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Post by thevoid on Oct 21, 2020 16:00:03 GMT
Stand by for the loonies to lecture you on the oppression of minorities and civil liberty infringements. Some people don't mind barbaric murder wont condem it and accuse those that do. Was reading today about a Sri Lankan man here in the UK, stabbed someone 21 times, he's won his case to stay in the UK as it would be against his human rights to be deported. UK lawyers getting rich off us tax payers as he got legal aid, when us in the UK can hardly get it. I saw that. I wasn't aware there was a war in Sri Lanka....
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Oct 21, 2020 20:41:02 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 21, 2020 20:41:02 GMT
Provocation or defiance?
For me making a statement about free speech.
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Oct 21, 2020 21:25:03 GMT
Post by mermaidsal on Oct 21, 2020 21:25:03 GMT
The 'woke elite' have cultural power. They have this because they know and understand useful stuff about how the world works because they've taken the trouble to learn it. They shape our world often, except when bonehead populists work on people to overthrow a culture led by ideas and understanding - Trump, Bolsonaro, to an extent Johnson (who's really just an old school charlatan) etc. The oligarchs etc have very little cultural power. They just have money. They don't influence the way ordinary people live except to make some of them greedy. The 'woke' causes are indicators of a free, liberal, inclusive culture. Is there some reason you don't want to live in a culture like that? We could probably do a whip round for a one-way ticket to Alabama or Ukraine if that would work better for you? Sorry? So you're suggesting you actually want to live in a world of woke, rich white kids being seen to be doing good, but not actually doing good? Wow. Edit: I assume your post is a joke? The Islington elite have cultural power because they understand the way the world works? That's a seriously dumb suggestion. No, not joking remotely. I'd be very happy indeed to live in a world influenced by empowered LGBT+, BAME, disabled and working class voices. What Islington has to do with that I'm not sure, have you ever lived there, do you know anything about it other than what you've read??
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Oct 22, 2020 5:07:34 GMT
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Post by vokeswagen on Oct 22, 2020 5:07:34 GMT
Well, if governments continue to have this soft hand approach to crime then it's hardly surprising that fear, frustration and anger will be on the rise. When these things happen and nothing much gets done about it then it's normal. I think it's about time governments actually employed actions and not just words. Step up surveillance, seize control of the internet and dissemination of hate materials. If you've got nothing to hide then you've got nothing to worry about. Stand by for the loonies to lecture you on the oppression of minorities and civil liberty infringements. Some people don't mind barbaric murder wont condem it and accuse those that do. A classic Franklin preemptive strawman, pre-accusing a group of imaginary people who haven’t said or done anything. Another great day’s policing, officer
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Oct 29, 2020 9:42:26 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 29, 2020 9:42:26 GMT
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Post by bigvern on Oct 29, 2020 9:49:05 GMT
Absolutely bonkers. All in the name of something that is on a par with the tooth fairy and santa claus.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 29, 2020 10:04:35 GMT
Absolutely bonkers. All in the name of something that is on a par with the tooth fairy and santa claus. And the total unacceptance that religion/Islam can be discussed....as an academic exercise or just casually ...to me it makes a mockery of " God/Allah". What sort of God treats his/ her creation in that way.
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Post by franklin on Oct 29, 2020 10:24:44 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 29, 2020 11:23:16 GMT
Sick barbaric heathens, followers of a religion that is not compatible with Western culture, if they hate our culture why do they choose to live amongst us ?
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 29, 2020 11:41:51 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 29, 2020 11:44:45 GMT
Tolerance and acceptance: From the link....... I've an Indian friend who, when he was seven ,moved with his family from India to England, where he was enrolled at a new school. On his first day he was asked to speak to the class about a saint from his Hindu tradition. Enthusiastically he began to tell the story of the saint called Ishu, who was born in a cowshed, was visited by three holy men, performed many amazing miracles, walked on water and spoke a wonderful sermon on a mountain. Of course, he was telling the story of Christ. But he was bewildered to hear that the teacher laid claim to Ishu for herself and her friends and she let him know that this was her Lord and her story, not his. He was very upset about this, because Ishu's tale was his favourite story. You see, in a sense, Hindus don't really see Jesus as a Christian at all. (Of course Jesus didn't either, because the term wasn't used during His lifetime.) In Hindu thought, church or temple membership or belief is not as significant as spiritual practice, which in Sanskrit is called sadhana. As there is no Church of Hinduism, everyone holds their own spiritual and philosophical opinions. It is difficult then to understand someone's spirituality simply by looking at their religious trappings. So, in India it is more common to hear someone ask, "What is your sadhana (practice)?" than, "What do you believe?" Then when we ask how we can see spirituality in Hindus, the answer comes: by behaviour and practice. We can ask are we humble, are we tolerant and are we non-violent? Can we control our senses and our mind? Are we aware of others' suffering and are we willing to give up our comfort to help them? Looking at these criteria Jesus measures up as a Sadhu, a holy man. He preached a universal message, love of God and love of brother, which was beyond any sectarianism or selfishness. Jesus was one of those people who appealed from heart to heart, and that's what makes him such a good Hindu Saint. BBC - Religions - Hinduism: Jesus in Hinduism www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/hinduism/beliefs/jesus_1.shtml#:~:text=You%20see%2C%20in%20a%20sense,in%20Sanskrit%20is%20called%20sadhana.
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Post by thevoid on Oct 29, 2020 11:46:57 GMT
I called this. Just days after Erdogan's speech, et voila.
This won't help Turkey's negotiations to join the EU at all, as the French will see these new attacks as being the result of Erdogan's inflammatory comments.
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Oct 29, 2020 21:09:29 GMT
Post by The Drunken Communist on Oct 29, 2020 21:09:29 GMT
Eight posts. I think that's a new record.
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Oct 29, 2020 21:28:27 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 29, 2020 21:28:27 GMT
Eight posts. I think that's a new record. Well done. I haven't a clue what you are talking about DC ,but well done. I almost always find myself in agreement with you.
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Post by Boothen on Oct 29, 2020 21:30:54 GMT
It's sad to say but attacks like this are just going to get more and more common, because this is what happens when you allow a barbaric, medieval ideology that is incompatible with a civilised Western society to get a foothold and fester in your country. Islam isn't going to change, that much is pretty damn obvious, so if we want an end to attacks like this then there has got to be some pretty radical action taken.
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Oct 30, 2020 1:24:45 GMT
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Post by maninasuitcase on Oct 30, 2020 1:24:45 GMT
Absolutely bonkers. All in the name of something that is on a par with the tooth fairy and santa claus. And the total unacceptance that religion/Islam can be discussed....as an academic exercise or just casually ...to me it makes a mockery of " God/Allah". What sort of God treats his/ her creation in that way. There is no God, just a world run by mad men reciting words of other mad men from centuries ago. A story that has been changed and manipulated to fit mans agenda throughout the ages. Where most people have moved away from these words, there are others who live by them and from that we see the conflict of modern humanity today. While many couldnt give 2 shits about caricatures of deities there are others who are deeply offended. Until man moves away for such religious beliefs we will never stop the killing, and from that we are forced to pick a side in the conflict to defend our way of life. The question is which side will we, as humams, choose.....
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Oct 30, 2020 7:07:54 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 30, 2020 7:07:54 GMT
Eight posts. I think that's a new record. I've got it now
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Post by foster on Oct 30, 2020 8:20:37 GMT
Eight posts. I think that's a new record. I've got it now I see that it's 8 posts. But I don't get the meaning behind it. Anyway, Macron (and all European leaders) need to get a grip on the situation and stamp down hard on radicals and anyone caught downloading, distributing or in possession of hate material, or they're going to start losing public support. I honestly couldn't care less if it hurts peoples feelings to be stopped and searched, or to be profiled, or to give up a little privacy. I'd rather that then see these kind of events occurring. The safety of the resident population is paramount, and all measures necessary should be taken to protect them.
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Oct 30, 2020 8:22:13 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 30, 2020 8:22:13 GMT
I see that it's 8 posts. But I don't get the meaning behind it. Anyway, Macron (and all European leaders) need to get a grip on the situation and stamp down hard on radicals and anyone caught downloading, distributing or in possession of hate material, or they're going to start losing public support. I honestly couldn't care less if it hurts peoples feelings to be stopped and searched, or to be profiled, or to give up a little privacy. I'd rather that then see these kind of events occurring. The safety of the resident population is paramount, and all measures necessary should be taken to protect them. About the stabbing, to that point....ie not many
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Oct 30, 2020 18:58:36 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 30, 2020 18:58:36 GMT
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Oct 30, 2020 19:05:00 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 30, 2020 19:05:00 GMT
Not much of a protest about the actual murders/ beheadings...but......
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Oct 30, 2020 19:11:38 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 30, 2020 19:11:38 GMT
Not much of a protest about the actual murders/ beheadings...but...... Looks like a job for our now defunct water cannons
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Post by felonious on Oct 30, 2020 19:46:26 GMT
Not much of a protest about the actual murders/ beheadings...but...... Straight from the mosques?
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Post by dexta on Oct 30, 2020 19:56:43 GMT
Not much of a protest about the actual murders/ beheadings...but...... Straight from the mosques? wtf is happening to this country... We're fucked
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Oct 30, 2020 20:16:51 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 30, 2020 20:16:51 GMT
Just perverse standards, verging on madness
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 30, 2020 20:20:24 GMT
Just perverse standards, verging on madness Utterly despicable. Where are the police? It’s time to get the army in I’m afraid
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Post by xchpotter on Oct 30, 2020 20:37:23 GMT
Just perverse standards, verging on madness Utterly despicable. Where are the police? It’s time to get the army in I’m afraid Maybe if those flags were swopped out for Union flags, you might see a different response.😂😂
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Oct 30, 2020 20:38:59 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 30, 2020 20:38:59 GMT
Utterly despicable. Where are the police? It’s time to get the army in I’m afraid Maybe if those flags were swopped out for Union flags, you might see a different response.😂😂 Not a chance
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 30, 2020 20:53:56 GMT
Utterly despicable. Where are the police? It’s time to get the army in I’m afraid Maybe if those flags were swopped out for Union flags, you might see a different response.😂😂 Oh I’ve just thought. I take it you mean their flags? In which case DEFINITELY😳
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Oct 30, 2020 21:00:16 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 30, 2020 21:00:16 GMT
Utterly despicable. Where are the police? It’s time to get the army in I’m afraid Maybe if those flags were swopped out for Union flags, you might see a different response.😂😂 It’s not the fault of the police officers on the ground. The responsibility needs to be around Ms Dick, Mr Khan and the Government because they’re scared of upsetting the minority and being accused. Disgraceful.
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