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Post by Dave the Rave on Dec 8, 2018 17:46:59 GMT
I mean, seriously?
Pulis' dross wasn't as bad as this was it?
2 shots on target, against that Ipswich defence, with the first one coming after 47 minutes.
Pulis split the support down the middle whereas everyone seems to unanimously agree that Rowett is woeful.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 8, 2018 17:47:24 GMT
No.
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Post by wrighter on Dec 8, 2018 17:50:20 GMT
NO
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Post by march4 on Dec 8, 2018 17:50:24 GMT
Infinitely worse.
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Post by ProctorDre on Dec 8, 2018 17:51:40 GMT
I mean, seriously? Pulis' dross wasn't as bad as this was it? 2 shots on target, against that Ipswich defence, with the first one coming after 47 minutes. Pulis split the support down the middle whereas everyone seems to unanimously agreed that Rowett is woeful. Far from people unanimously agreeing that Rowett is woeful tbh. Probably on this message board that’s the case but there’s plenty of fans who can see things rationally and put things into perspective that are backing him. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 17:51:46 GMT
Diabolical football.
Christ alive that was absolute shite.
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Post by daveuppercut on Dec 8, 2018 17:55:15 GMT
No. We're not going to get relegated, granted we're probably not going to get promoted, but, let's give it at least enough time to
A. Build a team with a couple of transfer windows.
B. Let that team gel and get used to Rowetts tactics.
C. Rid ourselves of the dead wood on massive wages
D. Shake the negative attitude of the last three seasons that has effected the way the team act and react on the pitch.
Or we could sack Rowett as if its all his fault, remove responsibility from everyone else who has had a hand in our current situation only for the deep lying problems to persist with a new manager, who will then have to start from square one.
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Post by bobby1eye on Dec 8, 2018 18:00:15 GMT
No. We're not going to get relegated, granted we're probably not going to get promoted, but, let's give it at least enough time to A. Build a team with a couple of transfer windows. B. Let that team gel and get used to Rowetts tactics. C. Rid ourselves of the dead wood on massive wages D. Shake the negative attitude of the last three seasons that has effected the way the team act and react on the pitch. Or we could sack Rowett as if its all his fault, remove responsibility from everyone else who has had a hand in our current situation only for the deep lying problems to persist with a new manager, who will then have to start from square one. We are fucked if we with stick with B. |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Dec 8, 2018 18:02:32 GMT
What Pulis era? 02-05 absolutely not. 06-11 absolutely yes 11-13 absolutely not. On the whole it was bad today, but those goals were very nice indeed.
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 8, 2018 18:05:21 GMT
Pulis teams actually went for it at home and never let up. We've never had so many draws at home being a favoured side for promotion with more cash than most.
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Post by daveuppercut on Dec 8, 2018 18:10:30 GMT
Maybe, but I can't see us getting relegated, so where's the harm in giving it a season, if we sack him we are ignoring the deeper lying problems. No. We're not going to get relegated, granted we're probably not going to get promoted, but, let's give it at least enough time to A. Build a team with a couple of transfer windows. B. Let that team gel and get used to Rowetts tactics. C. Rid ourselves of the dead wood on massive wages D. Shake the negative attitude of the last three seasons that has effected the way the team act and react on the pitch. Or we could sack Rowett as if its all his fault, remove responsibility from everyone else who has had a hand in our current situation only for the deep lying problems to persist with a new manager, who will then have to start from square one. We are fucked if we with stick with B. |
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Post by santy on Dec 8, 2018 18:15:03 GMT
Rowett 15-20 years ago would have been the ideal manager to have come in to the side last year and begin a push for the top 6. The problem is, the ideas in the game have moved on. He just seems to have seen an Arsene Wenger team of that era and decided that was for him. He should still get us promoted, but it really would call for Thordarsson levels of behaviour from the board where once promotion is confirmed decide we're bringing someone else in. Ultimately, no one can justify not getting promoted with the amount of money spent, and the strength of the squad at his disposal. We haven't come down bankrupt like Leeds and Portsmouth did. We haven't had a penny pinching chairman like Villa did. We didn't have an on the cheap in every aspect charlatan like Newcastle United did. We came down with a midtable capable squad, with a chairman that invests and players good enough to play at the level who lost their way under Hughes. Yes, relegation is hard to take and losing the winning feeling can be difficult. But if an Argentinian bloke can rock up at Leeds, take a team that won just 4 games after Christmas and looked like they were saved by a good run earlier in the season alone and take them to promotion spots while barely even making use of one of his two at-cost signings (Bamford, the expensive one) why can't Gary Rowett with Stoke?  |
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Post by RAF on Dec 8, 2018 18:20:08 GMT
Pulis teams actually went for it at home and never let up. We've never had so many draws at home being a favoured side for promotion with more cash than most. Well yeah, apart from the binary season and bonus games obviously. H |
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Post by stokecitydom on Dec 8, 2018 18:27:32 GMT
We need to find a Fuller type player. Someone to get the fans on the edge of our seats.
Very unlikely to find another Ric, but I can keep dreaming.
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Post by bhp on Dec 8, 2018 18:32:39 GMT
Rowett 15-20 years ago would have been the ideal manager to have come in to the side last year and begin a push for the top 6. The problem is, the ideas in the game have moved on. He just seems to have seen an Arsene Wenger team of that era and decided that was for him. He should still get us promoted, but it really would call for Thordarsson levels of behaviour from the board where once promotion is confirmed decide we're bringing someone else in. Ultimately, no one can justify not getting promoted with the amount of money spent, and the strength of the squad at his disposal. We haven't come down bankrupt like Leeds and Portsmouth did. We haven't had a penny pinching chairman like Villa did. We didn't have an on the cheap in every aspect charlatan like Newcastle United did. We came down with a midtable capable squad, with a chairman that invests and players good enough to play at the level who lost their way under Hughes. Yes, relegation is hard to take and losing the winning feeling can be difficult. But if an Argentinian bloke can rock up at Leeds, take a team that won just 4 games after Christmas and looked like they were saved by a good run earlier in the season alone and take them to promotion spots while barely even making use of one of his two at-cost signings (Bamford, the expensive one) why can't Gary Rowett with Stoke? In short, because Bielsa is a world class coach. Strange man but he's an excellent coach. |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Dec 8, 2018 18:35:25 GMT
Pulis teams actually went for it at home and never let up. We've never had so many draws at home being a favoured side for promotion with more cash than most.
And the award for "Proving to everyone on here that he knows fuck all" goes to.......
How embarrassing for you  |
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 8, 2018 18:39:35 GMT
Pulis teams actually went for it at home and never let up. We've never had so many draws at home being a favoured side for promotion with more cash than most.
And the award for "Proving to everyone on here that he knows fuck all" goes to.......
How embarrassing for you We counter attacked and went for wins at home versus poor opposition. We setup shop versus the big boys. Like we did Ipswich today. The big boys who haven't won since AUGUST! 🤣 |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Dec 8, 2018 18:40:09 GMT
I fucking hate it when Stoke win, right ruins my planned weekend moan-a-thon!
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Dec 8, 2018 18:40:31 GMT
And the award for "Proving to everyone on here that he knows fuck all" goes to.......
How embarrassing for you We counter attacked and went for wins at home versus poor opposition. We setup shop versus the big boys. Like we did Ipswich today. The big boys who haven't won since AUGUST! 🤣 So it's Rowett's fault the opposition are shit and therefore the 3 points don't count? Fuck me, you're thick as fuck aren't you petal |
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Post by Pedropotter on Dec 8, 2018 18:40:44 GMT
Yes
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 8, 2018 18:56:25 GMT
We counter attacked and went for wins at home versus poor opposition. We setup shop versus the big boys. Like we did Ipswich today. The big boys who haven't won since AUGUST! 🤣 So it's Rowett's fault the opposition are shit and therefore the 3 points don't count? Fuck me, you're thick as fuck aren't you petal Changing the goal post now eh? Did I say it didn't count? Yes they were absolute horseshit and we were poor until the 47th minute at home. You're embarrassing if you think that was amazing and playoff like football. Like I've said, its an easly spell mid season, it only gets tougher after the first of January. It's Rowett's fault we're even this low in the table with players brought in like McClean and Williams on huge money. I don't blame the players one bit... The manager on the otherhand. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 18:57:57 GMT
And the award for "Proving to everyone on here that he knows fuck all" goes to.......
How embarrassing for you We counter attacked and went for wins at home versus poor opposition. We setup shop versus the big boys. Like we did Ipswich today. The big boys who haven't won since AUGUST! 🤣  |
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Post by Davef on Dec 8, 2018 18:58:09 GMT
The only thing more boring than Rowett's football are these continual threads about how much more boring his football is than Pulis's.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 8, 2018 19:00:40 GMT
It's asking whats worse,a stinking dry Turd or a stinking wet Turd.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 19:01:22 GMT
It's asking whats worse,a stinking dry Turd or a stinking wet Turd. A wet one is worse. |
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Post by Absolution on Dec 8, 2018 19:03:14 GMT
I've seen Pulis defending 1-0 deficits FFS.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 8, 2018 19:06:32 GMT
No. I stopped going under Pulis because I hated the football so much. If anyone doesn't like what Rowett is doing I suggest you do the same. Seriously why pay good money to do something you ddn't enjoy - that's just daft.
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Post by StaffordPotter on Dec 8, 2018 19:10:58 GMT
Worse than any Pulis era and the Lambert era in my opinion.
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Post by Godo on Dec 8, 2018 19:23:28 GMT
In Pulis last 2 seasons and that painful first spell Ive seen Pulis teams many times go behind in the first half and for the rest of the game.......nothing changed. 2 banks of 4 behind the ball, a hoof up field to the striker and some poor sod in between running backwards and forwards with a stiff neck. Even the set pieces became wholly unthreatening. But that was then and this is now so why the fuck are we still harping on about the past. .....until we get rid of the aging expensive dead wood and the bad attitude on loan gang we'll never go forward regardless of manager
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Post by Dave the Rave on Dec 8, 2018 19:44:03 GMT
The only thing more boring than Rowett's football are these continual threads about how much more boring his football is than Pulis's. The "Why do you support Stoke?" ones must be in there, surely? |
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