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Post by kevkj on Dec 9, 2018 19:10:44 GMT
The unlikeables , pretty apt for our shower.
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Post by Northy on Dec 17, 2018 20:48:00 GMT
I spotted this on restaurant row in New York a couple of weeks ago. Joe Allen, Brazil Brazil (small sign above) My Mrs queried why I was taking the picture, .... she'd never heard of Joe Allen đ”
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 17, 2018 23:56:41 GMT
With 5 goals and 4 assists Joe has contributed to nearly a third of our goals so far this season.
For all the flak he gets on here about being a headless chicken, he is gradually turning into our version of Frank Lampard, regularly turning up in the penalty area to score. He could have had a hat-trick on Saturday with better finishing; arguably one of the ones he missed was easier to convert than the one he scored.
I've posted before that in the 1960s when Josh Mahoney arrived from Crewe, he was heavily criticised for being a headless chicken, charging around the field to little effect, but after Dobing dropped out of the team he became one of our most creative MFs in the 1970s.
A player who gets about the pitch a lot needs time for the other players to get a good understanding of where is to be expected; that now seems to be developing.
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Post by Dave the Rave on Dec 19, 2018 19:07:08 GMT
His son goes to the same school as my friend's daughter so she's regularly at party's with his wife.
Apparently they're looking at new schools for their lad as Joe isn't intending on being at Stoke for much longer.
Can't blame him really.
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Post by cousindupree on Dec 19, 2018 19:12:06 GMT
His son goes to the same school as my friend's daughter so she's regularly at party's with his wife. Apparently they're looking at new schools for their lad as Joe isn't intending on being at Stoke for much longer. Can't blame him really. Pray tell which area?
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Post by santy on Dec 19, 2018 19:18:36 GMT
His son goes to the same school as my friend's daughter so she's regularly at party's with his wife. Apparently they're looking at new schools for their lad as Joe isn't intending on being at Stoke for much longer. Can't blame him really. Pray tell which area? Just nationally. In fact, its safe to say he might first pick a new school for his son, then begin asking clubs in that local area to try and sign him. Recently heard he had been buying Peter Odemwingie's Guide to Transfers.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2018 20:23:57 GMT
So 5 goals, 4 assists and the divisions most tackles. Not a bad return that is it?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2018 20:36:20 GMT
So 5 goals, 4 assists and the divisions most tackles. Not a bad return that is it? He was always going to be a major force in this league, regardless of what the know nowts on here were and still are saying about him.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Dec 19, 2018 20:43:25 GMT
So 5 goals, 4 assists and the divisions most tackles. Not a bad return that is it? He was always going to be a major force in this league, regardless of what the know nowts on here were and still are saying about him. Not bad for a âheadless chickenâ
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 19, 2018 20:44:43 GMT
Just nationally. In fact, its safe to say he might first pick a new school for his son, then begin asking clubs in that local area to try and sign him. Recently heard he had been buying Peter Odemwingie's Guide to Transfers.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 19, 2018 20:45:43 GMT
So 5 goals, 4 assists and the divisions most tackles. Not a bad return that is it? He was always going to be a major force in this league, regardless of what the know nowts on here were and still are saying about him. Rowett getting the best out of him.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 19, 2018 22:12:55 GMT
I like Allen but that stat is misleading.
Some of those tackles have to be from when he has miscontrolled the ball first....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2018 23:00:52 GMT
He was always going to be a major force in this league, regardless of what the know nowts on here were and still are saying about him. Rowett getting the best out of him. Ssssshhhh. Don't say stuff like that too loud.
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Post by rawli on Dec 20, 2018 9:10:19 GMT
So 5 goals, 4 assists and the divisions most tackles. Not a bad return that is it? Can you please take your facts and shove them up your arse. We've had enough of experts in this country telling us what we should think.
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Post by lstokie on Dec 20, 2018 10:41:02 GMT
His son goes to the same school as my friend's daughter so she's regularly at party's with his wife. Apparently they're looking at new schools for their lad as Joe isn't intending on being at Stoke for much longer. Can't blame him really. You do spout some shite
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Post by southstanddan on Dec 20, 2018 11:08:51 GMT
Didnât we used to cheer the team on when we went behind? I can imagine it being more of a lift to them than being booed? Yeah yeah âyou pay your moneyâ and all that crap but if your paying to see us win every game then your a fan of the wrong sport. Nearly every game you watch now has the fans booing their team when they go behind. Itâs a generation thing I think, the main âbooersâ as such are probably mid 20s and part of this new culture that dropped subjects at school because their teacher stressed them out. They probably have kids that misbehave at school but itâs ok because they have ADHD and itâs not their fault. They donât need disciplining, they are free spirits.
Donât give a damn how many of you Iâve offended because Iâve probably just described you above to a T. If your not willing to go to a match and run the risk of everything going our way then donât bloody go if it makes you so unhappy.
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Post by southstanddan on Dec 20, 2018 11:10:14 GMT
Iâm actually excited at the amount of incoming Iâm about to get
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Post by santy on Dec 20, 2018 11:17:52 GMT
Didnât we used to cheer the team on when we went behind? I can imagine it being more of a lift to them than being booed? Yeah yeah âyou pay your moneyâ and all that crap but if your paying to see us win every game then your a fan of the wrong sport. Nearly every game you watch now has the fans booing their team when they go behind. Itâs a generation thing I think, the main âbooersâ as such are probably mid 20s and part of this new culture that dropped subjects at school because their teacher stressed them out. They probably have kids that misbehave at school but itâs ok because they have ADHD and itâs not their fault. They donât need disciplining, they are free spirits. Donât give a damn how many of you Iâve offended because Iâve probably just described you above to a T. If your not willing to go to a match and run the risk of everything going our way then donât bloody go if it makes you so unhappy. I mean you go off on some wild tangents seemingly trying to be controversial or edgy but I can perhaps offer up something to help you understand (although its worth mentioning, your post reads more as though you're offended yourself) If you're 6 rounds in a fight against an in his prime Mike Tyson and you're still there, still standing and taking a beating even if you're behind on all the scorecards you feel some pride. Even more so if you're not a heavyweight yourself. However, at times its more like we're a heavyweight fighting a lightweight who has 1 hand tied behind their back and still making it look an awful lot like hard work to get to the midway point even on the scorecard. Hence the proclivity from some to boo. I wouldn't have thought it was difficult to grasp, but... perhaps its a generation thing .
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Post by mattythestokie on Dec 20, 2018 11:21:04 GMT
Another player that it will take him leaving before people realise how good he is.
Quality player.
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Post by ruts66 on Dec 20, 2018 11:46:08 GMT
Didnât we used to cheer the team on when we went behind? I can imagine it being more of a lift to them than being booed? Yeah yeah âyou pay your moneyâ and all that crap but if your paying to see us win every game then your a fan of the wrong sport. Nearly every game you watch now has the fans booing their team when they go behind. Itâs a generation thing I think, the main âbooersâ as such are probably mid 20s and part of this new culture that dropped subjects at school because their teacher stressed them out. They probably have kids that misbehave at school but itâs ok because they have ADHD and itâs not their fault. They donât need disciplining, they are free spirits. Donât give a damn how many of you Iâve offended because Iâve probably just described you above to a T. If your not willing to go to a match and run the risk of everything going our way then donât bloody go if it makes you so unhappy. There's undoubtedly some truth in this, Dan. Unconditional support does seem to be a casualty of the rise in entitlement...
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Post by southstanddan on Dec 20, 2018 12:32:33 GMT
Didnât we used to cheer the team on when we went behind? I can imagine it being more of a lift to them than being booed? Yeah yeah âyou pay your moneyâ and all that crap but if your paying to see us win every game then your a fan of the wrong sport. Nearly every game you watch now has the fans booing their team when they go behind. Itâs a generation thing I think, the main âbooersâ as such are probably mid 20s and part of this new culture that dropped subjects at school because their teacher stressed them out. They probably have kids that misbehave at school but itâs ok because they have ADHD and itâs not their fault. They donât need disciplining, they are free spirits. Donât give a damn how many of you Iâve offended because Iâve probably just described you above to a T. If your not willing to go to a match and run the risk of everything going our way then donât bloody go if it makes you so unhappy. I mean you go off on some wild tangents seemingly trying to be controversial or edgy but I can perhaps offer up something to help you understand (although its worth mentioning, your post reads more as though you're offended yourself) If you're 6 rounds in a fight against an in his prime Mike Tyson and you're still there, still standing and taking a beating even if you're behind on all the scorecards you feel some pride. Even more so if you're not a heavyweight yourself. However, at times its more like we're a heavyweight fighting a lightweight who has 1 hand tied behind their back and still making it look an awful lot like hard work to get to the midway point even on the scorecard. Hence the proclivity from some to boo. I wouldn't have thought it was difficult to grasp, but... perhaps its a generation thing . Not hard to grasp one bit. Your getting on the heavyweights back mid fight helps him how? Good wild boxing tangent by the way
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Dec 20, 2018 12:38:40 GMT
His son goes to the same school as my friend's daughter so she's regularly at party's with his wife. Apparently they're looking at new schools for their lad as Joe isn't intending on being at Stoke for much longer. Can't blame him really. I've read some things on here but this is a tale and a half.
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Post by adi on Dec 20, 2018 12:46:51 GMT
Didnât we used to cheer the team on when we went behind? I can imagine it being more of a lift to them than being booed? Yeah yeah âyou pay your moneyâ and all that crap but if your paying to see us win every game then your a fan of the wrong sport. Nearly every game you watch now has the fans booing their team when they go behind. Itâs a generation thing I think, the main âbooersâ as such are probably mid 20s and part of this new culture that dropped subjects at school because their teacher stressed them out. They probably have kids that misbehave at school but itâs ok because they have ADHD and itâs not their fault. They donât need disciplining, they are free spirits. Donât give a damn how many of you Iâve offended because Iâve probably just described you above to a T. If your not willing to go to a match and run the risk of everything going our way then donât bloody go if it makes you so unhappy. To play devil's advocate, maybe those who cant bear to hear their team booed should stop going? I also think its a bit daft to try to generalise the 'type' of person just because they exercise their right to a voice and an opinion. I do agree though about every naughty kid who is out of control having ADHD, its just a get out.
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Post by thevoid on Dec 20, 2018 13:21:24 GMT
His son goes to the same school as my friend's daughter so she's regularly at party's with his wife. Apparently they're looking at new schools for their lad as Joe isn't intending on being at Stoke for much longer. Can't blame him really. You have a friend? đŻ
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Post by citynickscfc on Dec 20, 2018 13:39:57 GMT
Didnât we used to cheer the team on when we went behind? I can imagine it being more of a lift to them than being booed? Yeah yeah âyou pay your moneyâ and all that crap but if your paying to see us win every game then your a fan of the wrong sport. Nearly every game you watch now has the fans booing their team when they go behind. Itâs a generation thing I think, the main âbooersâ as such are probably mid 20s and part of this new culture that dropped subjects at school because their teacher stressed them out. They probably have kids that misbehave at school but itâs ok because they have ADHD and itâs not their fault. They donât need disciplining, they are free spirits. Donât give a damn how many of you Iâve offended because Iâve probably just described you above to a T. If your not willing to go to a match and run the risk of everything going our way then donât bloody go if it makes you so unhappy. There's undoubtedly some truth in this, Dan. Unconditional support does seem to be a casualty of the rise in entitlement... And the downfall of many as is blind faith and blind loyalty
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Post by santy on Dec 20, 2018 13:42:27 GMT
I mean you go off on some wild tangents seemingly trying to be controversial or edgy but I can perhaps offer up something to help you understand (although its worth mentioning, your post reads more as though you're offended yourself) If you're 6 rounds in a fight against an in his prime Mike Tyson and you're still there, still standing and taking a beating even if you're behind on all the scorecards you feel some pride. Even more so if you're not a heavyweight yourself. However, at times its more like we're a heavyweight fighting a lightweight who has 1 hand tied behind their back and still making it look an awful lot like hard work to get to the midway point even on the scorecard. Hence the proclivity from some to boo. I wouldn't have thought it was difficult to grasp, but... perhaps its a generation thing . Not hard to grasp one bit. Your getting on the heavyweights back mid fight helps him how? Good wild boxing tangent by the way Bless, you're a good sport trying to play the game but it was a boxing analogy. I wasn't trying to conflate younger folk and booing with the perceived ills of modern society in a package of supporting Stoke. That's going off at a tangent (particularly within context of this thread about Joe Allen) Although to highlight, the booing or cheering in general won't have all that much impact as say a good plan would. Something like a tactic that relies on your strengths and exposing an opponents weakness. I feel like that is perhaps a touch more important. Otherwise, you just merely need to crank the PA volume up to full and having it playing 90 minutes of deafening adulation and watch as the team crushes all before them. Won't even matter what players you send out, get it at a high enough decibel and you can just take 11 from the stands. I should point out by the way, I haven't said that I boo the players myself, you merely presented yourself as confused and unable to grasp it.
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Post by southstanddan on Dec 20, 2018 15:04:05 GMT
Not hard to grasp one bit. Your getting on the heavyweights back mid fight helps him how? Good wild boxing tangent by the way Bless, you're a good sport trying to play the game but it was a boxing analogy. I wasn't trying to conflate younger folk and booing with the perceived ills of modern society in a package of supporting Stoke. That's going off at a tangent (particularly within context of this thread about Joe Allen) Although to highlight, the booing or cheering in general won't have all that much impact as say a good plan would. Something like a tactic that relies on your strengths and exposing an opponents weakness. I feel like that is perhaps a touch more important. Otherwise, you just merely need to crank the PA volume up to full and having it playing 90 minutes of deafening adulation and watch as the team crushes all before them. Won't even matter what players you send out, get it at a high enough decibel and you can just take 11 from the stands. I should point out by the way, I haven't said that I boo the players myself, you merely presented yourself as confused and unable to grasp it. Brilliant, found one straight away. Was it the description of you in the first post that touched a nerve kid? I stopped reading at something to do with the PA system. Just stop booing, it doesnât help.
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Post by stokeyank on Dec 20, 2018 15:15:09 GMT
Another player that it will take him leaving before people realize how good he is. Quality player. To be fair virtually everyone though the first 5 or so games this season he was pretty crap. He's worked his way back to playing well recently. Personally I am not a fan of him as a footballer, but full credit that that past few games he has been excellent. If he can keep this form I will surely change my tune.
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Post by santy on Dec 20, 2018 17:01:41 GMT
Bless, you're a good sport trying to play the game but it was a boxing analogy. I wasn't trying to conflate younger folk and booing with the perceived ills of modern society in a package of supporting Stoke. That's going off at a tangent (particularly within context of this thread about Joe Allen) Although to highlight, the booing or cheering in general won't have all that much impact as say a good plan would. Something like a tactic that relies on your strengths and exposing an opponents weakness. I feel like that is perhaps a touch more important. Otherwise, you just merely need to crank the PA volume up to full and having it playing 90 minutes of deafening adulation and watch as the team crushes all before them. Won't even matter what players you send out, get it at a high enough decibel and you can just take 11 from the stands. I should point out by the way, I haven't said that I boo the players myself, you merely presented yourself as confused and unable to grasp it. Brilliant, found one straight away. Was it the description of you in the first post that touched a nerve kid? I stopped reading at something to do with the PA system. Just stop booing, it doesnât help. Not really touched a nerve, just proven yourself ignorant. Funnily enough proving this with a single remark. You seem quite touchy yourself though, refusing to read posts on a forum like you've been gravely offended. As I said initially, you were just trying to be edgy with your viewpoint. You do fall for a good few of the internet teenage tropes though, use of the phrase "kid" to demean others and to somehow give your point more weight (in your own mind alone) as well as trying to make out your some kind of edgelord who doesn't care who he offends. All in all, I just tried to help someone who seemed unable to understand something fairly basic. Why people boo, and the effectiveness of booing are two different points, I figured I better mention this in advance before you reply and try to somehow put the words in my mouth of what I think about booing players.
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Post by southstanddan on Dec 20, 2018 17:26:43 GMT
Brilliant, found one straight away. Was it the description of you in the first post that touched a nerve kid? I stopped reading at something to do with the PA system. Just stop booing, it doesnât help. Not really touched a nerve, just proven yourself ignorant. Funnily enough proving this with a single remark. You seem quite touchy yourself though, refusing to read posts on a forum like you've been gravely offended. As I said initially, you were just trying to be edgy with your viewpoint. You do fall for a good few of the internet teenage tropes though, use of the phrase "kid" to demean others and to somehow give your point more weight (in your own mind alone) as well as trying to make out your some kind of edgelord who doesn't care who he offends. All in all, I just tried to help someone who seemed unable to understand something fairly basic. Why people boo, and the effectiveness of booing are two different points, I figured I better mention this in advance before you reply and try to somehow put the words in my mouth of what I think about booing players. All your posts are long and boring. You seem to think by typing an essay each time you log in that you hold some form of high ground. You donât come off as educated one bit, you come across as insecure. Your long posts donât carry more weight as they contain more words. Get typing, I will come back in an hour to see what you have managed.
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