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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 21:59:38 GMT
This can't be justified just because the culprits are acting on behalf of the state. Any other country and it would be seen as police brutality and a police state. Even if the authorities believe that the yellow vests are wrong this is no way to treat them. It's absolutely horrendous and is nothing more than just state sanctioned brutality. It's strange that there has been no criticism of these tactics from any human rights organisation, any country, and definitely not the EU (surprise, surprise !). There have been hundreds of protesters with minor injuries, countless serious injuries, and around 10 fatalities since the protests began, and yet not a word against the French Govt.
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May 6, 2019 12:09:34 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 12:09:34 GMT
This can't be justified just because the culprits are acting on behalf of the state. Any other country and it would be seen as police brutality and a police state. Even if the authorities believe that the yellow vests are wrong this is no way to treat them. It's absolutely horrendous and is nothing more than just state sanctioned brutality. It's strange that there has been no criticism of these tactics from any human rights organisation, any country, and definitely not the EU (surprise, surprise !). There have been hundreds of protesters with minor injuries, countless serious injuries, and around 10 fatalities since the protests began, and yet not a word against the French Govt. Human rights organisations including the UN have made statements and spoken out, but you don't expect our media to highlight this or criticise such disorder at the hands of a neo-liberal government do you? They'd rather help perpetuate the myth that a Venezuelan coup is what will be good for world order, not bite the hand that feeds them. Because that worked out will in Libya didn't it, but still they spout their shite and people fall for it.......
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 6, 2019 15:20:38 GMT
It's absolutely horrendous and is nothing more than just state sanctioned brutality. It's strange that there has been no criticism of these tactics from any human rights organisation, any country, and definitely not the EU (surprise, surprise !). There have been hundreds of protesters with minor injuries, countless serious injuries, and around 10 fatalities since the protests began, and yet not a word against the French Govt. Human rights organisations including the UN have made statements and spoken out, but you don't expect our media to highlight this or criticise such disorder at the hands of a neo-liberal government do you? They'd rather help perpetuate the myth that a Venezuelan coup is what will be good for world order, not bite the hand that feeds them. Because that worked out will in Libya didn't it, but still they spout their shite and people fall for it....... Where is the outcry in the House Of Commons?
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 16:44:32 GMT
Human rights organisations including the UN have made statements and spoken out, but you don't expect our media to highlight this or criticise such disorder at the hands of a neo-liberal government do you? They'd rather help perpetuate the myth that a Venezuelan coup is what will be good for world order, not bite the hand that feeds them. Because that worked out will in Libya didn't it, but still they spout their shite and people fall for it....... Where is the outcry in the House Of Commons? I agree, it's not good enough. Especially when massive hypocrite Macron keeps interfering in other countries affairs when he can't even get his own house in order.....
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 17:28:23 GMT
Yes, it's certainly not going well for Manu right now is it ? MACRON ON BRINK: French president’s party OVERTAKEN by Le Pen - shock polllinkNotice the link to the article about Frexit - as my Froggy friends have been telling me there is a growing anger (the same as in the U.K.) about France and Macron's determination to enmesh it ever deeper into the centre of the EU. Many are now wanting to leave although there is still a majority to remain at the present time. I've said previously that one of the obstacles is that the "Frexiteers" (for want of a better name) have been watching what an absolute mess Theresa May and the rest of Parliament have made of it. If things do get resolved soon over here then the Frexit movement could grow quite quickly, and the French are somewhat more adept at getting their points and protests across than we are, as has been proved with the gilets jaunes. They seem to think if the U.K. does manage to leave (as in proper Leave - WTO if you like), it could be the first domino to fall which could start to topple the EU.
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May 6, 2019 19:18:02 GMT
Post by felonious on May 6, 2019 19:18:02 GMT
Yes, it's certainly not going well for Manu right now is it ? MACRON ON BRINK: French president’s party OVERTAKEN by Le Pen - shock polllinkNotice the link to the article about Frexit - as my Froggy friends have been telling me there is a growing anger (the same as in the U.K.) about France and Macron's determination to enmesh it ever deeper into the centre of the EU. Many are now wanting to leave although there is still a majority to remain at the present time. I've said previously that one of the obstacles is that the "Frexiteers" (for want of a better name) have been watching what an absolute mess Theresa May and the rest of Parliament have made of it. If things do get resolved soon over here then the Frexit movement could grow quite quickly, and the French are somewhat more adept at getting their points and protests across than we are, as has been proved with the gilets jaunes. They seem to think if the U.K. does manage to leave (as in proper Leave - WTO if you like), it could be the first domino to fall which could start to topple the EU. I don't think the French people would tolerate what is going on over here.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 19:30:34 GMT
Yes, it's certainly not going well for Manu right now is it ? MACRON ON BRINK: French president’s party OVERTAKEN by Le Pen - shock polllinkNotice the link to the article about Frexit - as my Froggy friends have been telling me there is a growing anger (the same as in the U.K.) about France and Macron's determination to enmesh it ever deeper into the centre of the EU. Many are now wanting to leave although there is still a majority to remain at the present time. I've said previously that one of the obstacles is that the "Frexiteers" (for want of a better name) have been watching what an absolute mess Theresa May and the rest of Parliament have made of it. If things do get resolved soon over here then the Frexit movement could grow quite quickly, and the French are somewhat more adept at getting their points and protests across than we are, as has been proved with the gilets jaunes. They seem to think if the U.K. does manage to leave (as in proper Leave - WTO if you like), it could be the first domino to fall which could start to topple the EU. I don't think the French people would tolerate what is going on over here. I'm absolutely certain that they wouldn't Fel. Just look at their "everyday" protests by farmers, air traffic controllers, tanker drivers, etc etc, and then there are the gilets jaunes, a classic example of how to make your point (25 weeks now and counting) and make damned sure that the government has to sit up and take notice. Even after the President made his statement and his proposals they're still out there protesting and will continue until they do get what they want, irrespective of the risk of personal injury or death as has happened in some tragic incidents. The new gilets jaunes slogan is "France is yellow until Macron leaves". In this country we have a march or two, or a few people superglue themselves to some building, or make a bit of noise outside parliament, and it all eventually gets brushed aside and the "establishment" resumes it's inevitable course. We then have a shrug of the shoulders (that should be the gallic shrug in France shouldn't it), a few mutterings of "well, we tried didn't we", and nothing really changes. I'm not saying that there should be violent protests but the way we do things over here generally doesn;t really have any effect does it ?
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 12, 2019 7:51:11 GMT
Some of the French are still not happy. Perhaps Verhostadt should go over and have a word on behalf of Macron, or perhaps Merkel herself should pay a visit.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 15:51:48 GMT
Week 26 and the protesters still demand Macron leaves. There is also an ever increasing anti-EU "Frexit" movement tagged onto the main gilets jaunes protests. Marie Le Pen's party leads Macron ahead of the EU elections.
Since the start more than 780 protesters have been seriously injured, several have had hands blown off, several have lost eyes, and ther e has been more than 10 fatalities.
Yet there is little or no coverage whatsoever in this country.
I wonder why ?
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May 12, 2019 18:42:34 GMT
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Post by salopstick on May 12, 2019 18:42:34 GMT
Ofcom takes over bbc in two weeks. They’ve been warned over negative Brexit. This may soon get some MSM coverage
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May 12, 2019 21:05:08 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 12, 2019 21:05:08 GMT
This doesn't look too good
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May 13, 2019 6:02:19 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 13, 2019 6:02:19 GMT
France is still not at peace
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May 18, 2019 18:24:38 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 18, 2019 18:24:38 GMT
So still no coverage on U.K. media (surprise, surprise) but for the 27th week the gilets jaunes protests have taken place in Paris, Reims, Nancy, Saint-Nazaire, and Toulouse, with smaller protests in many other towns and cities across France.
Their mood is definitely not improving despite Macron saying he has listened to their demands and acted accordingly. They are steadfast in their intention to oust him from office and his popularity rating is still almost at an all time low. This week's EU elections are seen to be an indicator of his survival chances, particularly with Marin Le Pen's eurosceptic Rassemblement National party (RN) now consistently in the lead in the polls in France ahead of the EU vote.
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May 18, 2019 18:34:48 GMT
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Post by franklin66 on May 18, 2019 18:34:48 GMT
The French are a fucking wonderful community. They might stink and eat some gross stuff, but they're an amazingly intelligent and inspirationally anti-authoritarian bunch. Pisses me off when they get called surrender-monkeys considering how they fought and bled and died alongside us in WWI and got basically bitch-slapped by the might of Hitler in WWII, as we would have but for the grace of the channel / Barbarossa. I've got nothing but respect for them and their overly hirsute women. Nah defo surrender monkeys and they fought against us in North Africa in WW2 so fuck um.
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Jun 1, 2019 11:56:33 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2019 11:56:33 GMT
Week 29 of the gilets jaunes protests across France, which thankfully appear to be peaceful at the moment. It seems that they are fully intent on continuing to keep the pressure on Macron. He is already under serious pressure following Le Pen's party beating him in the EU elections.
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Jun 1, 2019 13:16:18 GMT
Post by harryburrows on Jun 1, 2019 13:16:18 GMT
Was talking to a friend yesterday who took his family to Paris Disney, said Paris/ France had changed out of all recognition with gangs of immigrants roaming the streets of Paris intimidating folks for money , aggressive begging etc . Said it was awful he left ASAP
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Jun 1, 2019 13:41:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2019 13:41:57 GMT
Ofcom takes over bbc in two weeks. They’ve been warned over negative Brexit. This may soon get some MSM coverage It's not just BBC tho is it
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Post by questionable on Jun 1, 2019 14:02:23 GMT
Was talking to a friend yesterday who took his family to Paris Disney, said Paris/ France had changed out of all recognition with gangs of immigrants roaming the streets of Paris intimidating folks for money , aggressive begging etc . Said it was awful he left ASAP We went a few weeks ago, a very short walk from the main attractions and what a shit hole, shame really as it’s a beautiful city. As you say the aggressive begging borders on a verbal mugging at times, there was literally whole families sleeping rough (apparently) Lucky enough we were stopping in a nice place where the locals seemed to congregate at night and we were free from harassment, we said that we’d never return, again shameful it’s ended up in this position
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Jun 1, 2019 14:12:08 GMT
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jun 1, 2019 14:12:08 GMT
France is a cesspit, a third-world shithole.
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Jun 1, 2019 16:15:59 GMT
Post by felonious on Jun 1, 2019 16:15:59 GMT
Was talking to a friend yesterday who took his family to Paris Disney, said Paris/ France had changed out of all recognition with gangs of immigrants roaming the streets of Paris intimidating folks for money , aggressive begging etc . Said it was awful he left ASAP Had a couple of instances of the same in Riga a few weeks back. One guy followed me into a shop where I was buying a sandwich. The woman behind the counter was going berserk with him and he completely ignored her. Three of us followed about a 100 yards by a large guy asking for 10 Euros.
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Post by harryburrows on Jun 1, 2019 16:22:28 GMT
Was talking to a friend yesterday who took his family to Paris Disney, said Paris/ France had changed out of all recognition with gangs of immigrants roaming the streets of Paris intimidating folks for money , aggressive begging etc . Said it was awful he left ASAP Had a couple of instances of the same in Riga a few weeks back. One guy followed me into a shop where I was buying a sandwich. The woman behind the counter was going berserk with him and he completely ignored her. Three of us followed about a 100 yards by a large guy asking for 10 Euros. You look very prosperous though mate , you need to look more like Mary when you travel
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Jun 1, 2019 17:54:12 GMT
Post by hoffgreen on Jun 1, 2019 17:54:12 GMT
Was talking to a friend yesterday who took his family to Paris Disney, said Paris/ France had changed out of all recognition with gangs of immigrants roaming the streets of Paris intimidating folks for money , aggressive begging etc . Said it was awful he left ASAP We went a few weeks ago, a very short walk from the main attractions and what a shit hole, shame really as it’s a beautiful city. As you say the aggressive begging borders on a verbal mugging at times, there was literally whole families sleeping rough (apparently) Lucky enough we were stopping in a nice place where the locals seemed to congregate at night and we were free from harassment, we said that we’d never return, again shameful it’s ended up in this position Spoke to a mate who was in Paris recently.... exactly the same experience... Roma pickpockets evreywhere whole families of them especially on the Paris Metro... Totally flooded with non French... All kinds of aggressive Africans trying physically accosting western tourists as they try and admire this once beautiful city... Since when was that acceptable in our European culture! He said it spoilt his stay there This is not immigration. Europe is being invaded as we speak here and now by third world people from a whole range of countries and cultures who are completely alien to us and our way of life. Our politicians are traitors and their day will come sooner than they think I reckon when the indigenous Europeans say enough is enough.
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Jun 1, 2019 22:40:55 GMT
Post by mrcoke on Jun 1, 2019 22:40:55 GMT
If you go to Paris be careful not to carry anything expensive. A former Belgian work colleague of mine was mugged at Gard du Nord for his laptop.
I guess it can happen anywhere but he was severely beaten up trying to hold onto it.
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Jun 1, 2019 23:15:30 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2019 23:15:30 GMT
See my post on what are you listening to now for my reply. Desolation row
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Jun 1, 2019 23:29:58 GMT
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Post by musik on Jun 1, 2019 23:29:58 GMT
If you go to Paris be careful not to carry anything expensive. A former Belgian work colleague of mine was mugged at Gard du Nord for his laptop. I guess it can happen anywhere but he was severely beaten up trying to hold onto it. Has it become that bad in "my Paris"? Favourite city of mine. Been there many years ago.
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Jun 2, 2019 6:05:04 GMT
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Post by questionable on Jun 2, 2019 6:05:04 GMT
If you go to Paris be careful not to carry anything expensive. A former Belgian work colleague of mine was mugged at Gard du Nord for his laptop. I guess it can happen anywhere but he was severely beaten up trying to hold onto it. Has it become that bad in "my Paris"? Favourite city of mine. Been there many years ago. Certainly has, we’ve been a number of times and our last visit will without doubt be our last. God knows how much the economy must be losing given the weekly (unreported) goings on and tourism. We spent an evening in the Latin Quarter, Christ it’s beggars central but obviously organised crime and we felt watched everywhere we went, no chance of a relaxing drink, no chance at all. As I alluded to above we spent most of our time outside central Paris, nice restaurants and bars but defeats the object by going to Paris and basically being restricted to a small back end of the place.
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Jun 10, 2019 9:45:37 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2019 9:45:37 GMT
Update from my French friends
Week 30 protests saw a change in strategy. Instead of congregating in the centre of Paris and other cities, the gilets jaunes protested through various suburbs of cities throughout France. It seemed this was a more peaceful protest with no injuries or arrests. The organisers are saying it was just as effective as it showed that the problems they are protesting against are relevant and consistent throughout France.
Macron has a real battle on his hands to resolve this situation.
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Jun 17, 2019 5:33:02 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2019 5:33:02 GMT
Week 31 and the gilets jaunes are still going strong across France. It looks like the new tactic of marches in the suburbs is going to continue even though many think it's not as "visible" as being in the centre of Paris and other towns and cities. The levels of violence appear to have decreased.
It's interesting that the French government have now decided to charge some of the police who were shown to have been violent against the protesters.
Macron is refusing to do anything else and says he's already done what's required to resolve the gilets jaunes original demands - this is just going to continue by the looks of it although it seems to have reached a bit of an impasse.
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Jun 17, 2019 6:23:17 GMT
Post by partickpotter on Jun 17, 2019 6:23:17 GMT
Week 31 and the gilets jaunes are still going strong across France. It looks like the new tactic of marches in the suburbs is going to continue even though many think it's not as "visible" as being in the centre of Paris and other towns and cities. The levels of violence appear to have decreased. It's interesting that the French government have now decided to charge some of the police who were shown to have been violent against the protesters. Macron is refusing to do anything else and says he's already done what's required to resolve the gilets jaunes original demands - this is just going to continue by the looks of it although it seems to have reached a bit of an impasse. Out of sight, out of mind. Macron will be very happy with this new tactic. Plus, a few token charges on a handful of police caught on camera will also take the heat of him. Better to establish a narrative that police violence is down to a handful of bad eggs in the police rather than something more endemic in the system. Tres bien.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2019 16:47:37 GMT
Hardly a peep from the media, it seems they can afford air fares to Venezuela and Hong Kong, but can't get their arses over to France to report the chaos that is the Macron government.....
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