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Post by felonious on Jan 9, 2019 7:52:38 GMT
First episode last night on politicians of the 20th century Churchill, Roosevelt, Thatcher and Mandela. Vote open until 4 this afternoon.
Surely Maggie by a country mile? Smashed the glass ceiling and the class ceiling not to mention those bloody luddite unions
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Jan 9, 2019 13:57:53 GMT
Post by mickmillslovechild on Jan 9, 2019 13:57:53 GMT
Did she smash any ceilings, or just sell them off to Private companies and let everyone else run them into the ground before they were then smashed?
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Jan 9, 2019 15:33:00 GMT
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Post by shangamuzo on Jan 9, 2019 15:33:00 GMT
First episode last night on politicians of the 20th century Churchill, Roosevelt, Thatcher and Mandela. Vote open until 4 this afternoon.
Surely Maggie by a country mile? Smashed the glass ceiling and the class ceiling not to mention those bloody luddite unions Churchill for his part in beating the Nazis most of all.
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Jan 9, 2019 18:50:51 GMT
Post by felonious on Jan 9, 2019 18:50:51 GMT
First episode last night on politicians of the 20th century Churchill, Roosevelt, Thatcher and Mandela. Vote open until 4 this afternoon.
Surely Maggie by a country mile? Smashed the glass ceiling and the class ceiling not to mention those bloody luddite unions Churchill for his part in beating the Nazis most of all. But Maggie beat the Argies and singlehandedly tore down the iron curtain
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Jan 9, 2019 18:54:53 GMT
Post by felonious on Jan 9, 2019 18:54:53 GMT
Explorers tonight.
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Jan 16, 2019 13:06:42 GMT
Post by felonious on Jan 16, 2019 13:06:42 GMT
Really interesting series although the icons featured probably need at least an hour each. Entertainers last night so it featured Charlie Chaplin, Billie Holiday, Marilyn Monroe and David Bowie.
Enlightening about Chaplin and Monroe I hadn't realised the control they exerted over their output through taking on the industry. I knew most of the Billie Holiday story and of course loved every moment of the Bowie years.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 22:02:41 GMT
Alan Turing has just been voted the overall winner
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Post by felonious on Feb 6, 2019 7:45:40 GMT
Alan Turing has just been voted the overall winner It's an extraordinary story and a fitting tribute to a man treated so badly by the state. I'm just so thankful it didn't go to Mandela, it's an absolute joke that he was voted ahead of Churchill.
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Feb 6, 2019 8:38:32 GMT
Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 8:38:32 GMT
Alan Turing has just been voted the overall winner It's an extraordinary story and a fitting tribute to a man treated so badly by the state. I'm just so thankful it didn't go to Mandela, it's an absolute joke that he was voted ahead of Churchill. I agree about Mandela, I've never quite bought the adulation for him. My top three were Churchill, King, and Turing. I didn't really get Picasso being in the final either.
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Feb 6, 2019 8:45:54 GMT
Post by felonious on Feb 6, 2019 8:45:54 GMT
It's an extraordinary story and a fitting tribute to a man treated so badly by the state. I'm just so thankful it didn't go to Mandela, it's an absolute joke that he was voted ahead of Churchill. I agree about Mandela, I've never quite bought the adulation for him. My top three were Churchill, King, and Turing. I didn't really get Picasso being in the final either. Don't know about you but it would have been interesting to have a contest between the 7 presenters. I thought that Chris Packham and Claire Balding were by far the best two.
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 6, 2019 9:00:36 GMT
Alan Turing has just been voted the overall winner Would he of been if he hadn’t suited the current agendas In my eyes it should of gone to Alexander Fleming who through his work with antibiotics saved and inhanced humanity Far more than all the others put together But hey that wouldn’t suit agendas at all
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 9:00:41 GMT
I agree about Mandela, I've never quite bought the adulation for him. My top three were Churchill, King, and Turing. I didn't really get Picasso being in the final either. Don't know about you but it would have been interesting to have a contest between the 7 presenters. I thought that Chris Packham and Claire Balding were by far the best two. I thought they both presented their choices very well. I though Trevor McDonut made his usual "wooden" performance - some of his documentaries have interesting subjects but we don't watch them due to his awful presentation style. Kathleen Turner didn't really convince me either. Packham and Balding were by far the best IMO.
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Feb 6, 2019 9:02:22 GMT
Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 9:02:22 GMT
Alan Turing has just been voted the overall winner Would he of been if he hadn’t suited the current agendas In my eyes it should of gone to Alexander Fleming who through his work with antibiotics saved and inhanced humanity Far more than all the others put together But hey that wouldn’t suit agendas at all Yeah maybe, I was just commenting on the finalists. I see there's loads of complaints now that it was a "men only" final.
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Feb 6, 2019 9:05:36 GMT
Post by felonious on Feb 6, 2019 9:05:36 GMT
Don't know about you but it would have been interesting to have a contest between the 7 presenters. I thought that Chris Packham and Claire Balding were by far the best two. I thought they both presented their choices very well. I though Trevor McDonut made his usual "wooden" performance - some of his documentaries have interesting subjects but we don't watch them due to his awful presentation style. Kathleen Turner didn't really convince me either. Packham and Balding were by far the best IMO. Gutted that Nicky Campbell didn't present his idol Bowie he's have made a much better job.
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Post by felonious on Feb 6, 2019 9:06:52 GMT
Alan Turing has just been voted the overall winner Would he of been if he hadn’t suited the current agendas In my eyes it should of gone to Alexander Fleming who through his work with antibiotics saved and inhanced humanity Far more than all the others put together But hey that wouldn’t suit agendas at all .....not forgetting Marie Curie who triumphed in a man's world.
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Post by xchpotter on Feb 6, 2019 9:40:16 GMT
I’m absolutely astonished it didn’t go to Mandela or King.....needs a second people’s vote to put it right.😉
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Feb 6, 2019 10:52:39 GMT
Alan Turing has just been voted the overall winner Would he of been if he hadn’t suited the current agendas In my eyes it should of gone to Alexander Fleming who through his work with antibiotics saved and inhanced humanity Far more than all the others put together But hey that wouldn’t suit agendas at all Alexander Fleming did little to make penicillin a mass produced drug, so much so he basically abandoned it in the 30s. He tried to use it as a topical anti-septic rather than an oral drug. The true kings of Penicllin were Florey and Chain, who managed to purify it, mass produce it and distribute it in a space of 2 and a half years. If you're looking for someone who has saved more lives than anyone else put together you either need a Edwin Jenner (not 20th Century) or Maurice Hilleman. Hilleman is responsible for 8 vaccines against preventable diseases that are still used to this day, and some 30-40 across his entire career. He is also responsible for discovering common colds are caused by thousands of different adenoviruses. But yeah....agendas....
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Feb 6, 2019 11:46:40 GMT
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 6, 2019 11:46:40 GMT
Would he of been if he hadn’t suited the current agendas In my eyes it should of gone to Alexander Fleming who through his work with antibiotics saved and inhanced humanity Far more than all the others put together But hey that wouldn’t suit agendas at all Alexander Fleming did little to make penicillin a mass produced drug, so much so he basically abandoned it in the 30s. He tried to use it as a topical anti-septic rather than an oral drug. The true kings of Penicllin were Florey and Chain, who managed to purify it, mass produce it and distribute it in a space of 2 and a half years. If you're looking for someone who has saved more lives than anyone else put together you either need a Edwin Jenner (not 20th Century) or Maurice Hilleman. Hilleman is responsible for 8 vaccines against preventable diseases that are still used to this day, and some 30-40 across his entire career. He is also responsible for discovering common colds are caused by thousands of different adenoviruses. But yeah....agendas.... Thank you for that information I found t very interesting and it is always good to learn something every day But I will still stand by the fact they gave it to someone who ticked the right boxes
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Feb 6, 2019 13:36:37 GMT
Post by lowlands on Feb 6, 2019 13:36:37 GMT
Paul Dyson, definitely Paul Dyson for inventing the vacuum cleaner
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Feb 6, 2019 13:58:24 GMT
Post by harryburrows on Feb 6, 2019 13:58:24 GMT
Paul Dyson, definitely Paul Dyson for inventing the vacuum cleaner I think you'll find it was J Edgar Hoover
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Feb 6, 2019 19:16:17 GMT
Post by felonious on Feb 6, 2019 19:16:17 GMT
Alexander Fleming did little to make penicillin a mass produced drug, so much so he basically abandoned it in the 30s. He tried to use it as a topical anti-septic rather than an oral drug. The true kings of Penicllin were Florey and Chain, who managed to purify it, mass produce it and distribute it in a space of 2 and a half years. If you're looking for someone who has saved more lives than anyone else put together you either need a Edwin Jenner (not 20th Century) or Maurice Hilleman. Hilleman is responsible for 8 vaccines against preventable diseases that are still used to this day, and some 30-40 across his entire career. He is also responsible for discovering common colds are caused by thousands of different adenoviruses. But yeah....agendas.... Thank you for that information I found t very interesting and it is always good to learn something every day But I will still stand by the fact they gave it to someone who ticked the right boxes I think the man would have been world famous apart from two little matters. Firstly the official secrets act which buried his achievements for decades and secondly the fact that he had the misfortune to be born in homophobic times. The fact is that the man invented a computer to crack a code which gave the allies an enormous advantage and shortened WW2. As Chris Packham rightly alluded to, the father of modern computing.
There in the thick of the competition rightly on merit.
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Post by felonious on Feb 6, 2019 19:16:52 GMT
Paul Dyson, definitely Paul Dyson for inventing the vacuum cleaner I think you'll find it was J Edgar Hoover Dam, you know your stuff Harry.
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Feb 6, 2019 19:21:30 GMT
Post by cheeesfreeex on Feb 6, 2019 19:21:30 GMT
Thank you for that information I found t very interesting and it is always good to learn something every day But I will still stand by the fact they gave it to someone who ticked the right boxes I think the man would have been world famous apart from two little matters. Firstly the official secrets act which buried his achievements for decades and secondly the fact that he had the misfortune to be born in homophobic times. The fact is that the man invented a computer to crack a code which gave the allies an enormous advantage and shortened WW2. As Chris Packham rightly alluded to, the father of modern computing.
There in the thick of the competition rightly on merit.
What about Babbage! The 'Difference Engine'?
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Feb 6, 2019 19:29:30 GMT
Post by felonious on Feb 6, 2019 19:29:30 GMT
I think the man would have been world famous apart from two little matters. Firstly the official secrets act which buried his achievements for decades and secondly the fact that he had the misfortune to be born in homophobic times. The fact is that the man invented a computer to crack a code which gave the allies an enormous advantage and shortened WW2. As Chris Packham rightly alluded to, the father of modern computing.
There in the thick of the competition rightly on merit.
What about Babbage! The 'Difference Engine'? It's interesting Cheesy I suppose you could go back further than Babbage if you wanted to..... I was just quoting Chris Packham
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Feb 6, 2019 20:23:33 GMT
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 6, 2019 20:23:33 GMT
I think the man would have been world famous apart from two little matters. Firstly the official secrets act which buried his achievements for decades and secondly the fact that he had the misfortune to be born in homophobic times. The fact is that the man invented a computer to crack a code which gave the allies an enormous advantage and shortened WW2. As Chris Packham rightly alluded to, the father of modern computing.
There in the thick of the competition rightly on merit.
What about Babbage! The 'Difference Engine'? Doesn’t tick the right boxes
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