shawcross would have taken the ball off him unless it was decided. Also Clucas' reaction when he first went for the ball indicated this, but Etebo wouldn't give it to him. This was very similar to the Jese incident last season, because you increase the pressure on the penalty taker. If you want it to look like something else, well it's up to you, but it really wasn't. I'm only saying what I can see. Allen gave etebo the ball. Shawcross took it off him. Etebo took the decision like he didn't really give a shit. Clucas took a terrible penalty and we lost 2-0 instead of 2-1. Big deal. You obviously didn't see Clucas claiming the ball then? I actually think it's a big deal if a player decide to overrule the manager's word on the matter and increase the pressure on a team mate. This is a team sport! Clucas might even have scored if this had not happened, and we could have seen some optimism for the last 5 minutes as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 20:25:30 GMT
I'm only saying what I can see. Allen gave etebo the ball. Shawcross took it off him. Etebo took the decision like he didn't really give a shit. Clucas took a terrible penalty and we lost 2-0 instead of 2-1. Big deal. You obviously didn't see Clucas claiming the ball then? I actually think it's a big deal if a player decide to overrule the manager's word on the matter and increase the pressure on a team mate. This is a team sport! Clucas might even have scored if this had not happened, and we could have seen some optimism for the last 5 minutes as well. He might have scored, but instead he caused an argument and then fucked up the chance of getting us a goal back. Etebo was buzzing after winning the penalty and should’ve had the chance to take it. I don’t lay any blame on the missed penalty with Etebo, were it not for him we wouldn’t have even had a penalty in the first place.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 27, 2019 20:32:52 GMT
I'm only saying what I can see. Allen gave etebo the ball. Shawcross took it off him. Etebo took the decision like he didn't really give a shit. Clucas took a terrible penalty and we lost 2-0 instead of 2-1. Big deal. You obviously didn't see Clucas claiming the ball then? I actually think it's a big deal if a player decide to overrule the manager's word on the matter and increase the pressure on a team mate. This is a team sport! Clucas might even have scored if this had not happened, and we could have seen some optimism for the last 5 minutes as well. Allen gave the ball to etebo. He didn't grab the ball or do any such thing. This lot are not a team and clucas is the biggest example of that. Shit footballer with a huge chip on his shoulder
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Post by Veritas on Jan 27, 2019 20:33:33 GMT
You obviously didn't see Clucas claiming the ball then? I actually think it's a big deal if a player decide to overrule the manager's word on the matter and increase the pressure on a team mate. This is a team sport! Clucas might even have scored if this had not happened, and we could have seen some optimism for the last 5 minutes as well. He might have scored, but instead he caused an argument and then fucked up the chance of getting us a goal back. Etebo was buzzing after winning the penalty and should’ve had the chance to take it. I don’t lay any blame on the missed penalty with Etebo, were it not for him we wouldn’t have even had a penalty in the first place. The manager had decided beforehand who was taking the penalty Etebo's enthusiasm was understandable but it was right to insist Clucas took the penalty even though he missed it.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 27, 2019 20:36:44 GMT
You obviously didn't see Clucas claiming the ball then? I actually think it's a big deal if a player decide to overrule the manager's word on the matter and increase the pressure on a team mate. This is a team sport! Clucas might even have scored if this had not happened, and we could have seen some optimism for the last 5 minutes as well. He might have scored, but instead he caused an argument and then fucked up the chance of getting us a goal back. Etebo was buzzing after winning the penalty and should’ve had the chance to take it. I don’t lay any blame on the missed penalty with Etebo, were it not for him we wouldn’t have even had a penalty in the first place. I really disagree to your point of view here, it's like saying the players should play as they want and not how the manager tells them. This is a TEAM SPORT!
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 27, 2019 20:43:56 GMT
You obviously didn't see Clucas claiming the ball then? I actually think it's a big deal if a player decide to overrule the manager's word on the matter and increase the pressure on a team mate. This is a team sport! Clucas might even have scored if this had not happened, and we could have seen some optimism for the last 5 minutes as well. Allen gave the ball to etebo. He didn't grab the ball or do any such thing. This lot are not a team and clucas is the biggest example of that. Shit footballer with a huge chip on his shoulder I don't know if you will accept this or keep going forever, but this is my last reply to you on this matter. Etebo had the ball, yes! Clucas approached him because it was obvious that he had been picked for the job and claimed the ball, yes! Etebo didn't want to let him have the ball, yes! Shawcross stepped in and took the ball away from Etebo because he knew what had been decided, yes! Clucas missed the penalty, yes! Etebo certainly increased the pressure on our penalty taker, yes! If the manager has decided who should take the penalty the players should accept it, yes! The manager should decide how to play and make the decisions, yes!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 27, 2019 21:00:57 GMT
Allen gave the ball to etebo. He didn't grab the ball or do any such thing. This lot are not a team and clucas is the biggest example of that. Shit footballer with a huge chip on his shoulder I don't know if you will accept this or keep going forever, but this is my last reply to you on this matter. Etebo had the ball, yes! Clucas approached him because it was obvious that he had been picked for the job and claimed the ball, yes! Etebo didn't want to let him have the ball, yes! Shawcross stepped in and took the ball away from Etebo because he knew what had been decided, yes! Clucas missed the penalty, yes! Etebo certainly increased the pressure on our penalty taker, yes! If the manager has decided who should take the penalty the players should accept it, yes! The manager should decide how to play and make the decisions, yes! Clucas did not claim the ball from etebo. Shawcross did. Who really gives a shit though. Clucas is wank. Etebo is wank and jones doesn't seem a whole lot better than the rest of the wankers.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 27, 2019 21:03:44 GMT
I don't know if you will accept this or keep going forever, but this is my last reply to you on this matter. Etebo had the ball, yes! Clucas approached him because it was obvious that he had been picked for the job and claimed the ball, yes! Etebo didn't want to let him have the ball, yes! Shawcross stepped in and took the ball away from Etebo because he knew what had been decided, yes! Clucas missed the penalty, yes! Etebo certainly increased the pressure on our penalty taker, yes! If the manager has decided who should take the penalty the players should accept it, yes! The manager should decide how to play and make the decisions, yes! Clucas did not claim the ball from etebo. Shawcross did. Who really gives a shit though. Clucas is wank. Etebo is wank and jones doesn't seem a whole lot better than the rest of the wankers. Could you please watch a replay or something! Did you actually see the game???
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 27, 2019 21:38:14 GMT
Clucas did not claim the ball from etebo. Shawcross did. Who really gives a shit though. Clucas is wank. Etebo is wank and jones doesn't seem a whole lot better than the rest of the wankers. Could you please watch a replay or something! Did you actually see the game??? Unless the replay is edited it shows exactly what I described to you. Clucas isn't even in shot when Ryan takes the ball off etebo. You are making it out to be a far bigger incident than it was
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 27, 2019 21:39:44 GMT
Unless the replay is edited it shows exactly what I described to you. Clucas isn't even in shot when Ryan takes the ball off etebo. You are making it out to be a far bigger incident than it was
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 27, 2019 21:40:49 GMT
Unless the replay is edited it shows exactly what I described to you. Clucas isn't even in shot when Ryan takes the ball off etebo. You are making it out to be a far bigger incident than it was That is 2 responses since your last say on the matter
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Post by stokiewillt on Jan 27, 2019 21:43:30 GMT
For me v Hull
Butland Bauer. Martins Indi. Williams. Pieters(if fit) Clucas. Etebo. Adam. Allen
Afobe. Campbell
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Post by kustokie on Jan 27, 2019 21:51:29 GMT
Allen gave the ball to etebo. He didn't grab the ball or do any such thing. This lot are not a team and clucas is the biggest example of that. Shit footballer with a huge chip on his shoulder I don't know if you will accept this or keep going forever, but this is my last reply to you on this matter. Etebo had the ball, yes! Clucas approached him because it was obvious that he had been picked for the job and claimed the ball, yes! Etebo didn't want to let him have the ball, yes! Shawcross stepped in and took the ball away from Etebo because he knew what had been decided, yes! Clucas missed the penalty, yes! Etebo certainly increased the pressure on our penalty taker, yes! If the manager has decided who should take the penalty the players should accept it, yes! The manager should decide how to play and make the decisions, yes! Shawcross can’t win, can he? He gets criticized for lack of leadership and then people complain when he does his job. Stokies have made an art form out of whinging.
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