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Post by robrigo on Sept 24, 2018 19:05:30 GMT
I thought we were a club with class. We look after our players don’t we?
Ryan Shawcross is a legend. A fantastic servant to this club. Yes, he’s not the player he was but this mini witch hunt is tasteless and symptomatic of what our club has become.
Boo the defenders- fuck you Rowett.
You and your bosses should have signed some in the summer and maybe we would have had a chance of managing players like Ryan in the proper fashion instead of what we are witnessing now. Disgraceful.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 19:15:27 GMT
Rowett's favourite...James McClean when he's fit. Now that would be fun. On a serious note Rowett rates him highly and has praised his character, and he will always be the first name on the team sheet. Along with ten other McCleans if possible, according to GR himself. So if the captain is the extended arm of the manager there can be no other choice.
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Post by basingstokie on Sept 24, 2018 19:26:49 GMT
Ryan Shawcross. If and when he is no longer able to command a first XI place regularly then a replacement should be identified. But that conversation should be between GR and Ryan and handled in a respectful manner.
If GR fucks this up he could make more than a few enemies in the squad.
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Post by Pricey on Sept 24, 2018 20:11:23 GMT
Rowett throwing Shawcross under the bus is appalling. This is the man who has consistently been one of our top performers for over a decade. That kind of player just doesn't exist any more.
It suggests Rowett hasn't got much class and will shit on anyone to save himself. Just drop him from the team and slag him off under your breath when you're working extremely hard walking your dog on a Sunday morning.
Bloke's a joker.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Sept 24, 2018 20:39:02 GMT
Rowett throwing Shawcross under the bus is appalling. This is the man who has consistently been one of our top performers for over a decade. That kind of player just doesn't exist any more. It suggests Rowett hasn't got much class and will shit on anyone to save himself. Just drop him from the team and slag him off under your breath when you're working extremely hard walking your dog on a Sunday morning. Bloke's a joker. He's a wannabee Mourihno. It's all about him. He'll take the credit when things are going well and it"s someone else's fault when it's not and he's perfectly happy to hang individuals out to dry. Unlike Mourihno however he has no tactical nous. Second half on Saturday he spent most of the time sat in his arse in the dug out just waiting for it to end. Like Mourihno he never stays anywhere long. Let's hope his stay at Stoke is even shorter than usual.
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Post by salopstick on Sept 24, 2018 21:05:51 GMT
If we were going to have a new captain it should have been done pre season
End of.
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Post by mermaidsal on Sept 24, 2018 21:32:46 GMT
Jack for me but I wouldn't be ready to drop Ryan S yet
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Post by mermaidsal on Sept 24, 2018 21:34:42 GMT
Rowett throwing Shawcross under the bus is appalling. This is the man who has consistently been one of our top performers for over a decade. That kind of player just doesn't exist any more. It suggests Rowett hasn't got much class and will shit on anyone to save himself. Just drop him from the team and slag him off under your breath when you're working extremely hard walking your dog on a Sunday morning. Bloke's a joker. I'm getting close to feeling like I'd rather see Ryan given a go as player-manager. He's the only one left who understands the DNA that made us so hard to beat for so long.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 24, 2018 22:00:06 GMT
Rowett will go for Allen,that way he won't drop him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 22:11:36 GMT
I wouldn't rule out Fletcher.
Definitely wouldn't be my choice - but nothing would surprise me at the moment.
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Sept 24, 2018 22:11:45 GMT
Rowett throwing Shawcross under the bus is appalling. This is the man who has consistently been one of our top performers for over a decade. That kind of player just doesn't exist any more. It suggests Rowett hasn't got much class and will shit on anyone to save himself. Just drop him from the team and slag him off under your breath when you're working extremely hard walking your dog on a Sunday morning. Bloke's a joker. I'm getting close to feeling like I'd rather see Ryan given a go as player-manager. He's the only one left who understands the DNA that made us so hard to beat for so long. I agree about Jack... not afraid to tell the blokes off and lead by example. But Ryan should remain for now... as for being player manager, I’m not sure...he doesn’t come across as a tactically astute type of player nor an effective communicator... would he have the attributes needed as a Manager? Would he want to?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 24, 2018 22:22:31 GMT
Ryan’s wife now calling out Spinks on Twitter and saying Shawcross has been thrown under a bus.
It’s an unnecessary shit stirring poll.
It also underlines the reality of ‘honest Gary telling it like it is’.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 24, 2018 22:27:16 GMT
Ryan’s wife now calling out Spinks on Twitter and saying Shawcross has been thrown under a bus. It’s an unnecessary shit stirring poll. It also underlines the reality of ‘honest Gary telling it like it is’. Not on Twitter TA Can you post it or what is she saying?
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Post by RF10 on Sept 24, 2018 22:36:42 GMT
What a shit state of affairs. Can't believe the Sentinel are running that. Complete disrespect to our long serving captain.
Dropped from the team and removed from captain are two massive differences. If He plays he should be captain end of. Rip Ferdinand and John Terry wern't stripped of captaincy when there form dropped.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 24, 2018 22:41:20 GMT
Yes, the choice is very limited
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 22:47:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 22:58:39 GMT
If Ryan is past it and all the fans can see it he should be treated with respect for his long term commitment and loyalty. Rowett should have had a word behind closed doors and if needed dropping, drop him. We all know why. I don't care how bad he plays he should be shown respect and Coates should be having a word.
At this rate he is going to be playing the under 23 sqaud as all the first team are going to be all out with Rowetts hanging out to dry tactics.
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Post by kustokie on Sept 24, 2018 23:36:13 GMT
Ryan’s wife now calling out Spinks on Twitter and saying Shawcross has been thrown under a bus. It’s an unnecessary shit stirring poll. It also underlines the reality of ‘honest Gary telling it like it is’. He’s thrown himself under the bus with his poor performances this season. He is a been great servant of the club, but he’s not the most inspiration character I’ve ever seen. Slumped shoulders, head down, and trudging back after every goal conceded does not exactly inspire confidence. He should be in the other players’ faces urging them to step up. Unfortunately, he’s not going to be too credible when he’s responsible for giving another silly goal.
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Post by musik on Sept 25, 2018 0:02:59 GMT
Pieters if I had to choose someone. But hopefully Shawcross comes back soon - better than ever and then when we're miracously promoted, he can tell Rowett and everyone else who suddenly wants him, to fuck off when he's being offered a contract elsewhere.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 25, 2018 6:48:58 GMT
Ryan’s wife now calling out Spinks on Twitter and saying Shawcross has been thrown under a bus. It’s an unnecessary shit stirring poll. It also underlines the reality of ‘honest Gary telling it like it is’. He’s thrown himself under the bus with his poor performances this season. He is a been great servant of the club, but he’s not the most inspiration character I’ve ever seen. Slumped shoulders, head down, and trudging back after every goal conceded does not exactly inspire confidence. He should be in the other players’ faces urging them to step up. Unfortunately, he’s not going to be too credible when he’s responsible for giving another silly goal. Ryan has been poor. In the real world, publicly pissing off a club institution is an interesting move. Jose Mourinho hasn't always survived those kind of games. The Bromsgrove happy shopper version will be extremely lucky to.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 25, 2018 7:01:11 GMT
The obvious thing to do would be to keep Ryan as club captain and then go game by game in relation to the skipper for the game depending on the side. I like Williams qualities but he can’t be guaranteed a spot. Ryan has been a great servant but right now he needs resting.
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 1, 2018 14:28:11 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/gary-rowett-press-conference-bolton-2060256Is Ryan Shawcross still team captain?Ryan Woods wore the armband on Saturday. If and when Ryan Shawcross is back to start, who gets the honour?
Rowett: There’s a good chance that Ryan (Shawcross) will be captain, yes. Of course it’s something you give thought to - could you take the pressure off the likes of Ryan by letting him focus on the game alone? But he’s a proud captain of Stoke so I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. At this moment in time not to have Ryan as captain. That might be tomorrow night or the next time he’s selected.
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Post by mermaidsal on Oct 1, 2018 21:28:16 GMT
Looks to me like the choice is made and Gary knows it. He wants a player on the rise, who's his own signing and has all the reasons to give all he's got and more. Turn the clock back ten years and remember Tone making a similar decision with Ryan S? The future has already begun, I'm strongly suspecting, and at moments like this an amount of manager speak with forked tongue just goes with the territory.
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Post by jontimmis on Oct 1, 2018 21:30:27 GMT
Sounds like Rowett just back tracks
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Oct 1, 2018 21:34:36 GMT
Sounds like Rowett just back tracks He used to be indecisive now he’s not so sure!!!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 1, 2018 21:37:47 GMT
He's going to change it as soon as he can isn't he, if he gets the replacements he wants in Jan I suspect it'll be a permanent change from then on.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2018 21:43:07 GMT
He's going to change it as soon as he can isn't he, if he gets the replacements he wants in Jan I suspect it'll be a permanent change from then on. And so it should be.
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