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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 12, 2019 17:58:07 GMT
Watching that has emphasised just what a massive job that the manager has. We had an awful, unbalanced squad that got relegated that's somehow been made even worse by Rowett's awful purchases in the summer. Jones's system of a midfield diamond isn't going to suit these players (the defence is too bad) but to be honest, NOTHING suits them because they're so wank. If the manager made the system work at Luton then we have to put all of our faith in his tactical philosophy and accept that we're going to watch some hidings while he sorts this mess out. The rest of the season and the summer should be spent shipping out as much of this God-awful squad as possible to give him room to manoeuvre in the transfer market.
Long-term, I'd keep about six of them and the rest can go. Would genuinely like to see some of the young uns given a bit of a go until we can get some proper players in.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 12, 2019 18:00:18 GMT
I have no faith in anything or anyone connected to stoke city.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 12, 2019 18:01:26 GMT
Watching that has emphasised just what a massive job that the manager has. We had an awful, unbalanced squad that got relegated that's somehow been made even worse by Rowett's awful purchases in the summer. Jones's system of a midfield diamond isn't going to suit these players (the defence is too bad) but to be honest, NOTHING suits them because they're so wank. If the manager made the system work at Luton then we have to put all of our faith in his tactical philosophy and accept that we're going to watch some hidings while he sorts this mess out. The rest of the season and the summer should be spent shipping out as much of this God-awful squad as possible to give him room to manoeuvre in the transfer market. Long-term, I'd keep about six of them and the rest can go. Would genuinely like to see some of the young uns given a bit of a go until we can get some proper players in. What 6? Butland aside, I wouldn't keep a single one of them.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 12, 2019 18:01:27 GMT
The players are a money grubbing piss taking bunch of useless bastards and thats what he has to deal with.
He'll need three years to sort this shit out. Sadly he's working with the same moron recruiters.
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Post by andystokey on Jan 12, 2019 18:01:52 GMT
This window should be all about who we can get rid of. He says he would like to be stronger after January. We can if we are leaner, we need to get rid of as much as possible.
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Post by citynickscfc on Jan 12, 2019 18:02:36 GMT
How long before he falls out with scholes and Cartwright because he knows what we need and won't get it? Just see pulis, Hughes, Rowett..
Bankruptcy looking us straight in the face. Hello FFP
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Post by Parkhall Wanderer on Jan 12, 2019 18:02:39 GMT
I have no faith in anything or anyone connected to stoke city. Well we are all connected to Stoke so we don’t have faith in ourselves??
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 18:03:09 GMT
I have no faith in anything or anyone connected to stoke city. Nobody is begging you to stay with your negative attitude.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 12, 2019 18:04:03 GMT
Watching that has emphasised just what a massive job that the manager has. We had an awful, unbalanced squad that got relegated that's somehow been made even worse by Rowett's awful purchases in the summer. Jones's system of a midfield diamond isn't going to suit these players (the defence is too bad) but to be honest, NOTHING suits them because they're so wank. If the manager made the system work at Luton then we have to put all of our faith in his tactical philosophy and accept that we're going to watch some hidings while he sorts this mess out. The rest of the season and the summer should be spent shipping out as much of this God-awful squad as possible to give him room to manoeuvre in the transfer market. Long-term, I'd keep about six of them and the rest can go. Would genuinely like to see some of the young uns given a bit of a go until we can get some proper players in. But how do we "ship them out"? I'm sure we'd have loved to have shipped out Imbula, Wimmer, N'Diaye etc. But we can't because they are on massive wages. Berahino earns £80k a week, nobody is interested in our (very expensive) tat.
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Post by wuzza on Jan 12, 2019 18:04:09 GMT
There is very little to build on or around Butland will disappear soon as will Allen and Etabo and we will be left with a collection of has beens and never will be’s that we couldn’t give away with Green Shield Stamps (one for the teenagers).
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 12, 2019 18:04:47 GMT
Watching that has emphasised just what a massive job that the manager has. We had an awful, unbalanced squad that got relegated that's somehow been made even worse by Rowett's awful purchases in the summer. Jones's system of a midfield diamond isn't going to suit these players (the defence is too bad) but to be honest, NOTHING suits them because they're so wank. If the manager made the system work at Luton then we have to put all of our faith in his tactical philosophy and accept that we're going to watch some hidings while he sorts this mess out. The rest of the season and the summer should be spent shipping out as much of this God-awful squad as possible to give him room to manoeuvre in the transfer market. Long-term, I'd keep about six of them and the rest can go. Would genuinely like to see some of the young uns given a bit of a go until we can get some proper players in. What 6? Butland aside, I wouldn't keep a single one of them. To be honest i was just pulling a figure out of the air! Butland I think we should sell, purely to get the money needed for the rebuild, same with Allen.
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Post by Parkhall Wanderer on Jan 12, 2019 18:04:56 GMT
I have no faith in anything or anyone connected to stoke city. Nobody is begging you to stay with your negative attitude. Think he’s after a role in the remake of Kelly’s Heroes
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 18:05:25 GMT
No we know why we were not going to attract a named manager like Moyes. They would run a mile from this sqaud!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 12, 2019 18:05:50 GMT
I have no faith in anything or anyone connected to stoke city. Nobody is begging you to stay with your negative attitude. Keep clapping bud. You'll get your rewards I'm sure.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 12, 2019 18:06:25 GMT
Watching that has emphasised just what a massive job that the manager has. We had an awful, unbalanced squad that got relegated that's somehow been made even worse by Rowett's awful purchases in the summer. Jones's system of a midfield diamond isn't going to suit these players (the defence is too bad) but to be honest, NOTHING suits them because they're so wank. If the manager made the system work at Luton then we have to put all of our faith in his tactical philosophy and accept that we're going to watch some hidings while he sorts this mess out. The rest of the season and the summer should be spent shipping out as much of this God-awful squad as possible to give him room to manoeuvre in the transfer market. Long-term, I'd keep about six of them and the rest can go. Would genuinely like to see some of the young uns given a bit of a go until we can get some proper players in. But how do we "ship them out"? I'm sure we'd have loved to have shipped out Imbula, Wimmer, N'Diaye etc. But we can't because they are on massive wages. Berahino earns £80k a week, nobody is interested in our (very expensive) tat. There's nothing wrong with the process.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jan 12, 2019 18:07:00 GMT
Jones has a Humongous job on his hands.....this may take him two, maybe THREE windows to get sorted!!!
Majority of these players arent even championship standard, I've never seen a team slow play down to almost a standstill as Stoke!!!
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 12, 2019 18:08:36 GMT
Watching that has emphasised just what a massive job that the manager has. We had an awful, unbalanced squad that got relegated that's somehow been made even worse by Rowett's awful purchases in the summer. Jones's system of a midfield diamond isn't going to suit these players (the defence is too bad) but to be honest, NOTHING suits them because they're so wank. If the manager made the system work at Luton then we have to put all of our faith in his tactical philosophy and accept that we're going to watch some hidings while he sorts this mess out. The rest of the season and the summer should be spent shipping out as much of this God-awful squad as possible to give him room to manoeuvre in the transfer market. Long-term, I'd keep about six of them and the rest can go. Would genuinely like to see some of the young uns given a bit of a go until we can get some proper players in. But how do we "ship them out"? I'm sure we'd have loved to have shipped out Imbula, Wimmer, N'Diaye etc. But we can't because they are on massive wages. Berahino earns £80k a week, nobody is interested in our (very expensive) tat. We'll have to sell the likes of Butland and Allen, both of whom should attract decent fees. Pieters will attract a bit of interest I'd have thought. Might be able to give Adam and Fletcher away and pay up some of the remaining money on their contracts. It's a huge job he's taken on.
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Post by lee1982 on Jan 12, 2019 18:09:06 GMT
No we know why we were not going to attract a named manager like Moyes. They would run a mile from this sqaud! Id rather not have a named manager like Moyes. At some point or other you have to get off the manager merry go round and think outside the box
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Post by retired1 on Jan 12, 2019 18:14:18 GMT
I have no faith in anything or anyone connected to stoke city. Well the transfer window is still open so you can move to another club. might as well do it now rather than wait for the summer.
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Post by bamx19 on Jan 12, 2019 18:16:43 GMT
The players are a money grubbing piss taking bunch of useless bastards and thats what he has to deal with. He'll need three years to sort this shit out. Sadly he's working with the same moron recruiters. You hit the nail on the head. I hope that he can get rid of anyone that has had anything to do with recruiting players.
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 12, 2019 18:16:47 GMT
The defending was awful , but Ryan’s defending for the third goal was dog n duck standard
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Post by liathroid on Jan 12, 2019 18:19:12 GMT
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Post by liathroid on Jan 12, 2019 18:24:00 GMT
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Post by chad on Jan 12, 2019 18:43:31 GMT
Thought he might have been a bit more critical of what was by any standard a fucking awful performanc
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Post by starkiller on Jan 12, 2019 18:56:16 GMT
Thought he might have been a bit more critical of what was by any standard a fucking awful performanc No need for this in public. They will be shown the door.
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Post by stokeykez on Jan 12, 2019 19:03:44 GMT
Thought he might have been a bit more critical of what was by any standard a fucking awful performanc No need for this in public. They will be shown the door. Think this where him and rowett will be poles apart in man management. Rowett would have thrown them all under the bus. Jones will be a little bit more tactful
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Jan 12, 2019 19:04:13 GMT
I think he will in a few weeks time. I'm a bit worried, he has that kind of rabbit in the headlights 'god things are worse here than I thought!' look that Rowett had last summer when the players returned for pre season training. I just hope we haven't got another manager who's seen the names in the squad and thought all we need is a new approach, without being fully aware of just how far the likes of Shawcross are from the players they once were.
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 12, 2019 19:06:46 GMT
What 6? Butland aside, I wouldn't keep a single one of them. To be honest i was just pulling a figure out of the air! Butland I think we should sell, purely to get the money needed for the rebuild, same with Allen. Who the hell in their right mind would buy Allen?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 12, 2019 19:08:09 GMT
To be honest i was just pulling a figure out of the air! Butland I think we should sell, purely to get the money needed for the rebuild, same with Allen. Who the hell in their right mind would buy Allen? Somebody like Bournemouth.
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 12, 2019 19:12:00 GMT
Who the hell in their right mind would buy Allen? Somebody like Bournemouth. Why?...are they thinking of taking a year out of the Prem???
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