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Post by collo68 on Nov 30, 2018 11:24:19 GMT
I only wish we had some of those team talks now to get the players fired up. Obviously no one wants to break anyone’s leg but the spirit and togetherness is what we all enjoy as per Wednesday evening
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Post by metalhead on Nov 30, 2018 11:34:36 GMT
“I was there when Ryan Shawcross broke Ramsey’s leg” Except it was snapping before any contact had even been made, with any luck Ryan goes after this mouthy cunt and completely rinses him in the courtroom coming out with utter bollocks like that. How fucking desperate for attention, and indeed money, do you have to be to put together such a desperate, look at me article based on ONE game that took place EIGHT YEARS ago. See yourself off a high building Kitson you gobshite. It's the camera angle mate. If there's any defence of Ryan (and there's not much) it's that the stoods of Ramsey's boot are deeply planted and that meant there was no give at all. Had they been slightly less planted, he goes 6ft in the air and wakes up with a bruise. His leg definitely wasn't broken before Shawcross hit it though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 11:37:10 GMT
The best solution to Kitson's insane ramblings, is to not buy the Scum.
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Post by Davef on Nov 30, 2018 11:38:13 GMT
I doubt if TP will care what Kitson claims. Of course TP fired us up against teams like Arsenal - just like a lot of other managers of mid/lower half of the table teams. Shawcross is the person who have been maligned by this article. I was there that day and no way did Shawcross set out to injure Ramsey nor was he out of control in any way. In fact there would have been no incident if the ref had blown up for a foul against Bendtner who pulled Shawcross back and was responsible for him losing the ball just before the Ramsey incident. If Kitson could see so much from the bench that day, I'm surprised he didn't comment on the player who, out of all 22 on the pitch, WAS deliberately trying to hurt someone - namely Fabregas who as I recall deliberately raked the achilles of one of our players - was it Pugh? That was about the only really cynical foul of the game. If Stoke were fired up to go out and injure Arsenal players, then it wouldn't have taken us 66 minutes to do so. As I said, prior to the Ramsey incident, no Stoke player had been booked. No Stoke player was booked in the 2-0 defeat at the Emirates earlier that season and no Stoke player was booked when we beat them 3-1 in the FA Cup a few weeks prior to the league game at the Brit.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 30, 2018 11:44:05 GMT
I doubt if TP will care what Kitson claims. Of course TP fired us up against teams like Arsenal - just like a lot of other managers of mid/lower half of the table teams. Shawcross is the person who have been maligned by this article. I was there that day and no way did Shawcross set out to injure Ramsey nor was he out of control in any way. In fact there would have been no incident if the ref had blown up for a foul against Bendtner who pulled Shawcross back and was responsible for him losing the ball just before the Ramsey incident. If Kitson could see so much from the bench that day, I'm surprised he didn't comment on the player who, out of all 22 on the pitch, WAS deliberately trying to hurt someone - namely Fabregas who as I recall deliberately raked the achilles of one of our players - was it Pugh? That was about the only really cynical foul of the game. If Stoke were fired up to go out and injure Arsenal players, then it wouldn't have taken us 66 minutes to do so. As I said, prior to the Ramsey incident, no Stoke player had been booked. No Stoke player was booked in the 2-0 defeat at the Emirates earlier that season and no Stoke player was booked when we beat them 3-1 in the FA Cup a few weeks prior to the league game at the Brit. I wasn't intending to suggest that TP had us fired up to injure Arsenal players - sorry if it came over that way. To my mind he did fire us up so that each player gave 100% for every minute of the game against the top teams. I suspect that, after that type of game, our players would have burned off more physical and mental energy than they would in most other games. But no way did our players ever seem intent on injuring the opposition.
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Post by Gods on Nov 30, 2018 11:47:13 GMT
I doubt if TP will care what Kitson claims. Of course TP fired us up against teams like Arsenal - just like a lot of other managers of mid/lower half of the table teams. Shawcross is the person who have been maligned by this article. I was there that day and no way did Shawcross set out to injure Ramsey nor was he out of control in any way. In fact there would have been no incident if the ref had blown up for a foul against Bendtner who pulled Shawcross back and was responsible for him losing the ball just before the Ramsey incident. If Kitson could see so much from the bench that day, I'm surprised he didn't comment on the player who, out of all 22 on the pitch, WAS deliberately trying to hurt someone - namely Fabregas who as I recall deliberately raked the achilles of one of our players - was it Pugh? That was about the only really cynical foul of the game. If Stoke were fired up to go out and injure Arsenal players, then it wouldn't have taken us 66 minutes to do so. As I said, prior to the Ramsey incident, no Stoke player had been booked. No Stoke player was booked in the 2-0 defeat at the Emirates earlier that season and no Stoke player was booked when we beat them 3-1 in the FA Cup a few weeks prior to the league game at the Brit. Point well made. It does expose the article for the crock of made up shit that it is. Another feed in to the folklore which now surrounds this fixture which is sadly no longer on the calendar.
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Post by werrington on Nov 30, 2018 11:48:56 GMT
I never minded Kitson thought he was short changed by many given the role he was often asked to play but that’s bollocks , I was no Pulis fan but we weren’t pumped up at all it’s a tired weary lazy myth,we were just very competitive and did it well especially at home, and double that with the fact he’s now working for that rag he can fuck off
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Post by Davef on Nov 30, 2018 11:49:19 GMT
If Stoke were fired up to go out and injure Arsenal players, then it wouldn't have taken us 66 minutes to do so. As I said, prior to the Ramsey incident, no Stoke player had been booked. No Stoke player was booked in the 2-0 defeat at the Emirates earlier that season and no Stoke player was booked when we beat them 3-1 in the FA Cup a few weeks prior to the league game at the Brit. I wasn't intending to suggest that TP had us fired up to injure Arsenal players - sorry if it came over that way. To my mind he did fire us up so that each player gave 100% for every minute of the game against the top teams. I suspect that, after that type of game, our players would have burned off more physical and mental energy than they would in most other games. But no way did our players ever seem intent on injuring the opposition. I'm with you. It was just an observation about Kitson's (and Arsenal's manager and their fans') opinion.
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Post by milky on Nov 30, 2018 11:56:34 GMT
Lets face it Tone could have Kitson for breakfast then spit out the waste ( most of it )
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 11:56:45 GMT
Why on earth has this been brought up now? Wenger's gone We've been relegated Ramsey recovered and is likely to be going to some other big club Pulis has gone Kitson left ages ago .... and it's in the sun. If we do meet again, i'm pretty sure it'll be a lot more beige than the media want it to be, as most of the protagonists won't be there, and Shawcross is no longer a guaranteed starter. Errr...because Dave Kitson's written about it in a national newspaper rag. Awful redtop. The Sun’s a shit newspaper as well.....
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Post by plymouthpotter4 on Nov 30, 2018 11:57:21 GMT
I've been listening to The Secret Footballer's last book whilst I've been running. He tells this exact tale, complete with the opposition manager looking directly at him as if to say "I didn't think you'd be part of this".
The only reason i doubted it was Kitson was that "TSF" keeps referring to himself as a "top player".
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Post by weasal on Nov 30, 2018 12:13:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 12:33:58 GMT
Ex-footballer in desperate bid for media attention shocker 😬 Replace "ex footballer" with......... The Sun! Less of a newspaper and more of an emotive, opinion based paper 💩
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 12:37:40 GMT
I've been listening to The Secret Footballer's last book whilst I've been running. He tells this exact tale, complete with the opposition manager looking directly at him as if to say "I didn't think you'd be part of this". The only reason i doubted it was Kitson was that "TSF" keeps referring to himself as a "top player". I think you'll find he's quoting extracts from his book in his Sun column so no surprise it's the same 😊
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Post by scfc75 on Nov 30, 2018 12:39:39 GMT
Lets face it Tone could have Kitson for breakfast then spit out the waste ( most of it ) I reckon he’d be gritty and taste like aniseed. Useless bastard can’t even taste good.
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Post by redwhite on Nov 30, 2018 12:41:14 GMT
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Post by ladyinred on Nov 30, 2018 13:25:28 GMT
The entire article is based on nothing.
Kitson is saying that Pulis had his player's extra fired up for this one, good it was always our biggest home game in the PL.
There is no evidence that the players were TOO fired up or crossed any line.
The Ramsey incident was the result of a tackle that was fractionally late, yes it broke his leg, yes it was a foul - a red card, probably. However, it was not out of control, it wasn't the tackle of somebody that had been wound up to breaking point by his manager.
And as for all that guff about a part of him dying inside - seriously, GET A GRIP
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Post by thevoid on Nov 30, 2018 13:29:21 GMT
A part of him died inside?
It's a shame it didn't spread to his hair follicles, he'd be better off bald.
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Post by WhyDelilah on Nov 30, 2018 13:32:30 GMT
People won't like this but what he says is true. Is it bollocks. It's completely sensationalised horseshit, fitting for the media outlet it has been published in. Do we really need to go over old ground yet again? Ryan didn't set out to break his leg. That much is abundantly clear. He didn't lunge in with a two footer. It wasn't excessive force. It was a slightly late challenge, caused by his shirt being pulled in the build up. It wasn't intentional and the rest of Kitson's article is complete arsegravy. The blokes a fucking wet lettuce. "Lads, don't forget to be aggressive in the tackle, dominate your man"....That was the message.... And what the fuck is wrong with that message?! That is exactly what gets said in most football dressing rooms up and down the country at all levels of the game. It's a highly competitive, contact sport. Not a game of fucking chess. I suspect Kitson's career was a complete fucking washout because he hasn't got the bollocks or the backbone to make anything more from it. What a fucking weapon he is. And a fucking big girls blouse too. Shithouse.
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Post by localloser on Nov 30, 2018 13:40:27 GMT
And if Kitson and his masters see this thread they will be jizzing themselves - it's had the desired effect. people are talking about it.
Admin - shitbin the thread down now - don't give him - or the "paper" the satisfaction.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Nov 30, 2018 13:42:21 GMT
.....and still it gets dragged up in the gutter press - even when we aren't in the fucking Prem....!!!
A failed no-mark still trying to wring every last drop of cash from his very very brief spell in the limelight - so sad........
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Post by rambler on Nov 30, 2018 13:43:07 GMT
Ginger c**t needs to keep his mouth shut, desperate little rat
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Post by robrigo on Nov 30, 2018 14:20:03 GMT
A part of him died inside? It's a shame it didn't spread to his hair follicles, he'd be better off bald. This little golden nugget infuriates me- it seems to be ‘look at me! Look at me!’ A part of him died- he wasn’t even on the pitch! Two players on that day have come back to have successful football careers. The two that were most affected. Ramsey lost a year of his career and recovered. Shawcross made the tackle, got full pelters from the press and recovered at club level. International level is another story. I’m fed up of hearing about that day. I bet Ryan and Ramsey are too. And then Kitson drags it all up again to fill column inches in the Sun. Like my arse Dave, like my arse!
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Post by petershiltonsmini on Nov 30, 2018 14:34:21 GMT
For those of us going Reading tomorrow please can we get a ‘Dave Kitson you’re a wanker’ song going?! Perfect that it’s Reading as well Yes do this it's the only recognition the twat deserves
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 16:08:33 GMT
He's one of those blokes that you can tell is a massive cunt just by looking at them.
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Post by rockthecity on Nov 30, 2018 16:11:22 GMT
What a bellend!!! So bitter!
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 30, 2018 16:24:17 GMT
Remember when he whined about the grief he thought he got because he was ginger? Actually Dave it’s fuck all to do with the colour of your hair. It’s because you’re a total and utter thundering c*#t.
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Post by podolipotter on Nov 30, 2018 16:29:52 GMT
Clearly he hasn’t got much in his locker if that’s the best he can fill his newspaper column with. Just trying to pander to the prejudices of the Arsenal public - rather pathetic. "his newspaper???? column??? That rag is not a newspaper.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Nov 30, 2018 16:46:18 GMT
I’m amazed he’s got a column. I knew the sun was shit, but why are they scraping round using a seemingly bang average ex player with a personality bypass?
There are literally hundreds of ex pros about with actual interesting stories and personalities.
Didn’t read the article, won’t read that rag.
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Post by tony1234 on Nov 30, 2018 17:28:13 GMT
Clearly, people still read the Sun for the tits after all.
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