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Post by trickydicky73 on Jan 21, 2019 13:10:41 GMT
Well, I guess the BBC will be walking on eggshells, now. I enjoyed the one impartial show I had seen for years.
Thanks to Labour's belly aching we probably won't see one again. Fucking shameful.
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Post by followyoudown on Jan 21, 2019 13:19:14 GMT
People bang on about how she has kept her seat for decades and continually increases her majority. You could put a monkey in that seat with a red rosette on and it would win...Oh hold on...err......ooops...My bad. I'm sorry,I do not understand your post. Can you please clarify it at all? He's a racist cock who thinks he is funny.
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Post by metalhead on Jan 21, 2019 14:00:07 GMT
Well, I guess the BBC will be walking on eggshells, now. I enjoyed the one impartial show I had seen for years. Thanks to Labour's belly aching we probably won't see one again. Fucking shameful. To be fair, if it's true that Fiona Bruce was cracking jokes before the show had started, all of which were aimed at Abbott, then that's not impartial at all, is it? Yes, I openly admit to being a Labour voter, but I also routinely destroy Fat Abbott on here, so I'm not used to defending her. There's a number of people from the audience suggesting the whole lead-up to the show was about embarrassing her. To be honest, I find that surprising. You don't need to embarrass Abbott.... she fucking embarrasses herself every time she's put in the spotlight. She's comically shit at her job and even worse at trying to blag her way through these situations. Just give her the microphone for about 20 minutes and you'll be in stitches by the end.
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Post by neworleanstokie on Jan 21, 2019 15:22:47 GMT
Just watched the episode on Britbox. What an almighty embarrassment that woman is to the Labor party. And I thought things were bad over here!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 15:31:00 GMT
Is it bollocks.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 15:32:58 GMT
Dear me Diane stop bleating ! No mention of the fact that your performance was abysmal ! linkI actually watched it after reading this thread and I’m not a snowflake either but Bruce should either be sacked or asked to produce her Conservative Party membership card so we all know where we stand. It’s obvious that Dimbleby and Neil are Tories but I don’t think it interferes with their jobs. A complete lack of professionalism. If Bruce had taken the piss out of May, Johnson or Rees-Mogg you'd have a completely different view. Stop being a mard arse.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 15:40:54 GMT
I wonder... Below is copied by someone who was in the audience of Question Time. Makes you think why... New presenter Fiona Bruce came out to address the audience. Hailed for her performance from the week before by fans, and after happily approving of the sycophantic praise that she was being adorned with from some quarters, Bruce proceeded to warm up the crowd. I am aware that this was indeed a tradition with former host David Dimbleby, and audience members were encouraged to participate as vocally and enthusiastically as possible. Nothing wrong with that, an exercise in democracy it would seem. However, it was at this moment in time that the real hostility towards Diane Abbott became evident. Each panelist was given a brief bio; Rory Stewart – a member of the Government, Kirsty Blackman – SNP and a remainer, Isabel Oakershott – ardent brexiteer and Anand Menon – academic expert on the EU. When Fiona Bruce introduced Diane Abbott, Labour’s Shadow Home Secretary, she took it upon herself to instigate a roast. Comments along the lines of ‘let her know what you really think’ and ‘some may think she is in the shadow cabinet because of her very close relationships with Corbyn, nudge nudge, wink wink’ were made. This indeed had the desired effect, and the carefully selected audience guffawed in delight as they had now been given licence to air their bigoted views in public. An audience member in a pinstripe suit commented “I’m going to ask her to do a sum, but she will just claim its discrimination I’m sure.” This level of deliberate antagonism from the BBC is a disgrace, and the institution now desperately needs to be held to account. Now these terms were set, the now legitimised hostility became all too clear. A brief practice session took place, where the most reactionary members of the audience were identified so that they could be returned to during the show. Diane was given the cold shoulder as the other panelists chatted together chummily, and she was spoken over as if she did not exist. During the debate, the Shadow Home Secretary was interrupted by Fiona Bruce more times in three minutes that the others were in twenty. Audience members barracked and abused her, questioned her legitimacy and jeered, empowered by the licence they felt they had been granted by the BBC to do so. Sympathisers such as myself were simply ignored. At one-point Fiona Bruce and Isabel Oakeshott ganged up like playground bullies to ridicule Diane Abbott over Labour’s polling, both making statements later proven to be false. BBC’s Question time is portrayed as a truly democratic spectacle, where the public can engage members of the Government and Opposition, as well as leaders of their field. In reality, it is far from it. It is a farcical stage-managed state propaganda tool in which the BBC use and legitimise institutional racism, misogyny and bigotry to stoke up reactionary sentiment amongst the general population. At the very least the BBC needs to be reformed and we must build a new media. This cannot be done soon enough. So you're saying the Beeb's right wing? The BBC is neither right or left. It’s globalist. Now whilst there’s a heavy left-wing “progressive” bias amongst staff at the organisation (particularly the online new site which has transformed into a progressive propaganda leaflet in recent years) the organisation itself is purely globalist. Globalism is neither left or right, it merely attaches to ideologies that further the agenda. Hence why the right and left accuse globalist organisations of being left or right. It should come as no surprise that there was bias against Abbot, and why Corbyn is taking such a hammering from new organisations. The globalists are just as petrified of a Corbyn government as the populist right are.
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Post by followyoudown on Jan 21, 2019 16:04:35 GMT
I actually watched it after reading this thread and I’m not a snowflake either but Bruce should either be sacked or asked to produce her Conservative Party membership card so we all know where we stand. It’s obvious that Dimbleby and Neil are Tories but I don’t think it interferes with their jobs. A complete lack of professionalism. If Bruce had taken the piss out of May, Johnson or Rees-Mogg you'd have a completely different view. Stop being a mard arse. The thing is the person who started this rumour is a Labour staffer for the anti semite Chris Williamson and has himself being accused of anti semitism, other audience members say it never happened, there is not one cellphone recording or tv recording or sound recording of this to provide proof. I think you can actually file it under never happened myself but apparently Bruce is a Tory stooge because her husband worked at a company that got a £3.4m government contract 18 month after he left...........
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 21, 2019 16:36:06 GMT
If Diane Abbott was white she'd be stacking shelves at Tesco. She's got a first class degree from Cambridge!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 21, 2019 16:40:14 GMT
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jan 21, 2019 16:41:31 GMT
If Diane Abbott was white she'd be stacking shelves at Tesco. She's got a first class degree from Cambridge! She might have, but the beans would still be in the pop aisle.
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Post by wagsastokie on Jan 21, 2019 16:44:32 GMT
If Diane Abbott was white she'd be stacking shelves at Tesco. She's got a first class degree from Cambridge! Well that’s a big difference in this day and age a first from Cambridge will probably get you Waitrose
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 21, 2019 16:46:35 GMT
She's got a first class degree from Cambridge! Well that’s a big difference in this day and age a first from Cambridge will probably get you Waitrose No sadly in this country in 2019 it will get you a place working at Daddy's tax avoiding hedge fund.
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Post by metalhead on Jan 21, 2019 17:06:17 GMT
The problem is sheikh, I do agree that if Fiona Bruce encouraged people to rip the shit out of Abbott, that's bang out of order. Question Time has to be impartial, otherwise there's no point in it. You might as well call it "Roast Labour Time". However, the reason Abbott gets ripped on a daily basis is because she is what they call "the gift that keeps on giving". Yes, she got her sums wrong once about policing. She's also done and said lots of other stupid things, hasn't she? I mean, if it started and ended with her poor arithmetic, it would have been forgotten. It's too easy to blame her skin colour, when she's made a succession of embarrassing gaffes. Diane "I Won't Send My Kids To A Private School" Abbott - www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/nov/05/labour.ukDiane "I'll ignore my constituents to help increase my house price" Abbott - www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/road-and-rail-transport/12023864/Corbyns-former-lover-backs-traffic-scheme-which-could-see-her-house-value-soar-above-1million.htmlDiane "Divide and rule" Abbott - www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-31979342/diane-abbott-on-divide-and-rule-2012-tweet-commentDiane "Let people who stab and attack innocent people get away with it" Abbott - www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/police-fire-back-at-diane-abbott-as-she-criticises-met-s-moped-tactic-a4001976.htmlThey were ones I found in about 5 mins. If I keep digging, I'll find plenty more. She's a gold mine of absolute dog shit mate. I desperately wish she had no position in the Labour party, because I dread to think of what would happen if she became Home Secretary.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 21, 2019 17:23:51 GMT
The problem is sheikh, I do agree that if Fiona Bruce encouraged people to rip the shit out of Abbott, that's bang out of order. Question Time has to be impartial, otherwise there's no point in it. You might as well call it "Roast Labour Time". However, the reason Abbott gets ripped on a daily basis is because she is what they call "the gift that keeps on giving". Yes, she got her sums wrong once about policing. She's also done and said lots of other stupid things, hasn't she? I mean, if it started and ended with her poor arithmetic, it would have been forgotten. It's too easy to blame her skin colour, when she's made a succession of embarrassing gaffes. Diane "I Won't Send My Kids To A Private School" Abbott - www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/nov/05/labour.ukDiane "I'll ignore my constituents to help increase my house price" Abbott - www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/road-and-rail-transport/12023864/Corbyns-former-lover-backs-traffic-scheme-which-could-see-her-house-value-soar-above-1million.htmlDiane "Divide and rule" Abbott - www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-31979342/diane-abbott-on-divide-and-rule-2012-tweet-commentDiane "Let people who stab and attack innocent people get away with it" Abbott - www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/police-fire-back-at-diane-abbott-as-she-criticises-met-s-moped-tactic-a4001976.htmlThey were ones I found in about 5 mins. If I keep digging, I'll find plenty more. She's a gold mine of absolute dog shit mate. I desperately wish she had no position in the Labour party, because I dread to think of what would happen if she became Home Secretary. You think that Telegraph article is a legitimate piece of journalism, mate?! I'd say it's that sort of tripe that suggests she may not be getting a fair rub of the green!
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Post by henry on Jan 21, 2019 17:26:29 GMT
The problem is sheikh, I do agree that if Fiona Bruce encouraged people to rip the shit out of Abbott, that's bang out of order. Question Time has to be impartial, otherwise there's no point in it. You might as well call it "Roast Labour Time". However, the reason Abbott gets ripped on a daily basis is because she is what they call "the gift that keeps on giving". Yes, she got her sums wrong once about policing. She's also done and said lots of other stupid things, hasn't she? I mean, if it started and ended with her poor arithmetic, it would have been forgotten. It's too easy to blame her skin colour, when she's made a succession of embarrassing gaffes. Diane "I Won't Send My Kids To A Private School" Abbott - www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/nov/05/labour.ukDiane "I'll ignore my constituents to help increase my house price" Abbott - www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/road-and-rail-transport/12023864/Corbyns-former-lover-backs-traffic-scheme-which-could-see-her-house-value-soar-above-1million.htmlDiane "Divide and rule" Abbott - www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-31979342/diane-abbott-on-divide-and-rule-2012-tweet-commentDiane "Let people who stab and attack innocent people get away with it" Abbott - www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/police-fire-back-at-diane-abbott-as-she-criticises-met-s-moped-tactic-a4001976.htmlThey were ones I found in about 5 mins. If I keep digging, I'll find plenty more. She's a gold mine of absolute dog shit mate. I desperately wish she had no position in the Labour party, because I dread to think of what would happen if she became Home Secretary. The "divide and rule" should have been enough for this horrible woman to be charged with a hate crime.
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Post by metalhead on Jan 21, 2019 18:24:46 GMT
The problem is sheikh, I do agree that if Fiona Bruce encouraged people to rip the shit out of Abbott, that's bang out of order. Question Time has to be impartial, otherwise there's no point in it. You might as well call it "Roast Labour Time". However, the reason Abbott gets ripped on a daily basis is because she is what they call "the gift that keeps on giving". Yes, she got her sums wrong once about policing. She's also done and said lots of other stupid things, hasn't she? I mean, if it started and ended with her poor arithmetic, it would have been forgotten. It's too easy to blame her skin colour, when she's made a succession of embarrassing gaffes. Diane "I Won't Send My Kids To A Private School" Abbott - www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/nov/05/labour.ukDiane "I'll ignore my constituents to help increase my house price" Abbott - www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/road-and-rail-transport/12023864/Corbyns-former-lover-backs-traffic-scheme-which-could-see-her-house-value-soar-above-1million.htmlDiane "Divide and rule" Abbott - www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-31979342/diane-abbott-on-divide-and-rule-2012-tweet-commentDiane "Let people who stab and attack innocent people get away with it" Abbott - www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/police-fire-back-at-diane-abbott-as-she-criticises-met-s-moped-tactic-a4001976.htmlThey were ones I found in about 5 mins. If I keep digging, I'll find plenty more. She's a gold mine of absolute dog shit mate. I desperately wish she had no position in the Labour party, because I dread to think of what would happen if she became Home Secretary. You think that Telegraph article is a legitimate piece of journalism, mate?! I'd say it's that sort of tripe that suggests she may not be getting a fair rub of the green! Not at all. The opening line about her being "Corbyn's former lover" is unacceptable. The alternative was the Daily Mail. The Guardian won't report on things like this, even though I would say it's legitimately in the public interest.
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Post by metalhead on Jan 21, 2019 18:26:00 GMT
The problem is sheikh, I do agree that if Fiona Bruce encouraged people to rip the shit out of Abbott, that's bang out of order. Question Time has to be impartial, otherwise there's no point in it. You might as well call it "Roast Labour Time". However, the reason Abbott gets ripped on a daily basis is because she is what they call "the gift that keeps on giving". Yes, she got her sums wrong once about policing. She's also done and said lots of other stupid things, hasn't she? I mean, if it started and ended with her poor arithmetic, it would have been forgotten. It's too easy to blame her skin colour, when she's made a succession of embarrassing gaffes. Diane "I Won't Send My Kids To A Private School" Abbott - www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/nov/05/labour.ukDiane "I'll ignore my constituents to help increase my house price" Abbott - www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/road-and-rail-transport/12023864/Corbyns-former-lover-backs-traffic-scheme-which-could-see-her-house-value-soar-above-1million.htmlDiane "Divide and rule" Abbott - www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-31979342/diane-abbott-on-divide-and-rule-2012-tweet-commentDiane "Let people who stab and attack innocent people get away with it" Abbott - www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/police-fire-back-at-diane-abbott-as-she-criticises-met-s-moped-tactic-a4001976.htmlThey were ones I found in about 5 mins. If I keep digging, I'll find plenty more. She's a gold mine of absolute dog shit mate. I desperately wish she had no position in the Labour party, because I dread to think of what would happen if she became Home Secretary. The "divide and rule" should have been enough for this horrible woman to be charged with a hate crime. I'm not sure it's a hate crime though, but it says a lot about her mentality and why people out and out don't like her. Sheikh is suggesting it's because she got her sums wrong. In reality, she's made a series of monumental gaffes, starting with the private school one donkeys years ago. Nobody would have minded her sending her kids to private school, but if you're going to start ripping other MP's for sending their kids to private school, you really shouldn't be doing the same
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Post by felonious on Jan 21, 2019 18:33:02 GMT
If Diane Abbott was white she'd be stacking shelves at Tesco. She's got a first class degree from Cambridge! 2:2 even with Simon Sharma tutoring her
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Post by felonious on Jan 21, 2019 18:36:09 GMT
Lest we forget
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Post by wagsastokie on Jan 21, 2019 20:13:50 GMT
She's got a first class degree from Cambridge! 2:2 even with Simon Sharma tutoring her Well I should take back the Waitrose post With a 2.2 it’s back to Tesco Though reading up on her early life it proves what a complete hypocrite she truly is Bless her another socialist grammar school girl that wants to pull the drawbridge up And prevent others receiveing a grammar school education People don’t dislike her or mock her because she’s black it’s because she’s a total hypocrite
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Jan 21, 2019 20:31:37 GMT
2:2 even with Simon Sharma tutoring her Well I should take back the Waitrose post With a 2.2 it’s back to Tesco Though reading up on her early life it proves what a complete hypocrite she truly is Bless her another socialist grammar school girl that wants to pull the drawbridge up And prevent others receiveing a grammar school education People don’t dislike her or mock her because she’s black it’s because she’s a total hypocrite I would go as far to say that it's people like Abbott that drove people to vote Brexit. Middle class, privileged people, telling white working class people that they are racist and bigoted, and making a political career out of it, whilst at the same time playing the victim card. Hypocrisy of the highest and most sickening order.
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Post by metalhead on Jan 21, 2019 22:12:28 GMT
Lest we forget
Somehow you found a video where I sympathise with Diane Abbott....
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Post by mermaidsal on Jan 21, 2019 22:14:35 GMT
Just to say... I think great that this thread exists, fair comment's important even when it's bollocks... personally I'm thinking of asking for my licence fee back because of the covert and overt racism towards Abbott on QT and in the warm-up from Bruce, BBC news and current affairs get worse and worse, they may as well wear blue all the time... BUT, IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT, please be aware that (partly due to reports received) two posters now have 7 day bans and final permaban warnings for racism on this thread. we're pretty relaxed about drawing lines, the general rule is if it would happen in a non-EDL flat roofed pub then it's probably fine but there are times when lines must be drawn and this is one of them. x
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Post by mermaidsal on Jan 21, 2019 22:15:53 GMT
People bang on about how she has kept her seat for decades and continually increases her majority. You could put a monkey in that seat with a red rosette on and it would win...Oh hold on...err......ooops...My bad. I'm sorry,I do not understand your post. Can you please clarify it at all? 4372 are you serious??? Let me clarify: both the above posters are now banned for racism. Bit clearer for you?
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Post by mermaidsal on Jan 21, 2019 22:20:03 GMT
Well, I guess the BBC will be walking on eggshells, now. I enjoyed the one impartial show I had seen for years. Thanks to Labour's belly aching we probably won't see one again. Fucking shameful. To be fair, if it's true that Fiona Bruce was cracking jokes before the show had started, all of which were aimed at Abbott, then that's not impartial at all, is it? Yes, I openly admit to being a Labour voter, but I also routinely destroy Fat Abbott on here, so I'm not used to defending her. There's a number of people from the audience suggesting the whole lead-up to the show was about embarrassing her. To be honest, I find that surprising. You don't need to embarrass Abbott.... she fucking embarrasses herself every time she's put in the spotlight. She's comically shit at her job and even worse at trying to blag her way through these situations. Just give her the microphone for about 20 minutes and you'll be in stitches by the end. But, if any more clarification's needed, this one's exactly what fair comment's all about (right or wrong - I think she's better than alleged here but it's true she does blag shamefully sometimes, I'm a Labour supporter too, passionately anti-racist but would like to see her shadowing a less high-profile job for a while and someone from the next generation like Rebecca Long Bailey given the Shadow Home Sec role)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 22:34:07 GMT
Sorry Sal, but what happened in QT for it to be construed as racism against Ms. Abbott ? Yes she was interrupted several times but IMO none of it was due to racism or her colour etc. She just wasn't very good at answering any of the questions or putting whatever her point was across to the panel or audience.
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Post by metalhead on Jan 21, 2019 22:34:26 GMT
To be fair, if it's true that Fiona Bruce was cracking jokes before the show had started, all of which were aimed at Abbott, then that's not impartial at all, is it? Yes, I openly admit to being a Labour voter, but I also routinely destroy Fat Abbott on here, so I'm not used to defending her. There's a number of people from the audience suggesting the whole lead-up to the show was about embarrassing her. To be honest, I find that surprising. You don't need to embarrass Abbott.... she fucking embarrasses herself every time she's put in the spotlight. She's comically shit at her job and even worse at trying to blag her way through these situations. Just give her the microphone for about 20 minutes and you'll be in stitches by the end. But, if any more clarification's needed, this one's exactly what fair comment's all about (right or wrong - I think she's better than alleged here but it's true she does blag shamefully sometimes, I'm a Labour supporter too, passionately anti-racist but would like to see her shadowing a less high-profile job for a while and someone from the next generation like Rebecca Long Bailey given the Shadow Home Sec role) I didn't always dislike her. I even think that Andrew Neill interview above is absolute shit. What would Diane do though? Like, what role? She doesn't have a whole lot to offer these days. Her reputation is in the toilet, she's out of touch and she's been around a long time, so if she's not going to change now, she never will.
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Post by thevoid on Jan 21, 2019 22:40:36 GMT
Diane Abbott once criticised the Unionist population of Northern Ireland as an "enclave of white supremacist ideology comparable to white settlers in Zimbabwe" and called for their views to be ignored on the question of Unification adding "Ireland is our struggle — every defeat of the British state is a victory for all of us. A defeat in Northern Ireland would be a defeat indeed."
She deserves all she gets.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 0:12:34 GMT
Nobody should direct abuse at her skin colour or gender for many, many reasons.
If they wanted to attack her with any credibility, They should just go for the contents of her thoughts which are equivalent to 20 year old rotten goats testicles.
Not only is she a moron, she's a subversive traitorous divisive racist.
Speaks volumes that the tories could run an election against Jeremy Diane et al and lose ground and return this absolute weapon with the biggest majority of in that all-up. What a fucking state.
*I know, I know I'll stop the vitriol, it's not fair to rotten goats knackers...
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