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Post by duckling on Oct 28, 2018 0:34:24 GMT
Any word on what it is yet? Quite scary as it’s no age. I’m not aware of him having other issues such as drink (which is well documented in some ex pros....Ray Wilkins for example) and thought he lived a fairly clean lifestyle. It seems that a disproportionate number of athletes and former athletes suffer heart attacks at a non-elderly age. Texiera for example. That's really strange because you'd think that they'd be the least likely to suffer a heart attack. Best wishes to Glenn.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 28, 2018 7:38:13 GMT
Any word on what it is yet? Quite scary as it’s no age. I’m not aware of him having other issues such as drink (which is well documented in some ex pros....Ray Wilkins for example) and thought he lived a fairly clean lifestyle. It seems that a disproportionate number of athletes and former athletes suffer heart attacks at a non-elderly age. Texiera for example. That's really strange because you'd think that they'd be the least likely to suffer a heart attack. Best wishes to Glenn. Two examples that always stick in my mind are Alan Ball (61) and Billy Bremner( 54) whose games depended largely on ' having a good engine'
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 7:44:03 GMT
Bit of an eccentric and probably misunderstood bloke but got a good heart. His academy in Spain has helped a lot of young players. Magnificent player to boot. Get well soon Glenn. I agree his comments about disabled people were clearly misunderstood. Lovely chap.
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Post by thevoid on Oct 28, 2018 9:29:31 GMT
All the best Glenn. Top player, true gent.
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Post by sportsman on Oct 28, 2018 9:41:58 GMT
I always hoped he'd be our manager one day. Most that have played under him say he's right up there.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Oct 28, 2018 14:36:54 GMT
Great player, terrible thoughts on disabled people. Wasn’t his outspoken thoughts on disabled people having done something bad in a previous life to deserve their afflictions or something like that, which cost him his England job. I wish him all the best even though, not in the same league as David Ike, he is certainly half a bubble off being level.
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Post by Gods on Oct 28, 2018 14:42:57 GMT
Great player, terrible thoughts on disabled people. Wasn’t his outspoken thoughts on disabled people having done something bad in a previous life to deserve their afflictions or something like that, which cost him his England job. I wish him all the best even though, not in the same league as David Ike, he is certainly half a bubble off being level. Yes it was, he's a bit crackers but not the full David Ike.
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Post by rawli on Oct 28, 2018 14:46:17 GMT
Wasn’t his outspoken thoughts on disabled people having done something bad in a previous life to deserve their afflictions or something like that, which cost him his England job. I wish him all the best even though, not in the same league as David Ike, he is certainly half a bubble off being level. Yes it was, he's a bit crackers but not the full David Ike. Does it extend to people with weak hearts ?
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Post by sharonbeech21 on Oct 28, 2018 15:40:17 GMT
Great player Football Legend Get well soon Glenn
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 28, 2018 16:00:58 GMT
Great player, terrible thoughts on disabled people. Wasn’t his outspoken thoughts on disabled people having done something bad in a previous life to deserve their afflictions or something like that, which cost him his England job. I wish him all the best even though, not in the same league as David Ike, he is certainly half a bubble off being level. Think that was exactly what he said, and rightly lost his job because of it too.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 28, 2018 18:10:42 GMT
Great player Football Legend Get well soon Glenn One of the best players I have seen live, for sure. Absolutely ran the show against us for Spurs.
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Post by Gods on Oct 28, 2018 18:22:22 GMT
Great player Football Legend Get well soon Glenn One of the best players I have seen live, for sure. Absolutely ran the show against us for Spurs. Yes, that's true, on the field the word 'class' was made for Hoddle, he was an absolute Rolls Royce of a player.
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 29, 2018 0:20:54 GMT
I have had the very good fortune of meeting Glenn Hoddle twice in a professional capacity. A very nice, friendly and humble gentleman he is too.
I also had the pleasure of watching him make his first full debut at the Victoria Ground where scored a memorable goal.
The criticism he gets makes me squirm sometimes. Alot of it is is totally unwarranted imho.
Get Well Soon.
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Post by senojbor on Oct 29, 2018 1:20:47 GMT
The absence of positive news is worrying. Get well soon Glen, pull through son.
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Post by kustokie on Oct 29, 2018 1:28:11 GMT
Greatest passer of a ball I have every seen. Get well soon.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 14:58:01 GMT
Latest report is that he's now out of intensive care and responding well to treatment.
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Post by lowlands on Oct 30, 2018 14:00:34 GMT
Was in the same school as Hoddle, although he was 4 years in front of me my mates brother played footie with him. Often saw him playing for the school then he disappeared and reappeared at Spurs. He married the headmasters daughter and his weird friend Eileen Drewary was landlady to the pub opposite where I lived.
Possibly one of the greatest footballers to grace the English Game and a shame that the FA sacked him as Englands manager despite his strange views. He was certainly way ahead of his time.
Get well football needs you, all we have left is those muppets Neville and Carragher
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Post by mermaidsal on Oct 31, 2018 20:44:42 GMT
It seems that a disproportionate number of athletes and former athletes suffer heart attacks at a non-elderly age. Texiera for example. That's really strange because you'd think that they'd be the least likely to suffer a heart attack. Best wishes to Glenn. Two examples that always stick in my mind are Alan Ball (61) and Billy Bremner( 54) whose games depended largely on ' having a good engine' Strongly suspect when fuller research can be done something will come up about overtraining, and playing through viruses, that leaves vulnerable spots for later in life (sometimes not so much later, anyone else remember Noel Brotherston of Blackburn, NI and an amazing shaped bald patch who died of a heart attack at just 38). Remember how many years it took to realise the damage done to strikers of John Ritchie, John Charles and Jeff Astle's generation from heading footballs like cannonballs? Gerd Muller has dementia too.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 31, 2018 20:55:43 GMT
Two examples that always stick in my mind are Alan Ball (61) and Billy Bremner( 54) whose games depended largely on ' having a good engine' Strongly suspect when fuller research can be done something will come up about overtraining, and playing through viruses, that leaves vulnerable spots for later in life (sometimes not so much later, anyone else remember Noel Brotherston of Blackburn, NI and an amazing shaped bald patch who died of a heart attack at just 38). Remember how many years it took to realise the damage done to strikers of John Ritchie, John Charles and Jeff Astle's generation from heading footballs like cannonballs? Gerd Muller has dementia too. I agree Sal. I had forgotten about Noel, but do remember him now.
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Post by mermaidsal on Oct 31, 2018 21:37:08 GMT
In case anyone's got 24 minutes to spare, I just found this film about John Charles. It's so moving, just a wonderful man:
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Post by mermaidsal on Oct 31, 2018 21:39:08 GMT
Strongly suspect when fuller research can be done something will come up about overtraining, and playing through viruses, that leaves vulnerable spots for later in life (sometimes not so much later, anyone else remember Noel Brotherston of Blackburn, NI and an amazing shaped bald patch who died of a heart attack at just 38). Remember how many years it took to realise the damage done to strikers of John Ritchie, John Charles and Jeff Astle's generation from heading footballs like cannonballs? Gerd Muller has dementia too. I agree Sal. I had forgotten about Noel, but do remember him now. Also, the early heart attacks often seem to be players who played on into their later 30s or even beyond so that could be another pattern?
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Nov 1, 2018 4:36:42 GMT
In case anyone's got 24 minutes to spare, I just found this film about John Charles. It's so moving, just a wonderful man: Beautiful!!
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Post by marylandstoke on Nov 1, 2018 19:00:18 GMT
I’m a veteran of that game he got his debut goal in too and it really did tell you there was something special in the making. Always found him one of the less cliched pundits too. Hope he gets well very soon. Made his full debut and we should have won. Liked him as England manager and as a pundit. The gifted sort of player England manager's of that era underused. Boy there were some names on that field that day weren’t there.
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Post by marylandstoke on Nov 1, 2018 19:15:48 GMT
Greatest passer of a ball I have every seen. Get well soon. When I was at Middlesex Poly we had a campus near White Hart lane so we would go and get a few pints in the student union and then take a game in. We had gone over for a milk cup game and in the build up they had mascots dressed like big milk bottles wandering around. With the costumes they must have been like 7 foot tall. Saw one of the Spurs players that he was knocking the ball back and forth with stop and point over the field. They both start giggling and, with minimum back lift Glenn drives a ball from the corner of the penalty area at one end of the field and just drops the guy in the milk bottle who is standing in the D of the other penalty area. Got him right on his bottle cap
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 1, 2018 20:06:28 GMT
In case anyone's got 24 minutes to spare, I just found this film about John Charles. It's so moving, just a wonderful man: Beautiful!! Had the privilege of meeting John Charles , a giant , a gentleman , very humble , very charming wonderful man
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 19:59:35 GMT
Just found this video of Glenn talking to Robbie Savage about his heart attack. He was really lucky to be in the studio and to have a trained member of staff on hand.
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Post by stokienorthants on Mar 8, 2019 20:27:52 GMT
Saw him on BT last night looking great and as articulate as ever.
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Post by Robo10 on Mar 8, 2019 20:34:25 GMT
If you can survive the first few days, and your brain makes it too, honestly, you can come back.
3 years for me this year, sudden cardiac arrest, wife and neighbour CPR for 20+ mins, apparently 6 shocks, and not a lo of hope
Pulled through somehow (no recollection, went to a wedding, woke up 3 days later)
Back at work 7 weeks later, kids football and cricket, missed 1 Stoke game (lightweight I know), play 5 a side, exercise, look after myself.
Lots of drugs, internal defib and pacemaker, but honestly mentally I was fine a few weeks later.
You either let it defeat you or crack on.
Good luck Glenn.
(PS - the thread and comments on here when it happened still choke me up now, even if you are a bunch of twats xx )
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Post by Goonie on Mar 8, 2019 20:45:13 GMT
Wasn’t his outspoken thoughts on disabled people having done something bad in a previous life to deserve their afflictions or something like that, which cost him his England job. I wish him all the best even though, not in the same league as David Ike, he is certainly half a bubble off being level. Think that was exactly what he said, and rightly lost his job because of it too. And yet if he had been say a Buddhist or Hindu he may have gotten away with it as reincarnation and karma are part of their belief system It shows two things about our society: 1. It doesn't pay to speak your mind 2. It doesn't pay to be different (I don't condone his comments but was it enough to be sacked? Especially if we believe in freedom of speech?)
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Post by stokienorthants on Mar 8, 2019 20:53:35 GMT
If you can survive the first few days, and your brain makes it too, honestly, you can come back. 3 years for me this year, sudden cardiac arrest, wife and neighbour CPR for 20+ mins, apparently 6 shocks, and not a lo of hope Pulled through somehow (no recollection, went to a wedding, woke up 3 days later) Back at work 7 weeks later, kids football and cricket, missed 1 Stoke game (lightweight I know), play 5 a side, exercise, look after myself. Lots of drugs, internal defib and pacemaker, but honestly mentally I was fine a few weeks later. You either let it defeat you or crack on. Good luck Glenn. (PS - the thread and comments on here when it happened still choke me up now, even if you are a bunch of twats xx ) Congrats on coming through this. I just checked your profile as I wondered how old you were when you had your episode. Surprised to find that we share the same birthday although I was born 18 years before you. Please rest assured that I don’t do stalking - well not since the court case!
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