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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 12, 2019 19:48:01 GMT
File alongside Allen and clucas.
Hes crap.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 12, 2019 19:48:44 GMT
File alongside Allen and clucas. Hes crap. Not impressed then David?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 19:50:04 GMT
File alongside Allen and clucas. Hes crap. Mental.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 12, 2019 19:51:40 GMT
File alongside Allen and clucas. Hes crap. Not impressed then David? Hes rubbish. Totally lacking in strength, mobility and pretty much any other attribute a midfielder needs in the modern game. Its depressing how shit each and every one of our players are, butland excluded.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 12, 2019 19:52:36 GMT
Not impressed then David? Hes rubbish. Totally lacking in strength, mobility and pretty much any other attribute a midfielder needs in the modern game. Its depressing how shit each and every one of our players are, butland excluded. He’s certainly gone backwards since joining us that’s for sure
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 19:54:39 GMT
Not impressed then David? Hes rubbish. Totally lacking in strength, mobility and pretty much any other attribute a midfielder needs in the modern game. Its depressing how shit each and every one of our players are, butland excluded. I wouldn't exclude Butland either. A goalkeeper who can't kick a football properly or command his six yard box.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 19:55:05 GMT
Whatever he is, he's not suited to the base of a diamond. Clucas isn't suited to the left, Allen isn't suited to the right. I thought we had all the tools ready for Jones to pick up and run with? Ince will be fine at the tip, as will Bojan. Then there is the Etebo conundrum. Doesn't do much defending, is inconsistent in the tackle, doesn't really make a killer pass, has few assists to his name and isn't really a goalscorer.
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Post by DentySCFC on Jan 12, 2019 19:56:19 GMT
I thought he was a breath of fresh air when he first joined and was excellent at Sheffield Wednesday.
However, as the games have gone by and maybe due to the general shitness of the side, his performances have just gone downhill.
He’s ok at passing the ball and holding position in front of the defence but off the ball, he offers absolutely nothing. I’ve been every game this season and I genuinely can’t recall a single tackle he’s put in. He’s too lightweight and we need an athletic, big holding midfielder if Jones wants to implement 4-1-2-1-2.
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Post by swampySCFC on Jan 12, 2019 19:56:27 GMT
Rowett’s signings have been atrocious and we have so much dead wood sucking money out of the club there appears no end to it.
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Post by stokeykez on Jan 12, 2019 20:19:38 GMT
Interesting comment from their forum about Woods “Although a good player,far too often he slowed the play down unnecessarily” Didn't that used to be the comment about nzonzi
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Post by stuammo on Jan 12, 2019 20:22:44 GMT
Whatever he is, he's not suited to the base of a diamond. Clucas isn't suited to the left, Allen isn't suited to the right. I thought we had all the tools ready for Jones to pick up and run with? Ince will be fine at the tip, as will Bojan. Then there is the Etebo conundrum. Doesn't do much defending, is inconsistent in the tackle, doesn't really make a killer pass, has few assists to his name and isn't really a goalscorer. Like every other midfielder we’ve got then
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 20:22:47 GMT
Anyone else want to punch him in the face every time he attempts to dribble the ball out of our own box instead of clearing the ball...seriously what on Earth is that about? How could it possibly be a good idea
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 20:24:22 GMT
Anyone else want to punch him in the face every time he attempts to dribble the ball out of our own box instead of clearing the ball...seriously what on Earth is that about? How could it possibly be a good idea To be fair, it worked every time today.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 20:25:22 GMT
Anyone else want to punch him in the face every time he attempts to dribble the ball out of our own box instead of clearing the ball...seriously what on Earth is that about? How could it possibly be a good idea To be fair, it worked every time today. He was lucky. There were a few times when he nearly ballsed it up like normal.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 12, 2019 20:27:14 GMT
Whatever he is, he's not suited to the base of a diamond. Clucas isn't suited to the left, Allen isn't suited to the right. So you're saying we brought in a manager who plays a system that most of the players can't play in? Most people on here thought the diamond system he plays was ideally suited to our players only the other day.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 20:29:05 GMT
To be fair, it worked every time today. He was lucky. There were a few times when he nearly ballsed it up like normal. So it worked then?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 20:30:56 GMT
Whatever he is, he's not suited to the base of a diamond. Clucas isn't suited to the left, Allen isn't suited to the right. So you're saying we brought in a manager who plays a system that most of the players can't play in? Most people on here thought the diamond system was suited to our players only the other day. To be honest it is mostly. We're a quick centre half and a centre mid who can dribble away from having and excellent set up for this level. Then again, one loss tends to send Stoke fans from 'we're title contenders' to 'sell the entire squad'
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 20:33:01 GMT
He was lucky. There were a few times when he nearly ballsed it up like normal. So it worked then? It didn’t lead to a goal this time but it has done and it’s a stupid idea when we’re constantly under attack and the ball js not cleared properly. Yes he didn’t lose the ball in the box this time but he dribbles out makes a terrible pass upfield and the attack builds again when no-one has had chance to get back in position. He does this week after week.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 20:35:12 GMT
It didn’t lead to a goal this time but it has done and it’s a stupid idea when we’re constantly under attack and the ball js not cleared properly. Yes he didn’t lose the ball in the box this time but he dribbles out makes a terrible pass upfield and the attack builds again when no-one has had chance to get back in position. He does this week after week. If we're constantly under attack, why randomly hoof it into the stand for the opposition to get it straight back? Surely trying to pass out is better? I don't think his passing is terrible tbh.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jan 12, 2019 20:35:53 GMT
It didn’t lead to a goal this time but it has done and it’s a stupid idea when we’re constantly under attack and the ball js not cleared properly. Yes he didn’t lose the ball in the box this time but he dribbles out makes a terrible pass upfield and the attack builds again when no-one has had chance to get back in position. He does this week after week. Wasn’t Woods the one that gave the ball away for their second goal?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 20:36:18 GMT
Whatever he is, he's not suited to the base of a diamond. Clucas isn't suited to the left, Allen isn't suited to the right. So you're saying we brought in a manager who plays a system that most of the players can't play in? Most people on here thought the diamond system he plays was ideally suited to our players only the other day. ‘Most people’ - must have missed that canvas. Was it a big majority? For the record, I have serious reservations about a four-man midfield full stop. The diamond could work, but there are serious shortcomings in our squad atm.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 20:36:26 GMT
It didn’t lead to a goal this time but it has done and it’s a stupid idea when we’re constantly under attack and the ball js not cleared properly. Yes he didn’t lose the ball in the box this time but he dribbles out makes a terrible pass upfield and the attack builds again when no-one has had chance to get back in position. He does this week after week. If we're constantly under attack, why randomly hoof it into the stand for the opposition to get it straight back? Surely trying to pass out is better? I don't think his passing is terrible tbh. Because we never get chance to push out
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Post by Macko on Jan 12, 2019 20:36:27 GMT
Fair few OTT comments on here, the players have had ONE training session with the new boss. I'm certain a major factor why Rowett was sacked was that he took several players backwards in terms of capability and skill. He certainly did not improve anyone.
We can afford financially the luxury of letting most players that should be better than they currently are, namely Allen, Bera, Clucas, Afobe and Woods the rest of the season to see if Jones can make them play.
If they cannot, get rid at the end of the season and let Jones sign the players that he thinks can play aggressive attacking football in this league.
If we thought it was shit watching a Rowett team play for the last five months, imagine having to train with the twat nearly every day? The players were fucked by Rowett and his nonsense, they should be allowed the chance to show they can work with a manager who actually has a clue what he is doing.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 12, 2019 20:47:17 GMT
So you're saying we brought in a manager who plays a system that most of the players can't play in? Most people on here thought the diamond system he plays was ideally suited to our players only the other day. ‘Most people’ - must have missed that canvas. Was it a big majority? Maybe we'll have have to have a referendum. If you spent a reasonable amount of time on here you'd have no problem gauging opinion like I have.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 12, 2019 21:01:08 GMT
He won't last with Jones. Jones wants athleticism. Woods just does not have that.
Frankly he's weak as piss, like berahino, and all our defenders.
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Post by chuckrocky on Jan 12, 2019 21:40:27 GMT
We signed the wrong player from them. Sawyers looks like twice the player Woods is.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 12, 2019 21:51:48 GMT
We signed the wrong player from them. Sawyers looks like twice the player Woods is. Wasn't that the reason they were happy letting Woods go?
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Post by harrysburrow on Jan 12, 2019 22:31:16 GMT
Really - what is all this shit about highly payed footballers not being able to adapt to a different system? We're asking midfielders to play in a different part of the middle of the pitch, not take up fucking curling? And the lacking in confidence thing too - fuck off.
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Post by rosso on Jan 13, 2019 9:58:29 GMT
Every player we sign go backwards
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 13, 2019 10:01:20 GMT
Feared by the Vale Loved by the Stoke Ryan Woods Ryan Woods
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