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Post by felonious on Nov 1, 2018 7:37:06 GMT
......and violent crime?
Police should focus on catching thieves and violent criminals and not incidents where no offence has been committed, a senior officer has said.
Chief Constable Sara Thornton said forces are too stretched to deal with "deserving" issues, such as logging gender-based hate incidents.
Claims against dead people was also taking resources from tackling "today's crime today", she told a conference.
She called for a "refocus on core policing".
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46053069
There was a report on the radio this morning of a woman complaining to the police about an incident and having several requests from them to take it further as a hate crime? Same woman reported a burglary and got a postcard.
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Post by metalhead on Nov 1, 2018 8:53:23 GMT
Wow.... who'da thunk it, violent crime, thieving etc, in the UK is at a record high. It's almost like pissing away money nicking people for telling Caroline Criado-Perez that she looks like a fucking horse is actually a bad use of police resources, but hey, welcome to Modern Britain, where your freedoms are eroded and you pay taxes for a police force that can't be arsed to help you when you are violently battered in the street in an unprovoked attack (as my mate was about 12 months ago).
You can be sure you'll get nicked for saying the wrong thing on Twitter; mugging someone in the street though? Nah, y'alright, you'll be fine.
Great Britain? Great? Fuck off.
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Post by boothenboy75 on Nov 1, 2018 9:35:41 GMT
That this woman’s comments is newsworthy says it all really.
Sad state of affairs that our police forces are so full of pc shite.
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Post by xchpotter on Nov 1, 2018 9:43:06 GMT
The police became this way once they started to be politicised. It arguably started with their involvement in the miners strike under Maggie, but the lefty hugging bit has come from Blair and Labour. Now there are several senior police officers who forgot what they joined up for still promoting this approach. They will say they aren’t ignoring normal crime, but I imagine the reality is that the police can’t do both and no one will have the balls (whoops, is that a hate crime?) at senior level to come out and say what the true focus is for fear of it impacting on their next promotion or job lined up on retirement.
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 1, 2018 9:54:25 GMT
The politicalisation of the police force! No £@#&!n $#!t Sherlock.
Scroll down a few threads & you'll see the Peterloo thread. The Tories are the biggest instigators of using the police to do their dirty work.
Whether it’s industrial action or football related trouble. You’ll be far more harshly treated than in an incident up Hanley on a Satdee night
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Post by 3putts on Nov 1, 2018 10:13:33 GMT
if you are being burgled or worse attacked don't bother wasting your time dialling 999 its futile. castle and hanley full of dossers,scroungers,troublemakers where is the police presence?? yet they find the resources to position their cash cows all over the area. makes my blood boil.
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Post by metalhead on Nov 1, 2018 11:13:38 GMT
if you are being burgled or worse attacked don't bother wasting your time dialling 999 its futile. castle and hanley full of dossers,scroungers,troublemakers where is the police presence?? yet they find the resources to position their cash cows all over the area. makes my blood boil. Just tell them you went out and shot him with your legally owned shotgun (as someone infamously did), about 2 choppers and 7 police cars arrived within about 5 minutes. Amazing what the old bill can do when they need to eh? Crime won't crack itself. |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Nov 1, 2018 14:45:14 GMT
Save the treees.
Think of the unnecessary paperwork.
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Post by felonious on Nov 1, 2018 15:16:20 GMT
if you are being burgled or worse attacked don't bother wasting your time dialling 999 its futile. castle and hanley full of dossers,scroungers,troublemakers where is the police presence?? yet they find the resources to position their cash cows all over the area. makes my blood boil. Heading north on the A500 after the Birmingham match they were on the bridge at Shelton New Road with their radar guns catching the happy Potters fans and shoppers heading back home. |
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Post by metalhead on Nov 1, 2018 16:46:09 GMT
if you are being burgled or worse attacked don't bother wasting your time dialling 999 its futile. castle and hanley full of dossers,scroungers,troublemakers where is the police presence?? yet they find the resources to position their cash cows all over the area. makes my blood boil. Heading north on the A500 after the Birmingham match they were on the bridge at Shelton New Road with their radar guns catching the happy Potters fans and shoppers heading back home. Top Coppering that is. Since when was burglary a crime anyway? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2018 2:13:25 GMT
Chief Constable Sara Thornton said forces are too stretched to deal with "deserving" issues, such as logging gender-based hate incidents
This is what happens when people take twitter seriously...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2018 12:24:52 GMT
The police have already stopped focusing on catching thieves.
In Staffs if there is a shop theft the store is told not to call the police unless the person is detained at the store.
If that's not the case then there is a standard form they fill out and the police investigate as and when they get chance. As a result I reckon most businesses have given up.
I would bet the amount of shop thefts proceeding through the Courts is down 50% than five years ago and that ain't because there are less shop thefts
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Post by felonious on Nov 3, 2018 12:52:09 GMT
The police have already stopped focusing on catching thieves. In Staffs if there is a shop theft the store is told not to call the police unless the person is detained at the store.
If that's not the case then there is a standard form they fill out and the police investigate as and when they get chance. As a result I reckon most businesses have given up. I would bet the amount of shop thefts proceeding through the Courts is down 50% than five years ago and that ain't because there are less shop thefts That's pretty damning but ties in with house burglary. |
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Nov 3, 2018 22:50:58 GMT
They’re all sat in speed camera vans overlooking the A500.
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Post by metalhead on Nov 4, 2018 17:37:08 GMT
The police have already stopped focusing on catching thieves. In Staffs if there is a shop theft the store is told not to call the police unless the person is detained at the store. If that's not the case then there is a standard form they fill out and the police investigate as and when they get chance. As a result I reckon most businesses have given up. I would bet the amount of shop thefts proceeding through the Courts is down 50% than five years ago and that ain't because there are less shop thefts Not just Staffs mate. Friend of mine works in Bury, store manager of a supermarket, they get thieves all the time. They are told to detain them only if the value of the stolen goods is over £50 I think if I remember rightly. They routinely detain people, only to be told after an hour that the police are too busy and that they must let them go. It's a joke. The funniest story was a man who they detained and after well over an hour, the police said they were too busy and the store were to take his details off him. Of course he has no ID etc. Name? Joe Bloggs. Date of Birth? When was Hitler born? Address? 123 Acacia Avenue. It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so serious. Some of these guys have knives and all kinds of shit on them and the police seemingly don't give a fuck. Still, like I said, don't even think of telling Caroline Criado-Perez on Twitter that she has shit tits.... they'll be round your house taking you away in chains before The Simpsons is on. |
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Post by felonious on Nov 4, 2018 17:42:51 GMT
They’re all sat in speed camera vans overlooking the A500. I wonder if they're there when Stoke are playing away and the Vale are at home? |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 11, 2019 20:41:32 GMT
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Post by somersetstokie on Feb 12, 2019 14:49:34 GMT
I think we need separation of Police resources into more focused units. We already have partial seperation such as the Traffic Officers that you see in the black and yellow vehicles on motorways who are there specifically to police major routes. I think we need different units focusing on things like riot control and public order, enforcement- like drug dealing, gun licencing and so forth, community presence, and investigative or detection specialists.
The french do something a bit different in that they have the civilian Police Nationale, which focuses on policing cities and major urban areas, and the Gendarmerie Nationale which is part of the military and has responsibility for more provincial areas, and ports and airports. This recognizes a degree of seperation and focus that is needed to cover the different demands of coverage.
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Post by uknorse on Feb 12, 2019 15:12:15 GMT
work shy ego maniacs.... dont bother with real crime where work is required, its easier to just harass motorist with a speed gun to keep the coffers and crime figures acceptable
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Post by metalhead on Feb 12, 2019 16:22:57 GMT
work shy ego maniacs.... dont bother with real crime where work is required, its easier to just harass motorist with a speed gun to keep the coffers and crime figures acceptable That's offensive to work shy ego maniacs in my opinion. The police much worse.... a bunch of fucking despicable, corrupt, horrific, fraudulent human beings. |
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Post by somersetstokie on Feb 13, 2019 0:13:26 GMT
The satirical current affairs programme "Have I Got News for You" had a good take on things a while back. The "news" item was the aspirational use by the Police of new forms of statistical analysis to predict where and when a Crime is likely to be committed and then try to target it.
The joke was that the London Metropolitan Police had been successfully arresting (mainly black )suspects before a crime had actually been committed for years using an approach known as Institutional Racism
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Apr 18, 2019 18:55:53 GMT
The police should not be doing this..... how can they claim to be too stretched when they have time to BDO things that are not core to their job.
I believe in community policing, having been one....but this is not it and achieves nothing.... community policing has more to do with being part of a community, listening , responding, having a presence in the community and protecting their peace. The antics on the videos have more to with making a mockery of the Police on a trivial level
Check out @toadmeister’s Tweet:
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Post by bathstoke on Apr 21, 2019 7:38:55 GMT
I was only thinking lastnight, about the politicisation of this protest. The amount of coppers they’ve had on it is ridiculous. They should have just left it as an Easter weekend tourist attraction.
Cresider Dicks making personal statements over it is a nonsense.
Have they stabbed anyone to death, No.
Well in this day & age they’re setting a good example...
PS(or should that be PC)can’t wait to show my lad that vid of the copper on a 🛹(when he finally gets up of course)
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Post by lawrieleslie on Apr 21, 2019 8:55:37 GMT
The police should not be doing this..... how can they claim to be too stretched when they have time to BDO things that are not core to their job. I believe in community policing, having been one....but this is not it and achieves nothing.... community policing has more to do with being part of a community, listening , responding, having a presence in the community and protecting their peace. The antics on the videos have more to with making a mockery of the Police on a trivial level Check out @toadmeister’s Tweet: My daughter was a community Constable in one of the toughest neighbourhoods of Plymouth. She developed a good rapport with the community and was able to pass on intelligence on drug dealers, money lenders etc. In one incident a police swat team arrived on her patch unannounced to raid a suspected drug dealers house. The police were outside threatening to break the door down when my daughter arrived on the scene, walked up to the door and shouted through the letter box who she was and 10 minutes later the man was taken away in hand cuffs without a fuss. Community coppering and zero tolerance to violent crime, burglary and theft would be a good start to re establishing law and order imo. |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Apr 21, 2019 9:05:14 GMT
The police should not be doing this..... how can they claim to be too stretched when they have time to BDO things that are not core to their job. I believe in community policing, having been one....but this is not it and achieves nothing.... community policing has more to do with being part of a community, listening , responding, having a presence in the community and protecting their peace. The antics on the videos have more to with making a mockery of the Police on a trivial level Check out @toadmeister’s Tweet: My daughter was a community Constable in one of the toughest neighbourhoods of Plymouth. She developed a good rapport with the community and was able to pass on intelligence on drug dealers, money lenders etc. In one incident a police swat team arrived on her patch unannounced to raid a suspected drug dealers house. The police were outside threatening to break the door down when my daughter arrived on the scene, walked up to the door and shouted through the letter box who she was and 10 minutes later the man was taken away in hand cuffs without a fuss. Community coppering and zero tolerance to violent crime, burglary and theft would be a good start to re establishing law and order imo. When I patrolled the Stoke, Harthill, Trent Vale, Boothen , Penkhull areas of Stoke people went out of the way to talk to me... they wanted to see the Police and felt better about it. ( In response to " young people causing trouble in the street"I opened an amazingly well attended Youth club in a church along London Road, Boothen). The original definition of the Police was " a citizen locally appointed to protect life and property"( or very similar) and in fact the Police have very little additional powers to an ordinary citizen the main difference being able to act on suspicion |
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Post by franklin66 on Apr 21, 2019 13:07:14 GMT
Don't blame the cops they are told to piss about to show their human side. Fuck that start locking fuxkwits up and stop the bullshit. This is what happens when you have a Tory commissioner. Your told police should not get involved in politics but they are now run by a politition! independent my arse.
They are unable to police how they want because some power hungry stroker wants to run everything, police , fire what's next? Staffordshire PCC has over 40 staff wtf!!!! It was to replace the police authority to reduce costs!!!! load of bollocks.
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Post by franklin66 on Apr 21, 2019 13:12:43 GMT
work shy ego maniacs.... dont bother with real crime where work is required, its easier to just harass motorist with a speed gun to keep the coffers and crime figures acceptable Very few if any are cops most are civvys. |
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Post by franklin66 on Apr 21, 2019 13:23:04 GMT
The police became this way once they started to be politicised. It arguably started with their involvement in the miners strike under Maggie, but the lefty hugging bit has come from Blair and Labour. Now there are several senior police officers who forgot what they joined up for still promoting this approach. They will say they aren’t ignoring normal crime, but I imagine the reality is that the police can’t do both and no one will have the balls (whoops, is that a hate crime?) at senior level to come out and say what the true focus is for fear of it impacting on their next promotion or job lined up on retirement. Spot on that's why I could not wait to leave. Run by shithouses who only look after themselves, most cops I know what to lock the thieving bastards up but are told to do other things. So much bullshit to do no time to arrest people and investigate crimes. Even the simplest shit takes weeks, ask a bank anything and you have to get a crown court judge to order them to reply on every occasion!! Try getting a judge to move quickly :-) |
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Post by franklin66 on Apr 21, 2019 13:32:35 GMT
if you are being burgled or worse attacked don't bother wasting your time dialling 999 its futile. castle and hanley full of dossers,scroungers,troublemakers where is the police presence?? yet tchey find the resources to position their cash cows all over the area. makes my blood boil. Sorry but that's just so wrong the cash cows you talk about are not cops very few if any do such things. Maybe if they did not have to wait six weeks for BT to reply to a question it might speed things up. As for the dossers etc I agree but they are talking to fuckwits about Facebook instead. Or filling out forms to get simple answers that could be solved by a phone call but are unable to do so. They fill forms in sent it on then they get approved and sent on to the next cop and so on until it's sent off. You then wait six weeks for any reply. Buy I hope you don't make a spelling mistake because you have to start again not ring and correct it. |
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Post by starkiller on Apr 21, 2019 14:18:12 GMT
'Hate crime' = an opinion you don't like.
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