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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 18, 2018 16:48:05 GMT
Dave it was there to start with but disappeared🤔It was the mugshots of so called supporters Staffs Police have put out.I just assumed it had been taken down mate No reason for us to remove it mate, and nobody has done. Ok mate no problem 👍
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Post by Davef on Dec 18, 2018 16:48:44 GMT
My 100% comment has (not so mysteriously) gone too! That WAS removed, because (as usual with a lot of your posts) it was complete and utter rubbish. Get your facts right before you accuse moderators of removing stuff.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Dec 18, 2018 16:55:04 GMT
I think one of them is Jack Nicholson!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 18, 2018 16:58:02 GMT
I think one of them is Jack Nicholson! Or even Marty Feldman 😂
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 18, 2018 17:08:25 GMT
After a quick glance I thought Ronnie O Sullivan was a Stokie 🤣
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Post by stantheman on Dec 18, 2018 17:11:59 GMT
Its like a very confusing 'Spot the Ball' competition!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 18, 2018 19:12:42 GMT
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Post by ProctorDre on Dec 19, 2018 8:59:30 GMT
I think one of them is Jack Nicholson! The two on the right of the middle of the row look like Harry and Marv from Home Alone!
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Post by sheds1862 on Dec 19, 2018 9:10:19 GMT
Plug off The bash street kids has also made an appearance
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Post by Cast no shadow on Dec 20, 2018 18:58:20 GMT
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Post by samba :) on Dec 20, 2018 19:06:04 GMT
very harsh if you ask me, worse things that happened that night will go unpunished
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 19:46:23 GMT
Plus a total of 395 fine. The fine is high enough in itself but I fear this incident will now be used as tool to draw a line in the sand. I expect all involved in these cases will have the book thrown at them.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 20, 2018 19:59:31 GMT
Seems like a completely disproportionate sentence
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Post by jonah8 on Dec 20, 2018 20:05:41 GMT
Seems like a completely disproportionate sentence Watch any of these Bodycam cops, Traffic cops type of programmes and for the same offence it's a caution or small fine so it looks like it's a statement of intent for all the other's currently getting arrested.
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Post by jonah8 on Dec 20, 2018 20:07:08 GMT
Plus they don't get a three year banning order from the town centre.
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Post by dexta on Dec 20, 2018 20:29:23 GMT
Old bill out to ruin us...got to jusify all of the policing costs
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Post by Sven on Dec 20, 2018 20:43:19 GMT
are any of vales dickheads been paraded and arrested or is this just a one way street.
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Post by neckender78 on Dec 20, 2018 21:07:05 GMT
Old bill out to ruin us...got to jusify all of the policing costs Agreed and also on others comments on the disproportionate sentence. The whole police and media response since the day after the game has been way OTT. Look at the sentinel and it seems they have been present at virtually every arrest with a snapper there. Will there be a similar response to incidents on black eye Friday tomorrow?? Mugshots, daily bulletins etc, I doubt it. Football fans have always been easy target for the plod. First derby game in 17 years seriously what did they think was going to happen?? Accepted that the vandalism went a bit far but the actual trouble was pretty tame compared to some games in the 90s but you wouldn't think that from the still daily reports in the sentinel. I worry about the future of football it's already too sanitised. Every day you hear statements xxx club don't tolerate this are committed to diversity, inclusivity blah blah blah. What end game do they want people sitting nicely in a ground without standing, shouting or singing. Does every song need to be passed by the club's PC department before it can be sung. Football has always had an edge it's needed it's what makes the game special.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 20, 2018 21:40:01 GMT
I'm aware of someone who handed himself in on Tuesday yet still got an awkward knock at a location designed to do the individual the most damage today. How is that good or appropriate policing?
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Post by lordb on Dec 20, 2018 22:12:50 GMT
Old bill out to ruin us...got to jusify all of the policing costs Agreed and also on others comments on the disproportionate sentence. The whole police and media response since the day after the game has been way OTT. Look at the sentinel and it seems they have been present at virtually every arrest with a snapper there. Will there be a similar response to incidents on black eye Friday tomorrow?? Mugshots, daily bulletins etc, I doubt it. Football fans have always been easy target for the plod. First derby game in 17 years seriously what did they think was going to happen?? Accepted that the vandalism went a bit far but the actual trouble was pretty tame compared to some games in the 90s but you wouldn't think that from the still daily reports in the sentinel. I worry about the future of football it's already too sanitised. Every day you hear statements xxx club don't tolerate this are committed to diversity, inclusivity blah blah blah. What end game do they want people sitting nicely in a ground without standing, shouting or singing. Does every song need to be passed by the club's PC department before it can be sung. Football has always had an edge it's needed it's what makes the game special. An 'edge' is one thing, smashing up toilets and ripping seats up is just want, embarrassing caveman behaviour. Absolutely no one of any note is calling for the singing to stop.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Dec 20, 2018 23:17:31 GMT
As I made clear on the thread "Tuesday's legacy" I have no sympathy whatever for those who engaged in violent behaviour at Vale Park, and they must expect the judicial consequences of their awful behaviour. However, assuming that there is nothing more to it than is said in this report, to call this sentence extreme seems an understatement. It is not clear to me from this report under what powers the police issued the instruction they did. He pleaded guilty so one cannot argue with the conviction, although if all he said was "f**ck off", even his plea seems surprising, since the charge requires that his behaviour would cause alarm or distress. The legal requirement for a banning order is that it is necessary to prevent future disorder, and there is apparently no suggestion that he was involved in the disorder at the ground, as he couldn't have been because he had been arrested long before that started. I am always wary of making judgements based on press reports, but unless some very significant information has been excluded from the report, a banning order does not appear justified.
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Post by stantheman on Dec 21, 2018 23:21:34 GMT
It was a bit unnecessary to go to Newcastle College and arrest 2 x 17 year old lads. The Police would have known their names/addresses and could have given them an early knock at home.
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Post by nott1 on Dec 22, 2018 9:36:10 GMT
It was a bit unnecessary to go to Newcastle College and arrest 2 x 17 year old lads. The Police would have known their names/addresses and could have given them an early knock at home. Serves the little turds right!
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Post by Pedropotter on Dec 22, 2018 9:40:58 GMT
It was a bit unnecessary to go to Newcastle College and arrest 2 x 17 year old lads. The Police would have known their names/addresses and could have given them an early knock at home. Serves the little turds right! Spot on!
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Post by littlecrouchy on Dec 27, 2018 12:57:48 GMT
I think one of them is Jack Nicholson!
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Post by littlecrouchy on Dec 27, 2018 13:04:52 GMT
I think one of them is Jack Nicholson! I am on this pic and have just been informed by the police, after I contacted them, that they have reviewed cctv and that it wasn't me that was responcible for throwing a chair. All charges are dropped against me. The reason for this post is that we should remember that we are all innocent until proven guilty and not all thugs just because we are wanted for questioning. I am quite laid back and my family and friends know me well enough to know that I had done nothing but it could have been a lot different for someone of a different mindset. Please just think before condeming someone. Have a good un.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Dec 27, 2018 15:24:41 GMT
I think one of them is Jack Nicholson! I am on this pic and have just been informed by the police, after I contacted them, that they have reviewed cctv and that it wasn't me that was responcible for throwing a chair. All charges are dropped against me. The reason for this post is that we should remember that we are all innocent until proven guilty and not all thugs just because we are wanted for questioning. I am quite laid back and my family and friends know me well enough to know that I had done nothing but it could have been a lot different for someone of a different mindset. Please just think before condeming someone. Have a good un. Are you Jack Nicholson?
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Post by stantheman on Dec 27, 2018 18:54:57 GMT
I think one of them is Jack Nicholson! I am on this pic and have just been informed by the police, after I contacted them, that they have reviewed cctv and that it wasn't me that was responcible for throwing a chair. All charges are dropped against me. The reason for this post is that we should remember that we are all innocent until proven guilty and not all thugs just because we are wanted for questioning. I am quite laid back and my family and friends know me well enough to know that I had done nothing but it could have been a lot different for someone of a different mindset. Please just think before condeming someone. Have a good un. It just makes you wonder how many other people in the photos produced actually didnt do anything wrong? It just looks good when the Police come up with a pretty montage. Glad to hear that you were able to clear your name.
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Post by littlecrouchy on Dec 31, 2018 15:34:14 GMT
I am on this pic and have just been informed by the police, after I contacted them, that they have reviewed cctv and that it wasn't me that was responcible for throwing a chair. All charges are dropped against me. The reason for this post is that we should remember that we are all innocent until proven guilty and not all thugs just because we are wanted for questioning. I am quite laid back and my family and friends know me well enough to know that I had done nothing but it could have been a lot different for someone of a different mindset. Please just think before condeming someone. Have a good un. Are you Jack Nicholson? Lol. No mate.
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