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Post by werrington on Sept 7, 2018 15:13:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 15:18:52 GMT
"That's one place taken care of"
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Post by somersetstokie on Sept 7, 2018 15:18:54 GMT
If it happens it could be a lifeline in our relegation battle!  |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 7, 2018 15:25:40 GMT
Yes and they'd do it to Birmingham and all. Whereas QPR, a London club, get let off with a slap on the wrist and Bournemouth and Leicester don't give a fuck (as long as they stay in the Prem). Not that I actually care too much I hate the bluenosed bastards but it's the double standards that does my tree in. |
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Post by werrington on Sept 7, 2018 15:30:01 GMT
Yes and they'd do it to Birmingham and all. Whereas QPR, a London club, get let off with a slap on the wrist and Bournemouth and Leicester don't give a fuck (as long as they stay in the Prem). Not that I actually care too much I hate the bluenosed bastards but it's the double standards that does my tree in. You mean like demoting Swindon Town 2 divisions and then just kicking Tottenham out of the FA cup but then reversing it on appeal meaning they were back in it Surely not ? |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 7, 2018 15:34:28 GMT
Yes and they'd do it to Birmingham and all. Whereas QPR, a London club, get let off with a slap on the wrist and Bournemouth and Leicester don't give a fuck (as long as they stay in the Prem). Not that I actually care too much I hate the bluenosed bastards but it's the double standards that does my tree in. You mean like demoting Swindon Town 2 divisions and then just kicking Tottenham out of the FA cup but then reversing it on appeal meaning they were back in it Surely not ? And the Tevez, Wet Sham/Sheffield Utd fiasco. No corruption there. Nothing to see move on. It's only a poxy northern club that didn't win the World Cup after all. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 7, 2018 15:39:08 GMT
Birmingham have shit it really if they are intent on making an example of them as they're bang to rights.
They've just got to hope they 'let them off' with a fine.
They look likely to go down anyway without any points deductions.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Sept 7, 2018 15:51:50 GMT
Yes and they'd do it to Birmingham and all. Whereas QPR, a London club, get let off with a slap on the wrist and Bournemouth and Leicester don't give a fuck (as long as they stay in the Prem). Not that I actually care too much I hate the bluenosed bastards but it's the double standards that does my tree in.
This isn't double standards though is it?
This isn't a case of them breaking FFP rules for the first time so they've been given a 12 pt deduction, whereas everyone else just gets a slap on the wrist. This punishment is because they'd already been disciplined for FFP breaches (and got the same kind of "slap on the wrist" QPR got, but without the world's largest fine ever in sport like QPR got i might add), but unlike the other clubs you mention, they then completely ignored that punishment.
Basically their initial punishment was even less than QPRs but they stuck their middle finger up to it and carried on regardless. THAT'S why this punishment will be more severe.
I agree there have been inconsistencies in the past re: FFP but this isn't one of them as you can't compare the other clubs you mentioned as all (including Brum) basically just got a slap on the wrists but the rest chose to accept that whereas Brum thought "Fuck 'em we'll do what we want anyway"....completely different to the other clubs you mentioned.
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Post by jammer on Sept 7, 2018 15:58:57 GMT
Yes and they'd do it to Birmingham and all. Whereas QPR, a London club, get let off with a slap on the wrist and Bournemouth and Leicester don't give a fuck (as long as they stay in the Prem). Not that I actually care too much I hate the bluenosed bastards but it's the double standards that does my tree in. Im not sure QPR got let off with just a slap. They got a £17million cash fine, transfer embargo, paying legal costs for EFL and themselves, had to write off some £60 million in shareholder loans off the books completely. Theyre screwed well and truly... Newcastle will be hammered if they get relegated again, as will Leicester and Bournmouth and others. I feel for Birmingham fans, 12 point deduction is tough. Stoke need to keep a very close eye on FFP as theyre squarely in its sights too. Wouldn't take much more to go wrong to find ourselves stuck in the championship longer term and having to shred wages and contracts. Derby's chairmen said as much when we bought GR in. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 16:06:21 GMT
Yes and they'd do it to Birmingham and all. Whereas QPR, a London club, get let off with a slap on the wrist and Bournemouth and Leicester don't give a fuck (as long as they stay in the Prem). Not that I actually care too much I hate the bluenosed bastards but it's the double standards that does my tree in.
This isn't double standards though is it?
This isn't a case of them breaking FFP rules for the first time so they've been given a 12 pt deduction, whereas everyone else just gets a slap on the wrist. This punishment is because they'd already been disciplined for FFP breaches (and got the same kind of "slap on the wrist" QPR got, but without the world's largest fine ever in sport like QPR got i might add), but unlike the other clubs you mention, they then completely ignored that punishment.
Basically their initial punishment was even less than QPRs but they stuck their middle finger up to it and carried on regardless. THAT'S why this punishment will be more severe.
I agree there have been inconsistencies in the past re: FFP but this isn't one of them as you can't compare the other clubs you mentioned as all (including Brum) basically just got a slap on the wrists but the rest chose to accept that whereas Brum thought "Fuck 'em we'll do what we want anyway"....completely different to the other clubs you mentioned.
Your facts aren't welcome here...they don't fit with the story that London clubs get away with murder whilst other unfashionable clubs get made an example of. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 7, 2018 16:16:53 GMT
Common link Arry?
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Post by southstanddan on Sept 7, 2018 16:26:40 GMT
There’s always talk of someone or other getting a points deduction but it hardly ever happens
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Post by ravey123 on Sept 7, 2018 18:20:15 GMT
They'll still finish above us  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 18:38:59 GMT
When was the last time a points deduction happened in the Prem or Championship?
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Sept 7, 2018 18:42:02 GMT
Steady on now...some clown will be popping the 'arry Wheeler Dealer Youtube video up (not that Im suggesting anything  ) Also...Im sure thats StaffsVilla will be devastated by such news for the much loved Blues |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 7, 2018 18:58:22 GMT
Yes and they'd do it to Birmingham and all. Whereas QPR, a London club, get let off with a slap on the wrist and Bournemouth and Leicester don't give a fuck (as long as they stay in the Prem). Not that I actually care too much I hate the bluenosed bastards but it's the double standards that does my tree in. This isn't double standards though is it? This isn't a case of them breaking FFP rules for the first time so they've been given a 12 pt deduction, whereas everyone else just gets a slap on the wrist. This punishment is because they'd already been disciplined for FFP breaches (and got the same kind of "slap on the wrist" QPR got, but without the world's largest fine ever in sport like QPR got i might add), but unlike the other clubs you mention, they then completely ignored that punishment. Basically their initial punishment was even less than QPRs but they stuck their middle finger up to it and carried on regardless. THAT'S why this punishment will be more severe. I agree there have been inconsistencies in the past re: FFP but this isn't one of them as you can't compare the other clubs you mentioned as all (including Brum) basically just got a slap on the wrists but the rest chose to accept that whereas Brum thought "Fuck 'em we'll do what we want anyway"....completely different to the other clubs you mentioned.
I get what you're saying to a certain extent Birmingham did flout the original ruling but QPR hardly came clean and put their hands up at an early stage did they? They've employed every trick in the book to avoid this since 2013. If they'd stayed in the Premier League they'd have simply ignored it I'm sure. Also the club fine is actually £17m (not peanuts I appreciate) with the remainder being fines picked up by the multibillionaire owners converting £21m into shares in the club. So in effect meaningless as the club has no means of paying back the owners, converting one piece of junk paper in the form of debt to another in the form of shares is accounting sleight of hand, no more than that. The full ruling was QPR fined £17 million as an FFP Tax but it being paid in instalments over ten years. QPR have transfer embargo in the January 2019 window QPR pay EFL’s legal costs of £3 million (plus presumably their own costs too). QPR owners convert £21 million of debt into shares. The FFP fine will be excluded from QPR’s losses when calculating the 2018/19 figures. Is this a fair settlement? No consideration whatsoever given to a possible points deduction. As a result of being promoted, QPR earned £148 million in broadcasting income and parachute payments between 2014/15 and 2017/18. Derby fans will no doubt take the view that this money could have ended up in the coffers of their club had QPR not flouted the rules and then beat them in the playoffs. As I say I don't really care because I hate the Brummie twats but it still smacks of double standards to me. |
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Post by adi on Sept 7, 2018 20:34:54 GMT
Yes and they'd do it to Birmingham and all. Whereas QPR, a London club, get let off with a slap on the wrist and Bournemouth and Leicester don't give a fuck (as long as they stay in the Prem). Not that I actually care too much I hate the bluenosed bastards but it's the double standards that does my tree in. Exactly! It fucking stinks. QPR should’ve been dumped out of the league. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 20:51:45 GMT
Perhaps they'll take Rowett back? 🤔😬
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Post by lordb on Sept 7, 2018 20:59:10 GMT
Perhaps they'll take Rowett back? 🤔😬 He did no an excellent job there,no question. |
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Post by stokeykez on Sept 7, 2018 22:23:09 GMT
Don't worry I'm sure stoke city charity fc will give them 3 points on 20th October to reduce it to 9
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 7, 2018 23:18:39 GMT
If it happens it could be a lifeline in our relegation battle! Crikey I'm relieved to read someone else having the bottle to use the word relegation in a post I'm generally a realist and not a pessimist, but for 2 seasons I have mentioned the prospect of relegation in a post in August (based on a) our appalling lack of proper preparation for the season ahead and b)imbalance in the squad) and been absolutely slaughtered on this forum. Good luck mate! |
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Post by kustokie on Sept 7, 2018 23:31:25 GMT
If it happens it could be a lifeline in our relegation battle! No “could” about it! |
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 8, 2018 8:01:07 GMT
When was the last time a points deduction happened in the Prem or Championship? I think this happened to Portsmouth?  |
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Post by 3putts on Sept 8, 2018 8:52:47 GMT
Couldn't happen to a nicer club
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Post by 3putts on Sept 8, 2018 8:57:29 GMT
Yes and they'd do it to Birmingham and all. Whereas QPR, a London club, get let off with a slap on the wrist and Bournemouth and Leicester don't give a fuck (as long as they stay in the Prem). Not that I actually care too much I hate the bluenosed bastards but it's the double standards that does my tree in. Im not sure QPR got let off with just a slap. They got a £17million cash fine, transfer embargo, paying legal costs for EFL and themselves, had to write off some £60 million in shareholder loans off the books completely. Theyre screwed well and truly... Newcastle will be hammered if they get relegated again, as will Leicester and Bournmouth and others. I feel for Birmingham fans, 12 point deduction is tough. Stoke need to keep a very close eye on FFP as theyre squarely in its sights too. Wouldn't take much more to go wrong to find ourselves stuck in the championship longer term and having to shred wages and contracts. Derby's chairmen said as much when we bought GR in. Why give any credence to anything a bitter and resentful Derby chairman says? Of course any team in any division will go bust if they only bring players in to a full squad, no club in the world would be so stupid since then we have offloaded the high wages of shaq, wimmer, choupo, grant, imbula and I am sure there are many more close to the exit door |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2018 9:10:21 GMT
Perhaps they'll take Rowett back? 🤔😬 He did no an excellent job there,no question. Surely it's a perfect time to return then 😁😬 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2018 9:26:11 GMT
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Sept 8, 2018 10:07:04 GMT
Looks good from where I'm standing.
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Post by staffsvilla on Sept 8, 2018 10:27:44 GMT
Steady on now...some clown will be popping the 'arry Wheeler Dealer Youtube video up (not that Im suggesting anything ) Also...Im sure thats StaffsVilla will be devastated by such news for the much loved Blues After a summer of full on abuse from blues texts,tweets,emails,links to skint videos,every way of piss taking yóu can imagine about our impending fall into a financial abyiss ,yes mate I'm truly gutted for them LIKE FUCK I AMSnidey,inbred,bitter bluenose bastards deserve all they get, hate them and will hate them till the day I die, childish ? Not at all just pure hatred a proper local rivalry UTV PS, SOTC |
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Post by somersetstokie on Sept 8, 2018 12:30:29 GMT
If it happens it could be a lifeline in our relegation battle! Crikey I'm relieved to read someone else having the bottle to use the word relegation in a post I'm generally a realist and not a pessimist, but for 2 seasons I have mentioned the prospect of relegation in a post in August (based on a) our appalling lack of proper preparation for the season ahead and b)imbalance in the squad) and been absolutely slaughtered on this forum. Good luck mate! I just have this horrible feeling that there are different elements at the club that are seemingly pulling in different directions and there is no "plan" or real appreciation of what a finely balanced if not critical situation we now find ourselves in, in a new league that we are just not used to. I know that we should have all the pieces in place to ensure that our future success is in our own hands but I can also see all the ingredients that represent a recipe for disaster. At the moment I will take any indicators or happenings that might show in our favour as being extremely welcome. |
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