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Post by rawli on Dec 3, 2018 11:13:10 GMT
No chance. They don't have the British manager proviso when they are searching.
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Post by rawli on Dec 3, 2018 11:15:37 GMT
Quite funny that losing to United is enough to get you sacked these days. They didn't even lose either. Strange timing. You wouldn't want to give your new manager games against Man Utd and Tottenham. Could see this a mile off.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 3, 2018 11:16:52 GMT
Wonder if Tone might be tempted, he lives on the South Coast doesn't he ? And let's face, Saints are not going down even if they had Mr Blobby in charge so he'd be back in the big time for one last hurrah.
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Post by rawli on Dec 3, 2018 11:16:55 GMT
Hope he ends up bankrupt and drinking his own piss in some grotty town centre somewhere. Wanker. He owns the bits of the north west that Robbie Fowler doesn't so no chance of that.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Dec 3, 2018 11:19:13 GMT
Don't understand why so much aminosity towards our former manager? I take no pleasure in his demise. Like Tony pulis I prefer to look back on the good times. Some of the football we played under mh was the best football I have seen in 40 years of supporting Stoke. How can anyone forget that festive season when we took apart man City and man utd plus a thrilling 43 win at Everton. He also brought in players like arnie. Bojan. Shaq players who you would get you excited to watch. And I still stand by this if we hadn't of sacked Mark Hughes we would still be playing premiership football. That festive season is forever tarnished by the fact that within 2 months he'd scrapped the system before it had a proper chance to flourish. That's the real tragedy, he had it and he shat himself. He would gradually phase Bojan out of the team (criminal, we were 9th in the PL when he last played back to back) alienate Arnautovic and bring in terrible, simply terrible players to replace the ageing Pulis core, whilst relying on Mame Biram Diouf to play RWB, and throwing Crouch up front for percentages. This decline continued for the next 2 years, where he continually ignored growing problems with the squad and the defence. We were left with a squad not fit for purpose, full of people who didn't care about the club and made apathy the club's ethos. Yes he brought in Shaq, Arnie and Bojan....he also brought in Kevin Wimmer, Imbula, Jese, Fletcher, Wilfried Bony, Berahino (before his apparent rebirth this year), Phillip Wollscheid....you can go on. He did provide some stunning football, but he damaged this club and it's going to take us some years to recover...that is not a crime I can forgive easily. We wouldn't have stayed up under Mark Hughes, the man has won 3 league games in a Calendar year and I think 8 out of 44 since the start of 17/18...what evidence suggests he would have kept us up?
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Post by mrred on Dec 3, 2018 11:20:24 GMT
Quite funny that losing to United is enough to get you sacked these days. they drew Thanks. Edited.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 3, 2018 11:30:08 GMT
Made my day this has, although I did want him to get relegated.
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Post by Gifton on Dec 3, 2018 11:35:00 GMT
Don't understand why so much aminosity towards our former manager? I take no pleasure in his demise. Like Tony pulis I prefer to look back on the good times. Some of the football we played under mh was the best football I have seen in 40 years of supporting Stoke. How can anyone forget that festive season when we took apart man City and man utd plus a thrilling 43 win at Everton. He also brought in players like arnie. Bojan. Shaq players who you would get you excited to watch. And I still stand by this if we hadn't of sacked Mark Hughes we would still be playing premiership football. You know what, I actually agree. Hughes did give us some good times, great times. I guess the spite and anger should be reserved for those who allowed him to outstay his welcome. The only reason we hate Hughes so much is because things got so bad during those last 18 months. Watching it all fall apart and listening to his bullshit excuses every week completely tarnished the memory of the good times. I despised his arrogance at the time but I guess that arrogance was based on having the unwavering confidence of the board. What club keeps a failing manager in a job for 18 months? I'm all for loyalty but it's ridiculous! You can't really blame Hughes for sticking it out. The buck has to stop with the family and the chuckle brothers.
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Post by shangamuzo on Dec 3, 2018 11:36:37 GMT
Made my day this has, although I did want him to get relegated. Still able to say he "doesn't do relegation".
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Dec 3, 2018 11:37:07 GMT
QSF for the next manager, obvious innit.
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Post by lstokie on Dec 3, 2018 11:49:41 GMT
Anyone tweeted Bowen's twat son yet? He's a right cretin, I imagine he'll be off twitter until Southampton next lose now the little gobsh**e. Out of the loop with this one. Can you give an overview?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2018 11:52:36 GMT
Breaking news Southampton have sacked Hughes hopefully thats him finished forever If it is "him finished" he will retire with his record intact. Never been relegated.
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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Dec 3, 2018 11:53:22 GMT
He's a right cretin, I imagine he'll be off twitter until Southampton next lose now the little gobsh**e. Out of the loop with this one. Can you give an overview? He was tweeting about our demise because he was bitter when we finally sacked his dad. Think he tweeted "hahahahahahaha" when relegation was confirmed.
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 3, 2018 11:54:06 GMT
The news actually makes me feel sad, not that I have any sympathy for Hughes, it just emphasises to me how badly our club is being run.
Southampton have acted decisively, timely, and it would not surprise me if they make an appointment no one was expecting.
Hughes will have a break and then get a nice little earner in the new year to save someone else from relegation. He saved QPR and Southampton and he will always argue they and Stoke would not have got relegated had he stayed in charge as he can prove he saved two of them. The irony is he was get more points per game than Lambert achieved with us last season, and whilst we still might have suffered some more 3 and 4 goal drubbings earlier this year, he might have also won the extra 2 games (Watford, Burnley, Palace?) and avoided relegation.
Hughes record at Stoke will go down in history as one of the all-time best managers at Stoke (I'm aware the young generation are not interested in history) after Waddington, Pulis, McGrory, & Durban. I never thought I would ever see players like Bojan, Shaqiri and Arni at Stoke, which i believe is down to Hughes
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2018 11:54:24 GMT
If QSF does get the job, expect him to be sacked before the season is over.
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Post by xchpotter on Dec 3, 2018 12:01:04 GMT
Bollocks....needed him to stay longer to ensure Saints go down. They’ve now got an excellent chance of staying up. Super pissed off.
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Post by 11wilkosinateam on Dec 3, 2018 12:01:55 GMT
I hope they get all the fans hopes up with talk of QSF, piss around penny pinching and end up with Alex Niel
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Dec 3, 2018 12:08:47 GMT
The news actually makes me feel sad, not that I have any sympathy for Hughes, it just emphasises to me how badly our club is being run. Southampton have acted decisively, timely, and it would not surprise me if they make an appointment no one was expecting. Hughes will have a break and then get a nice little earner in the new year to save someone else from relegation. He saved QPR and Southampton and he will always argue they and Stoke would not have got relegated had he stayed in charge as he can prove he saved two of them. The irony is he was get more points per game than Lambert achieved with us last season, and whilst we still might have suffered some more 3 and 4 goal drubbings earlier this year, he might have also won the extra 2 games (Watford, Burnley, Palace?) and avoided relegation. Hughes record at Stoke will go down in history as one of the all-time best managers at Stoke (I'm aware the young generation are not interested in history) after Waddington, Pulis, McGrory, & Durban. I never thought I would ever see players like Bojan, Shaqiri and Arni at Stoke, which i believe is down to Hughes Sorry chap I can't let that one go unchallenged. Hughes was NOT one of our all time best managers. He won us neither promotion nor silverware. Yes there was a period of attractive football but there was also a period of relentless thwackings against pretty much anyone in the top 6. Hughes came into the club at the time that it was receiving the most generous funding in it's entire history and attached a few sparkling baubles to a solidly grown Christmas Tree. When that tree started to rot knew nothing about how to fix it. A great manager can put together more than one squad (as amongst your "greats" Pulis did for survival, promotion, and survival a division up, and Waddington did for the 60's and again for the 70's). Hughes hasn't got a clue how to do that as he's shown at more places than Stoke.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Dec 3, 2018 12:10:19 GMT
I dont understand all the distain for Hughes? Genuine question. OK he was shite for us for 12-18 months but he did have the team playing some fantastic stuff and some great moments for the fans.
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Post by xchpotter on Dec 3, 2018 12:16:43 GMT
Amazing what a competent Chairman and board can actually do. Are you watching Stoke? Unless the Saints board are now daft enough to appoint someone like Lambert or worse still Rowett they will stay up easily. Lessons learned eh.
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Post by ProctorDre on Dec 3, 2018 12:18:55 GMT
Amazing what a competent Chairman and board can actually do. Are you watching Stoke? Unless the Saints board are now daft enough to appoint someone like Lambert or worse still Rowett they will stay up easily. Lessons learned eh. I get the point you're trying to make in that they got rid of him now, but that same board you're praising also gave Hughes a job after him giving us a complete shit show for the best part of 2 years. I wouldn't really say that's competent.
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Post by lordb on Dec 3, 2018 12:21:57 GMT
Mark Hughes is unique as a Stoke manager in my view because he is simultaneously one of the best & worst managers we have ever had.
Think he's finished as a top flight manager now (unless he gets a side promoted).
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Dec 3, 2018 12:22:56 GMT
Amazing what a competent Chairman and board can actually do. Are you watching Stoke? Unless the Saints board are now daft enough to appoint someone like Lambert or worse still Rowett they will stay up easily. Lessons learned eh. I get the point you're trying to make in that they got rid of him now, but that same board you're praising also gave Hughes a job after him giving us a complete shit show for the best part of 2 years. I wouldn't really say that's competent. Absolutely, I wouldn't be so quick to lavish praise onto a board that hired him after such a poor spell only to sack him 11 months later. I bet Hughes has made a right bank full. Two firings in under a year. That's some pay out that.
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Post by mozzer on Dec 3, 2018 12:24:01 GMT
What a complete crock of crap
A total Knee jerk reaction by Southampton,
I know that Mark could have steered them out of trouble as he is a genius of a manager with tactics, substitutions and transfers.
Southampton, shame on you making a decision so ruthlessly you should have at least waited until January and with only a week to go in the transfer market,
"I really do not see what all the fuss is about"
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Post by PotterLog on Dec 3, 2018 12:34:31 GMT
Mark Hughes is unique as a Stoke manager in my view because he is simultaneously one of the best & worst managers we have ever had. Think he's finished as a top flight manager now (unless he gets a side promoted). He’s had a good run of it if he is. He’s had a career in the top flight that the vast majority of managers could only dream of.
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Post by kronkie on Dec 3, 2018 12:45:37 GMT
A saints mate of mine reckons it's going to be Ralph Hasenhuttl, I've never heard of him but that's the word on the street.
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Post by cousindupree on Dec 3, 2018 12:47:41 GMT
It was a poor appointment by a Southampton board who have made some pretty decent managerial appointments in the last few years...Puel Koeman Pochettino for example.Why they went for a manager clearly in decline just shows that other boards get it wrong sometimes. However you can be sure they won't make a Paul Lambert appointment (I still shake my head in disbelief that he was all we could some up with). As for the bile on here towards Hughes, it's a sad by-product of the online social media age that gives such comments a platform. For me I choose to remember Hughes as a manager who delivered the best football I've seen from SCFC since the waddo years and put such gems as Arnie Shaq and Bojan in the red and white stripes. Clearly he needed replacing way before he was but that's not Hughes's fault. And in the line of blame for our demise he should take equal blame alongside a dithering board, a woeful recruitment team and Lambert who couldn't achieve 3/4 wins to keep us up. As for Hughes, I think he is a football man through and through and would want to stay in the game.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2018 12:48:25 GMT
Mark Hughes is unique as a Stoke manager in my view because he is simultaneously one of the best & worst managers we have ever had. Think he's finished as a top flight manager now (unless he gets a side promoted). He’s had a good run of it if he is. He’s had a career in the top flight that the vast majority of managers could only dream of. Agree. It happens to all but an elite few managers to be fair, most end their career on a sacking(s) it’s the nature of the beast....
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 3, 2018 12:52:48 GMT
At least Southampton have been decisive enough to take action and sack him far enough ahead of the January window rather than dither like we did. Still, not bad for Hughes, 6 months into a 3 year contract - nice pay off coming - yet again !! Hopefully he won't get chance to ruin another club. I can think if one or two clubs I'd be very happy for him to manage..
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2018 12:53:37 GMT
The news actually makes me feel sad, not that I have any sympathy for Hughes, it just emphasises to me how badly our club is being run. Southampton have acted decisively, timely, and it would not surprise me if they make an appointment no one was expecting. Hughes will have a break and then get a nice little earner in the new year to save someone else from relegation. He saved QPR and Southampton and he will always argue they and Stoke would not have got relegated had he stayed in charge as he can prove he saved two of them. The irony is he was get more points per game than Lambert achieved with us last season, and whilst we still might have suffered some more 3 and 4 goal drubbings earlier this year, he might have also won the extra 2 games (Watford, Burnley, Palace?) and avoided relegation. Hughes record at Stoke will go down in history as one of the all-time best managers at Stoke (I'm aware the young generation are not interested in history) after Waddington, Pulis, McGrory, & Durban. I never thought I would ever see players like Bojan, Shaqiri and Arni at Stoke, which i believe is down to Hughes Sorry chap I can't let that one go unchallenged. Hughes was NOT one of our all time best managers. He won us neither promotion nor silverware. Yes there was a period of attractive football but there was also a period of relentless thwackings against pretty much anyone in the top 6. Hughes came into the club at the time that it was receiving the most generous funding in it's entire history and attached a few sparkling baubles to a solidly grown Christmas Tree. When that tree started to rot knew nothing about how to fix it. A great manager can put together more than one squad (as amongst your "greats" Pulis did for survival, promotion, and survival a division up, and Waddington did for the 60's and again for the 70's). Hughes hasn't got a clue how to do that as he's shown at more places than Stoke. All fair points, but I don’t think it can go unmentioned that when we needed to push on to the next level, the transfer team failed to deliver on quite a few players that would have improved us massively.....
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