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Post by robrigo on Dec 8, 2018 18:21:23 GMT
Despite our start to the season, we are a mere 4 points off the play offs. I can’t believe that really and I wonder if we are really beginning to get our act together- not in terms of style but in points being finally gathered.
This is a real possibility and top six is there for the taking.
Come on Stoke!
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Post by crewkernepotter on Dec 8, 2018 18:27:17 GMT
I might be one of the few who doesn't want us to get promoted with Rowett as manager. He wouldn't have a clue in the premiership, we would end up a laughing stock
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 8, 2018 18:27:53 GMT
I might be one of the few who doesn't want us to get promoted with Rowett as manager. He wouldn't have a clue in the premiership, we would end up a laughing stock
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Post by chad on Dec 8, 2018 18:47:12 GMT
I might be one of the few who doesn't want us to get promoted with Rowett as manager. He wouldn't have a clue in the premiership, we would end up a laughing stock Jesus wept. I despair sometimes
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Post by Gods on Dec 8, 2018 18:49:05 GMT
For our next trick we need to avoid defeat at Villa and turn over Millwall at the Bet365.
Do that and we would be on the periphery of the mix at 23 games at half way.
And that would be progress of a kind.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 8, 2018 18:54:03 GMT
We're as close to relegation as we are to promotion. Not good enough.
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 8, 2018 18:59:07 GMT
We're as close to relegation as we are to promotion. Not good enough. Exactly, fools looking at single wins not seeing the coming fixtures and the half a season of horrid results. You thought eight games made a season. The first half of the season was a "walk" HA! Look at the home and away after the 12 of January!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 19:00:27 GMT
We're as close to relegation as we are to promotion. Not good enough. Exactly, fools looking at single wins not seeing the coming fixtures and the half a season of horrid results. You thought eight games made a season. The first half of the season was a "walk" HA! Look at the home and away after the 12 of January! Keep going mate. You can preach this message at least another 50 times tonight, IF YOU STAY STRONG!
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 8, 2018 19:04:03 GMT
Exactly, fools looking at single wins not seeing the coming fixtures and the half a season of horrid results. You thought eight games made a season. The first half of the season was a "walk" HA! Look at the home and away after the 12 of January! Keep going mate. You can preach this message at least another 50 times tonight, IF YOU STAY STRONG! It takes some doing for some thick ones on here. Like I did when Hughes was our manager and Lambert after that and now Rowett. In the end, it was obvious. Don't kill the messenger.
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Post by Davef on Dec 8, 2018 19:05:24 GMT
We are currently four points worse off than we were at the same stage of our 2008 promotion season when a better team than this one ended up with 79 points.
79 points would probably be good enough to get into the play offs this season, but on current form can anyone really see us finishing with that kind of points haul?
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Post by robrigo on Dec 8, 2018 19:07:31 GMT
We're as close to relegation as we are to promotion. Not good enough. Exactly, fools looking at single wins not seeing the coming fixtures and the half a season of horrid results. You thought eight games made a season. The first half of the season was a "walk" HA! Look at the home and away after the 12 of January! I’m not saying it’s good enough and I’m not foolish enough to think everything is rosey, but we are four points off the play offs and therefore we are right in this. And that is unbelievable considering our start to the season. It’s a crazy league and I’m not saying we will make the playoffs but we are definitely in the race.
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Post by ProctorDre on Dec 8, 2018 19:10:54 GMT
We're as close to relegation as we are to promotion. Not good enough. 4 points from the play offs, 12 points off the bottom 3. Cracking maths there.
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 8, 2018 19:10:55 GMT
Exactly, fools looking at single wins not seeing the coming fixtures and the half a season of horrid results. You thought eight games made a season. The first half of the season was a "walk" HA! Look at the home and away after the 12 of January! I’m not saying it’s good enough and I’m not foolish enough to think everything is rosey, but we are four points off the play offs and therefore we are right in this. And that is unbelievable considering our start to the season. It’s a crazy league and I’m not saying we will make the playoffs but we are definitely in the race. We are, I'm not suggesting we are not, we are also just as close to relegation as well. It isn't all roses is what I'm suggesting. Mind you, with a tougher list coming, and a window (if they trust him to invest more.) Place your bet. I'm just looking at all of it since the summer and more pessimistic than most. I'd love to be proved wrong, I said the same for Hughes and Lambert but we all know what happened there.
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 8, 2018 19:12:42 GMT
We're as close to relegation as we are to promotion. Not good enough. 4 points from the play offs, 12 points off the bottom 3. Cracking maths there. Three to four straight losses from relegation battle isn't a mountain with this side. It's very conceivable to be brought into it at the bottom as is the climb towards the top.
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Post by chigstoke on Dec 8, 2018 19:14:03 GMT
I might be one of the few who doesn't want us to get promoted with Rowett as manager. He wouldn't have a clue in the premiership, we would end up a laughing stock Are you this much of a fucking idiot away from this forum?
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Dec 8, 2018 19:14:37 GMT
We're as close to relegation as we are to promotion. Not good enough. As are most teams in the league...
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Post by ProctorDre on Dec 8, 2018 19:14:38 GMT
4 points from the play offs, 12 points off the bottom 3. Cracking maths there. Three to four straight losses from relegation battle isn't a mountain with this side. It's very conceivable to be brought into it at the bottom as is the climb towards the top. The statement was "we are as close to relegation as we are promotion". It's completely, factually false. There's no argument to be had.
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Post by theteacher on Dec 8, 2018 19:14:47 GMT
Progress has been made BUT when the parts (the players) are greater than the total (the team) then there is a problem.
With the players available to the manager (arguably the best squad in the division) we should not be playing catch-up. I accept he was left with issues when he joined the club but he did bring in 9 new players during the summer.
IMO the manager has “an underdog” mentality and we are playing like that. We don’t appear to be a team who can win a game confortubably even when the opposition are poor and we are on top of our game. We seem to set-up to battle for a one goal victory but then it only takes a mistake, a poor decision or just luck and points are dropped.
Let’s see what the January window brings and judge the manager and any improvement in performance towards the end of the season. It’s a long season and anything is possible......
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Post by adri2008 on Dec 8, 2018 19:16:24 GMT
Back in September after seeing how utterly shit our defence looked, I thought it was damage control until January. Since then we at least look a bit more solid and we are well in the mix so I'm not feeling too despondent. Automatic promotion looks unrealistic but playoffs certainly aren't.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 8, 2018 19:16:27 GMT
We're as close to relegation as we are to promotion. Not good enough. 4 points from the play offs, 12 points off the bottom 3. Cracking maths there. 12 points off a promotion spot, 12 points off a relegation spot. I'm factually correct. Playoffs guarantee nothing, especially with this bottle job in charge. I'll admit I should have said points wise for the mentally challenged.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Dec 8, 2018 19:21:06 GMT
I might be one of the few who doesn't want us to get promoted with Rowett as manager. He wouldn't have a clue in the premiership, we would end up a laughing stock I would not worry to much about that there is not a cat in hells chance that we will get promoted with Rowett at the helm. It will be back to reality next week at Villa park if we play anything like we did today.
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Post by ProctorDre on Dec 8, 2018 19:22:10 GMT
4 points from the play offs, 12 points off the bottom 3. Cracking maths there. 12 points off a promotion spot, 12 points off a relegation spot. I'm factually correct. Playoffs guarantee nothing, especially with this bottle job in charge. I'll admit I should have said points wise for the mentally challenged. Ah any way to spin your bullshit. Mentally challenged? Get fucked.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 8, 2018 19:22:36 GMT
We're as close to relegation as we are to promotion. Not good enough. As are most teams in the league... Have most teams spent £50million?
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 8, 2018 19:23:08 GMT
Three to four straight losses from relegation battle isn't a mountain with this side. It's very conceivable to be brought into it at the bottom as is the climb towards the top. The statement was "we are as close to relegation as we are promotion". It's completely, factually false. There's no argument to be had. I think your talking points and he's talking places. Nothing is guaranteed. If that was the case we'd be top with the most money and clearly one of the best squads on paper. It's the here an now argument, versus the other half of the season left.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 19:25:49 GMT
6 points from playoffs now after the late game
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 19:26:14 GMT
The statement was "we are as close to relegation as we are promotion". It's completely, factually false. There's no argument to be had. I think your talking points and he's talking places. Nothing is guaranteed. If that was the case we'd be top with the most money and clearly one of the best squads on paper. It's the here an now argument, versus the other half of the season left. Is this the other half of the season where we play the same teams again - but according to your lack of knowledge, they will be harder to play against next time around?
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Post by Godo on Dec 8, 2018 19:26:31 GMT
I might be one of the few who doesn't want us to get promoted with Rowett as manager. He wouldn't have a clue in the premiership, we would end up a laughing stock Did I really just read that? I know there are rules about abuse but honestly what a daft prick!!!
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Post by ProctorDre on Dec 8, 2018 19:27:03 GMT
The statement was "we are as close to relegation as we are promotion". It's completely, factually false. There's no argument to be had. I think your talking points and he's talking places. Nothing is guaranteed. If that was the case we'd be top with the most money and clearly one of the best squads on paper. It's the here an now argument, versus the other half of the season left. Points far more relevant than places, as the table shows.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Dec 8, 2018 19:33:54 GMT
We're as close to relegation as we are to promotion. Not good enough. 4 points from the play offs, 12 points off the bottom 3. Cracking maths there. Notice the other Mathematical genius that liked his comment? Just proving that he'll like even completely made up things now, as long as it's an excuse to slag off Stoke
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 8, 2018 19:35:00 GMT
I think your talking points and he's talking places. Nothing is guaranteed. If that was the case we'd be top with the most money and clearly one of the best squads on paper. It's the here an now argument, versus the other half of the season left. Is this the other half of the season where we play the same teams again - but according to your lack of knowledge, they will be harder to play against next time around? It depends if at home versus away, with our shit defending away. Have a look eh? Do you talk about things before looking? I don't share the same optimism and they most likely will be harder to play next time around as places finalize, so yes.
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