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Post by Pugsley on Nov 14, 2018 17:56:13 GMT
Or our goalkeeper being outstanding... We still give up many clear cut chances. I think we have ridden our luck quite a bit, Pugs. 1 million percent. We're a load of old pony.
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Post by thevoid on Nov 14, 2018 18:18:55 GMT
We'd have to move like grease lightning I fancy. Board meeting at 10am to agree an approach and Mr. Coates on his cell phone at lunchtime! Meantime the Chief Accountant to free up a few million quid to pay the incumbent manager off. I can't see it, I reckon all our eggs are still in the Gazza Rowett basket. That's the type of leadership we need from the Board but could never see it happening, if lessons have been learnt they would be all over it. Not a chance. His name is Jokanovic, not Jones.
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Post by superheroantonius on Nov 14, 2018 18:26:29 GMT
When you see the likes of jokanovic and Wagner struggling you realise how difficult it is, to compete in the prem
These guys are class but they are not competing on a level playing field with the top clubs
I would rather watch Norwich v stoke or stoke v Boro, than spurs v stoke or stoke v man City. At least there is a point to the game, to see who can shade it and grab the three points, or even if it is going to be honours shared.
The prem is becoming a formula 1 style bore fest, where with massive money Mercedes Ferrari etc ensure the smaller teams have no chance of winning any silverware or even a single race
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Post by thevoid on Nov 14, 2018 18:27:57 GMT
Fair do's but ... based on what we have had so far, would anyone in their right mind back GR to now go on and produce the run that SJ did that got Fulham promoted from this point on? Would you have backed Fulham to do it before they did? Yes, Fulham made a similar slow start the season before last too before going on a run to the play-offs. The fact that they played a positive brand of football that created chances and goals helped.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2018 19:10:32 GMT
I'd give Rowett till 1st December, five months he would of been in charge of a squad he built with £50m
I'd have Jankovic on retainer ready to step in personally
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 14, 2018 19:17:26 GMT
When you see the likes of jokanovic and Wagner struggling you realise how difficult it is, to compete in the prem These guys are class but they are not competing on a level playing field with the top clubs I would rather watch Norwich v stoke or stoke v Boro, than spurs v stoke or stoke v man City. At least there is a point to the game, to see who can shade it and grab the three points, or even if it is going to be honours shared. The prem is becoming a formula 1 style bore fest, where with massive money Mercedes Ferrari etc ensure the smaller teams have no chance of winning any silverware or even a single race Very true, but there was no excuse for the utter capitulation that we witnessed last season.
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Post by FrankButcher on Nov 14, 2018 19:33:37 GMT
I'd have Wagner here in a heartbeat if he was to leave Huddersfield not keen on jokanovic at all not sure he'd be top of PC's list despite his impressive championship record (better than rowetts) anyway we have no managerial vacancy so there's no point in discussing it. 🤔
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Post by padders01 on Nov 14, 2018 21:12:39 GMT
Yet another club sacking their manager and getting a replacement announced inside 24 hours. While Stoke sacked theirs and took weeks to find a replacement after 3 manages turned us down!
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Post by padders01 on Nov 14, 2018 21:13:09 GMT
I'd have Wagner here in a heartbeat if he was to leave Huddersfield not keen on jokanovic at all not sure he'd be top of PC's list despite his impressive championship record (better than rowetts) anyway we have no managerial vacancy so there's no point in discussing it. 🤔 He’s more negative than Pulis and Rowett put together!
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 14, 2018 21:23:53 GMT
Impressive the way Fulham have decided things are not working out and have taken decisive action. They are not waiting to see how things work out or to turn round and promptly installed a new top class manager who will have time to assess matters and secure the right players in January.
It presents a golden opportunity to the Stoke board to recruit a relatively young manager who has achieved promotion. His playing and management records would command respect of the players in his judgement and policies. Rowett would do alright from the separation and his reputation hardly dented.
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Post by chell_rosey on Nov 14, 2018 21:46:42 GMT
Wouldn’t mind his brand of footie here If only...
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Post by maliciousdamage on Nov 14, 2018 21:47:29 GMT
I think we have ridden our luck quite a bit, Pugs. 1 million percent. We're a load of old pony.id have to agree from the games at home ive been too and following away games on the radio weve been lucky rece ntly and i think weve played some teams with not very mobile or quality forwards think QPR and Derby will be the acid tests if we lose those two id be for removing Rowett
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Post by berahinosgoals on Nov 14, 2018 23:21:16 GMT
To last in the premiership you have to be solid and defend, jokanovic has proved he can't cut it because he can't defend and his team isn't solid. Rowett however....
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Post by FrankButcher on Nov 14, 2018 23:25:01 GMT
I'd have Wagner here in a heartbeat if he was to leave Huddersfield not keen on jokanovic at all not sure he'd be top of PC's list despite his impressive championship record (better than rowetts) anyway we have no managerial vacancy so there's no point in discussing it. 🤔 He’s more negative than Pulis and Rowett put together! He never use to be! He had a similar philosophy to klopp it's only recently he's forsaken that style and chosen to be far more cautious than he use to be he ought to try the gengen pressing again might get them results.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 10:40:55 GMT
We are not going to sack three managers in a calendar year.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Nov 16, 2018 4:12:00 GMT
Impressive the way Fulham have decided things are not working out and have taken decisive action. They are not waiting to see how things work out or to turn round and promptly installed a new top class manager who will have time to assess matters and secure the right players in January. It presents a golden opportunity to the Stoke board to recruit a relatively young manager who has achieved promotion. His playing and management records would command respect of the players in his judgement and policies. Rowett would do alright from the separation and his reputation hardly dented. Bring decisive is one thing - making the correct decision is another. Ranieri is a weird choice. He did brilliantly at Leicester but they already had momentum from the previous season and let the pony ride. The following season when they started to struggle he seemed lost and had no idea how to turn it round. He's never been a trouble shooter style manager - he's always managed top end teams. If Fulham find themselves in a dog fight (which is highly likely) I think they'd be better off with Jokanovic. It may all work out for them - but time will tell whether it's a love at first sight or marry in haste, repent at leisure act of decisiveness.
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Post by lifelong on Nov 16, 2018 12:53:33 GMT
PL managerial money go round that's all. they'll still probably go down and he still gets paid/ paid off.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2018 14:43:28 GMT
You couldn't make it up.
People are fawning over Jokanovic when he's just spent over 100 million and has a team rock bottom of their league.
Meanwhile our very own manager has us in touching distance of the play offs in November, yes November folks, and they want him sacked for this very manager.
Sums this place up.
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Post by lordb on Nov 16, 2018 19:38:15 GMT
Ranieri is a better manager than Jokanivic. Good choice.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 16, 2018 22:35:22 GMT
You couldn't make it up. People are fawning over Jokanovic when he's just spent over 100 million and has a team rock bottom of their league. Meanwhile our very own manager has us in touching distance of the play offs in November, yes November folks, and they want him sacked for this very manager. Sums this place up. Just for balances sake he has the biggest budget in the league and has us closer to the bottom than the top of this league
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Post by lordb on Nov 16, 2018 22:47:34 GMT
You couldn't make it up. People are fawning over Jokanovic when he's just spent over 100 million and has a team rock bottom of their league. Meanwhile our very own manager has us in touching distance of the play offs in November, yes November folks, and they want him sacked for this very manager. Sums this place up. Just for balances sake he has the biggest budget in the league and has us closer to the bottom than the top of this league Points wise we are exactly equal between top and bottom.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2018 22:51:34 GMT
You couldn't make it up. People are fawning over Jokanovic when he's just spent over 100 million and has a team rock bottom of their league. Meanwhile our very own manager has us in touching distance of the play offs in November, yes November folks, and they want him sacked for this very manager. Sums this place up. Just for balances sake he has the biggest budget in the league and has us closer to the bottom than the top of this league I stopped reading once you mentioned the word "balance".
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Nov 17, 2018 0:55:44 GMT
You couldn't make it up. People are fawning over Jokanovic when he's just spent over 100 million and has a team rock bottom of their league. Meanwhile our very own manager has us in touching distance of the play offs in November, yes November folks, and they want him sacked for this very manager. Sums this place up. Just for balances sake he has the biggest budget in the league and has us closer to the bottom than the top of this league For years you've banging on about how net spend is the only thing that determines success. Are you admitting you got it wrong or that the only reason that we aren't top of the league is because of the manager? Be careful of your answer because if you blame the manager it disproves the net spend is everything arguement anyway....it means other factors are just as, if not even more important ...
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Post by thevoid on Nov 17, 2018 7:42:58 GMT
To last in the premiership you have to be solid and defend, jokanovic has proved he can't cut it because he can't defend and his team isn't solid. Rowett however.... ...has never had a promotion to the Premier League.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Nov 17, 2018 8:48:15 GMT
To last in the premiership you have to be solid and defend, jokanovic has proved he can't cut it because he can't defend and his team isn't solid. Rowett however.... ...has never had a promotion to the Premier League. doesn't mean he won't does it though. I have every confidence that given the right backing we'll be back in the next 2 years
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 17, 2018 13:50:56 GMT
Just for balances sake he has the biggest budget in the league and has us closer to the bottom than the top of this league For years you've banging on about how net spend is the only thing that determines success. Are you admitting you got it wrong or that the only reason that we aren't top of the league is because of the manager? Be careful of your answer because if you blame the manager it disproves the net spend is everything arguement anyway....it means other factors are just as, if not even more important ... Fire aim ready I’m afraid . Read my Posts elsewhere I’ve said the manager isn’t the one to blame for our position that accountability sits elsewhere , I merely pointed out in this case this manager remains materially short of the owners very publically stated objectives . For the record our investment simply wasnt enough to keep up with our peer group , Leicester , West Ham , bournemouth , Crystal palace , as stated at the time , the consequences inevitable , sustainable policy was appallingly executed and the investment that was made squandered, key assets not protected , a culture of apathy and complacency allowed to ooze from every pore of the club , and in any business in the world that tone is set by the highest paid executive
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 17, 2018 13:52:32 GMT
Just for balances sake he has the biggest budget in the league and has us closer to the bottom than the top of this league I stopped reading once you mentioned the word "balance". Not particularly balanced feedback to be honest 😉
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