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Post by peekay67 on Dec 9, 2018 10:22:00 GMT
We really need to find a permanent spot for this guy. He's wasted out wide left, yet is probably our most consistent player this season so far.
He could maybe have a couple more goals but often played out of position, and when up front not having the correct balls played to him.
I was one of his biggest critics but have seen a player in there. We need to utilise the midfield properly. We have seen signs, but that's all, signs we can adapt.
We can, and definitely should make the top six. But boy it's been hard work.
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Dec 9, 2018 10:32:10 GMT
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Post by milky on Dec 9, 2018 10:32:10 GMT
We really need to find a permanent spot for this guy. He's wasted out wide left, yet is probably our most consistent player this season so far. He could maybe have a couple more goals but often played out of position, and when up front not having the correct balls played to him. I was one of his biggest critics but have seen a player in there. We need to utilise the midfield properly. We have seen signs, but that's all, signs we can adapt. We can, and definitely should make the top six. But boy it's been hard work. It certainly doesnt help when the manager refuses to give him more than 2 or 3 games in a row. Expect him to be benched for the Villa game and replaced by McClean.
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Post by ravey123 on Dec 9, 2018 10:34:27 GMT
We really need to find a permanent spot for this guy. He's wasted out wide left, yet is probably our most consistent player this season so far. He could maybe have a couple more goals but often played out of position, and when up front not having the correct balls played to him. I was one of his biggest critics but have seen a player in there. We need to utilise the midfield properly. We have seen signs, but that's all, signs we can adapt. We can, and definitely should make the top six. But boy it's been hard work. He should be playing as the main striker - so far this season when given the chance he's looked far better than Afobe uptop
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Dec 9, 2018 12:37:37 GMT
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 9, 2018 12:37:37 GMT
We really need to find a permanent spot for this guy. He's wasted out wide left, yet is probably our most consistent player this season so far. He could maybe have a couple more goals but often played out of position, and when up front not having the correct balls played to him. I was one of his biggest critics but have seen a player in there. We need to utilise the midfield properly. We have seen signs, but that's all, signs we can adapt. We can, and definitely should make the top six. But boy it's been hard work. He should be playing as the main striker - so far this season when given the chance he's looked far better than Afobe uptop Possibly but his finishing has been very poor.
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Dec 9, 2018 12:44:27 GMT
Post by ravey123 on Dec 9, 2018 12:44:27 GMT
He should be playing as the main striker - so far this season when given the chance he's looked far better than Afobe uptop Possibly but his finishing has been very poor. Currently I have far more faith in Berahino getting goals uptop than Afobe.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 9, 2018 12:47:27 GMT
Possibly but his finishing has been very poor. Currently I have far more faith in Berahino getting goals uptop than Afobe. Not for me, Afobe is seriously underperforming but I think he’s far better at taking his chances than Berahino. Maybe it’s a confidence thing but for me Berahino looks a long way off a 15-20 goal a season striker.
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Dec 11, 2018 21:20:39 GMT
Post by mrcholmondleywarner on Dec 11, 2018 21:20:39 GMT
Got to say I'm pleasantly surprised, impressed, pleased or whatever else how he seems to have applied himself the first half of this season.
Not yet hit the heights of that great season he had the Baggies but he's definitely much improved.
Just looking forward to the hat-trick against Boro....
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Dec 11, 2018 21:53:48 GMT
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Dec 11, 2018 21:53:48 GMT
In the system our manager plays he is the only one who can play up top on his own. He is far better at holding the ball up, beating a man and bringing out other players into the game. This season I think he has shown he is working hard and is willing to make up for last mistakes. If he had a good run up front I'm sure the goals would come but he can't do it on the bloody wing Gary.
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Post by lordb on Dec 11, 2018 22:06:07 GMT
Thought his best game was QPR where he played down the middle,superb movement constantly had their backline on their toes.
Stoke have looked best, attacking wise, earlier in the season when Berahino,Afobe,Ince and Bojan all played (e.g.Forest cup game).
However our best performance as a team was v Derby when we had Clucas left,Ince right,Woods,Allen and Etebo with just Berahino up top. I'd like to see that line up again (but with Bruno in instead of Ryan).
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Dec 11, 2018 22:07:20 GMT
Post by tcdobinghoff on Dec 11, 2018 22:07:20 GMT
Strikers need confidence and conviction to make the most of chances. If there is one player in our team I would love to get a few goals over the next few games, lucky or otherwise, it is Berahino. It would be the best thing to happen for our chances if he can get his shooting sharpness back. Like others I have been pleased with his attitude and work so far this season - but goals are what we need most of all.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 22:17:31 GMT
I say it every time these threads pop up so you're probably well bored of it Yeah he wrks hard an he has a footballing brain, good touch, and suprisingly strong for his size. But He needs to start scoring some fucking goals and he hasn't and he won't. He's a serial bottler and he needs a year in the torture pit for it, he's been a complete waste of everybody's time, one cup goal and a 20cm punt over the line don't change that. Even Diouf who most of you lot detest knows where the back of the net is sometimes.
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Dec 11, 2018 22:20:05 GMT
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Post by lordb on Dec 11, 2018 22:20:05 GMT
I say it every time these threads pop up so you're probably well bored of it Yeah he wrks hard an he has a footballing brain, good touch, and suprisingly strong for his size. But He needs to start scoring some fucking goals and he hasn't and he won't. He's a serial bottler and he needs a year in the torture pit for it, he's been a complete waste of everybody's time, one cup goal and a 20cm punt over the line don't change that. Even Diouf who most of you lot detest knows where the back of the net is sometimes. He has scored five goai this season, that's not enough for sure however he has at least 'started scoring'. He should be aiming for a total of 15, that's acheivable.
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Dec 11, 2018 23:12:38 GMT
Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 23:12:38 GMT
I say it every time these threads pop up so you're probably well bored of it Yeah he wrks hard an he has a footballing brain, good touch, and suprisingly strong for his size. But He needs to start scoring some fucking goals and he hasn't and he won't. He's a serial bottler and he needs a year in the torture pit for it, he's been a complete waste of everybody's time, one cup goal and a 20cm punt over the line don't change that. Even Diouf who most of you lot detest knows where the back of the net is sometimes. He has scored five goai this season, that's not enough for sure however he has at least 'started scoring'. He should be aiming for a total of 15, that's acheivable. But we can agree on the torture pit yeah? He'd be infinitely more effective played with or behind a striker. I remember the goalline scramble and a checkatrade Sidibe-style back header, what were the other 3?
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Dec 11, 2018 23:28:11 GMT
Post by cooper67 on Dec 11, 2018 23:28:11 GMT
He has scored five goai this season, that's not enough for sure however he has at least 'started scoring'. He should be aiming for a total of 15, that's acheivable. But we can agree on the torture pit yeah? He'd be infinitely more effective played with or behind a striker. I remember the goalline scramble and a checkatrade Sidibe-style back header, what were the other 3? 1 in the Checkatrade. 2 in the cup against Huddersfield and Notts Forest. And 2 in the League-Blackburn and QPR.
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Dec 11, 2018 23:41:47 GMT
Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 23:41:47 GMT
But we can agree on the torture pit yeah? He'd be infinitely more effective played with or behind a striker. I remember the goalline scramble and a checkatrade Sidibe-style back header, what were the other 3? 1 in the Checkatrade. 2 in the cup against Huddersfield and Notts Forest. And 2 in the League-Blackburn and QPR. I'm going fucking senile. I was at most of those games and remember none... I vaguely remember one going in off someone's arse. Point still stands he needs to score more, and hit the target more, but i'll grudgingly retract some of the torture pit.*
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Dec 12, 2018 0:45:31 GMT
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 12, 2018 0:45:31 GMT
We really need to find a permanent spot for this guy. He's wasted out wide left, yet is probably our most consistent player this season so far. He could maybe have a couple more goals but often played out of position, and when up front not having the correct balls played to him. I was one of his biggest critics but have seen a player in there. We need to utilise the midfield properly. We have seen signs, but that's all, signs we can adapt. We can, and definitely should make the top six. But boy it's been hard work. Add him to the list of continual fuck ups under three successive managers who can't get him into a correct formation, mind you with talent half this league would die for... Ince, Afobe, Bera, Bojan, Allen, Clucas... It's laughable these folks don't rotate into a league killing two half onslaught each week... Yet here we fucking are gents.
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Dec 12, 2018 6:55:31 GMT
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Post by lordb on Dec 12, 2018 6:55:31 GMT
He has scored five goai this season, that's not enough for sure however he has at least 'started scoring'. He should be aiming for a total of 15, that's acheivable. But we can agree on the torture pit yeah? He'd be infinitely more effective played with or behind a striker. I remember the goalline scramble and a checkatrade Sidibe-style back header, what were the other 3? All tap ins to be fair + 1 for Burundi. In fact each time he scores he's getting closer and closer in.
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Dec 12, 2018 9:36:17 GMT
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Post by daz2631 on Dec 12, 2018 9:36:17 GMT
Saturday said a lot about his confidence it was first time ive seen him have a shot from outside box which just whistled past post hes starting to try and make things happen for himself which can only be a good thing to go with his excellent work rate this season
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 10:09:54 GMT
But we can agree on the torture pit yeah? He'd be infinitely more effective played with or behind a striker. I remember the goalline scramble and a checkatrade Sidibe-style back header, what were the other 3? All tap ins to be fair + 1 for Burundi. In fact each time he scores he's getting closer and closer in. The Burundi goal was actually a good finish,even dribbled round a defender
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Dec 12, 2018 10:32:20 GMT
Post by metalhead on Dec 12, 2018 10:32:20 GMT
He should be playing as the main striker - so far this season when given the chance he's looked far better than Afobe uptop Possibly but his finishing has been very poor. Berahino has been far better than Afobe. He should be starting every game. His finishing isn't there yet, but he is getting in the right positions and he's been unlucky at times. It'll happen with Bera. His head is in the right place this season.
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Dec 12, 2018 10:45:05 GMT
Post by adamsson on Dec 12, 2018 10:45:05 GMT
I actually think Diouf is our best striker, he makes more chances than the rest of them put together and if he was played up front for a few games he would gain confidence and start scoring them.
Diouf is however not very good.
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Post by OldStokie on Dec 12, 2018 11:59:14 GMT
Berahino is a different player this season. He now looks like he wants to forget his past and get on with it.
I blame the manager. From the beginning of the season he should have been playing two up front - Afobe and Berahino - with Bojan behind them in the number 10 role and Ince wide left or right and A.N.Other (Bauer?)on the other wing and I can pretty much guarantee that we would have turned many of those draws into wins. That positive formation would have both Afobe and Berahino with many more chances to score. They won't score them all but the law of averages says they would have scored more than they have now.
We've got a negative manager who thinks games are won and lost in a plotting room with large tv screens and endless playbacks. Waddo, bless his soul, would have shook his head in disdain at the goings on now at the setup, gone to the pub on a Friday night with the players, chucked them on the park on a Saturday, and told them to get on with it.
OS.
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Dec 12, 2018 12:06:34 GMT
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Post by lordb on Dec 12, 2018 12:06:34 GMT
Berahino is a different player this season. He now looks like he wants to forget his past and get on with it. I blame the manager. From the beginning of the season he should have been playing two up front - Afobe and Berahino - with Bojan behind them in the number 10 role and Ince wide left or right and A.N.Other (Bauer?)on the other wing and I can pretty much guarantee that we would have turned many of those draws into wins. That positive formation would have both Afobe and Berahino with many more chances to score. They won't score them all but the law of averages says they would have scored more than they have now. We've got a negative manager who thinks games are won and lost in a plotting room with large tv screens and endless playbacks. Waddo, bless his soul, would have shook his head in disdain at the goings on now at the setup, gone to the pub on a Friday night with the players, chucked them on the park on a Saturday, and told them to get on with it. OS. Five forwards? One to many? Maybe not, would depend on the game. Whatever personnel/formation we could be more positive than we are.
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Dec 12, 2018 14:17:18 GMT
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Dec 12, 2018 14:17:18 GMT
Berahino is a different player this season. He now looks like he wants to forget his past and get on with it. I blame the manager. From the beginning of the season he should have been playing two up front - Afobe and Berahino - with Bojan behind them in the number 10 role and Ince wide left or right and A.N.Other (Bauer?)on the other wing and I can pretty much guarantee that we would have turned many of those draws into wins. That positive formation would have both Afobe and Berahino with many more chances to score. They won't score them all but the law of averages says they would have scored more than they have now. We've got a negative manager who thinks games are won and lost in a plotting room with large tv screens and endless playbacks. Waddo, bless his soul, would have shook his head in disdain at the goings on now at the setup, gone to the pub on a Friday night with the players, chucked them on the park on a Saturday, and told them to get on with it. OS. Five forwards? One to many? Maybe not, would depend on the game. Whatever personnel/formation we could be more positive than we are. Be more a case of one of Bojan or Ince in that floated #10 role.
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Dec 12, 2018 14:25:11 GMT
Post by senojbor on Dec 12, 2018 14:25:11 GMT
We really need to find a permanent spot for this guy. He's wasted out wide left, yet is probably our most consistent player this season so far. He could maybe have a couple more goals but often played out of position, and when up front not having the correct balls played to him. I was one of his biggest critics but have seen a player in there. We need to utilise the midfield properly. We have seen signs, but that's all, signs we can adapt. We can, and definitely should make the top six. But boy it's been hard work. We see things differently. He's absolutely garbage even at this level. The single most reason we're in this league.
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Dec 12, 2018 14:35:23 GMT
Post by Pugsley on Dec 12, 2018 14:35:23 GMT
We really need to find a permanent spot for this guy. He's wasted out wide left, yet is probably our most consistent player this season so far. He could maybe have a couple more goals but often played out of position, and when up front not having the correct balls played to him. I was one of his biggest critics but have seen a player in there. We need to utilise the midfield properly. We have seen signs, but that's all, signs we can adapt. We can, and definitely should make the top six. But boy it's been hard work. We see things differently. He's absolutely garbage even at this level. The single most reason we're in this league. I think someone has been to a Christmas Party and had one sherry too many. Bless.
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Dec 12, 2018 16:32:27 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 12, 2018 16:32:27 GMT
Put it this way he's been the best of our so called strikers so far this season.
I'd give him a run of games as number 10 behind Afobe.
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Dec 12, 2018 17:27:00 GMT
Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 17:27:00 GMT
Whatever you think about him as a person, His skill set is utterly wasted on the left wing.
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Dec 12, 2018 18:18:38 GMT
Post by leicspotter on Dec 12, 2018 18:18:38 GMT
1 in the Checkatrade. 2 in the cup against Huddersfield and Notts Forest. And 2 in the League-Blackburn and QPR. I'm going fucking senile. I was at most of those games and remember none... I vaguely remember one going in off someone's arse. Point still stands he needs to score more, and hit the target more, but i'll grudgingly retract some of the torture pit.* Or selective memory
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Dec 12, 2018 18:36:57 GMT
Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 12, 2018 18:36:57 GMT
Put it this way he's been the best of our so called strikers so far this season. I'd give him a run of games as number 10 behind Afobe. He's played there twice this season if my memory is right. The first time (against Wigan I think) it worked really well - Berahino brought Afobe into play with some lovely passes. The second time (can't remember who against) it didn't work - Bojan was far too deep and didn't link up at all. I think it's well worth giving it a go with a midfield of Clucas, Allen, Woods and Etebo as an alternative to a front 3.
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