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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 5, 2018 17:11:55 GMT
Best case scenario is Ince on the left and Diouf on the right until maybe Clucas is fit to play, possibly at the start of next month then? Then hopefully Clucas on the left and Ince on the right until McClean is fit. And maybe it'll mean Bauer at least on the bench. Really shows the folly of not bringing in another winger with that last loan though.
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Post by jwhpotter on Sept 5, 2018 17:15:14 GMT
Was always going to be a big fuck up only signing 2 wingers
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 5, 2018 17:55:27 GMT
"It's bad news for us and bad news for James"
"For all that people can still be critical of certain things, I think what you've seen is an unbelievably committed player who's been as dangerous as any player over the last 3-4 games. He's still not as sharp as he'd like, but it will be a huge miss.
"He's probably our main winger who'll give us a little bit more width and play as a natural old-fashioned winger at times"
"We're working very hard to change things, and now you add another problem on top of that"
"He's going to be out for the best part of 6 weeks I would imagine, which is a big blow for us"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 17:56:46 GMT
"It's bad news for us and bad news for James" "For all that people can still be critical of certain things, I think what you've seen is an unbelievably committed player who's been as dangerous as any player over the last 3-4 games. He's still not as sharp as he'd like, but it will be a huge miss. "He's probably our main winger who'll give us a little bit more width and play as a natural old-fashioned winger at times" "We're working very hard to change things, and now you add another problem on top of that" "He's going to be out for the best part of 6 weeks I would imagine, which is a big blow for us" A problem that was avoidable by signing the correct cover.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Sept 5, 2018 17:58:35 GMT
The problem that was the most foreseeable problem in the history of football management has arisen after only 5 games. What a bunch of clueless idiots we have running the club
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 5, 2018 18:00:15 GMT
Maybe Peter Coates will finally wake up when we're playing Hauggard on one wing and Souttar on the other.
Not good enough Stoke. AGAIN.
Peter and John Coates may as well have shit in a giant sock, swung it around their heads and splattered the fans in their own excrement as well as that pack of lies statement back in May.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 18:06:06 GMT
He talks some bollocks doesn't he:
"He's probably our main winger who'll give us a little bit more width" Thanks for that Gary none of us knew what a winger does... "He's probably our main winger... and play as a natural old-fashioned winger at times" Well done Gary, he's a winger who you play as winger (sometimes)! Now trying playing everyone else in their correct bloody position...
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 5, 2018 18:06:12 GMT
It was obvious yet we did nothing. Maybe go back to 433 with no real wingers. With Afobe up front with Bera and Ince behind. Trying to do it on the cheap costing us yet again.
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Post by cousindupree on Sept 5, 2018 18:30:57 GMT
Well I hope he is back and playing by 10th November as I would hate for the poppy pantomime to be cancelled. I was looking forward to that more than the footie.
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Post by ursemboys on Sept 5, 2018 19:45:57 GMT
so we need a back up player for every position then ,just incase something happens ,there are players who can stand in for McLean or we change the formation ,I am sure people think managing a football club is just the same has on play station Tbf we did need another winger, seeing Diouf on the right is so frustrating. put like that I now concede we do need another winger ,seen Donkey on the pitch is enough to make me give up
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 19:46:16 GMT
Maybe Peter Coates will finally wake up when we're playing Hauggard on one wing and Souttar on the other. Not good enough Stoke. AGAIN. Peter and John Coates may as well have shit in a giant sock, swung it around their heads and splattered the fans in their own excrement as well as that pack of lies statement back in May. You seem to be creating a fuss, Sheikh? I'm struggling to see what it's about?
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Post by tony1234 on Sept 5, 2018 20:08:28 GMT
It was a little zealously worded. But surely you get the point? (50 games, tough physical league, .. wingers required to particularly exert lots of pace and energy during games, so prone to be substituted too to maintain their threat.... our team is set up as 442, so is relying on its wider players ??? Yet 2 capable wingers in squad.) Freebies here - www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/free-agents-transfers-sako-yacob-15025743Nasri one wing, Sako the other, Kirchoff or Flamini as CDM, Huth or Collins as CB, Onuha as back up LB, Lacina Traore as additional striker with Anichebe as back up or Bent off the bench. They are freebies for a reason Ha! Yes, think you are right there!
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Post by bhp on Sept 5, 2018 20:11:18 GMT
Actually yes. You need a back-up for each position except GK where you need three. It’s that simple. we have a squad big enough to cope with injuries , you cannot just go out and flood your squad with like for like players ,you have players who can cover various positions until the player is fit again , I am sure we will have someone to play in mcleans position and listing to some on here he won't be missed anyway We have 2 natural wingers in the side. Last season we had 3. Now we have 2. McClean is injured now we don't have a natural winger who can slot into the side. It was evident that we needed another winger. Along with others but that's for another day.
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Post by tony1234 on Sept 5, 2018 20:13:55 GMT
Maybe Peter Coates will finally wake up when we're playing Hauggard on one wing and Souttar on the other. Not good enough Stoke. AGAIN. Peter and John Coates may as well have shit in a giant sock, swung it around their heads and splattered the fans in their own excrement as well as that pack of lies statement back in May. Commentary straight from Alan Partridge. I haven't got a clue what that last sentence means, but i agree fully with it. Well said.
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Post by robrigo on Sept 5, 2018 20:15:03 GMT
The good days are well and truly behind us aren’t they?
A blind man and his dog could see that we needed another winger, except for the people that run the bloody club that is.
No apparent foresight, ridiculous amount of central midfielders, three centre halves ( a legend on his apparent last legs, one that’s knocking on, the other injury prone), a chronic lack of cover on the wings- I suppose he could always play our main summer signing there again and stick Afobe there) and then we can rely on the youngster Crouchy up top.
An absolute mess! ‘ We’ve learnt our lessons’.
What a load of old bollocks!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 20:15:18 GMT
What a stupid f***ing tweet. How is the transfer strategy to blame for a player breaking his arm? Some of the shit people write. It was a little zealously worded. But surely you get the point? (50 games, tough physical league, .. wingers required to particularly exert lots of pace and energy during games, so prone to be substituted too to maintain their threat.... our team is set up as 442, so is relying on its wider players Yet 2 capable wingers in squad.) Freebies here - www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/free-agents-transfers-sako-yacob-15025743Nasri one wing, Sako the other, Kirchoff or Flamini as CDM, Huth or Collins as CB, Onuha as back up LB, Lacina Traore as additional striker with Anichebe as back up or Bent off the bench. Such a shame to see Giuseppe Rossi on that list. A very talented finisher that has had injury after injury.
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Post by tony1234 on Sept 5, 2018 20:22:41 GMT
Well, if there was any doubt that our highly paid management team knew less than a Joe Blogs stoke fan, here is a pretty compelling argument to suggest that they don't. Was there anyone on here, at all, who DIDN't mention the compelling need for an additional winger/wide forward? Who thinks 2 wingers for a 50 game season in probably the most phyiscal league in Europe is enough when you are playing 442?
They are, in some ways, the most obvious need for cover, not just in case of injuries: Their main asset to a team is very often pace, so if they are giving it everything, they are frequently the ones substituted on 60-75 mins... with another player with pace who can take their place. They are also as prone to form swings as anyone, or even simply games when they just can't make it happen. What about competition for places, or Plan B's?
Jesus.
So many optons this window too - Players like Callum Robinson, Mo Barrow or Maddison for 4-5m. Wilson, Ojo (or Snodgrass) on loan... Instead, a third right back option to add to 1 very good player and a youngster; and about 8 CMs, none of whom are particularly creative.
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Sept 5, 2018 20:25:10 GMT
McClean is not an old fashioned winger, he's not a new inside forward either. No pace, little skill, no vision and can't cross.
We probably won't miss him.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 5, 2018 20:28:11 GMT
This should be enough to dismiss the transfer strategy custodian tomorrow for gross inefficiency never mind the rest of the crime sheet , Rowett is a terrible appointment but the underlyin* cause is elsewhere and until that’s rooted out nothing will change and the ever increasing downward trajectory will continue
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Post by cousindupree on Sept 5, 2018 21:00:45 GMT
I have posted this before, Rowett is on the record as saying we have 4 players who can play wide and a fifth if you include Bauer who has played there before and now even a sixth as he has no problems playing our number one striker out wide....seemed he was happy with the options so maybe the pizza ragazzi are not mea culpa on this one.
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Post by shrewspotter on Sept 5, 2018 21:09:55 GMT
It’s disappointing news sure, but for me I’d play Clucas lw anyhow, one mans mis fortune is another’s opportunity. It’s a squad game and really this shouldnt de-rail our season
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 5, 2018 21:14:32 GMT
Maybe Peter Coates will finally wake up when we're playing Hauggard on one wing and Souttar on the other. Not good enough Stoke. AGAIN. Peter and John Coates may as well have shit in a giant sock, swung it around their heads and splattered the fans in their own excrement as well as that pack of lies statement back in May. I await his comments tomorrow in his Radio Stoke interview🤔surely not another “What’s all the fuss about”
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 5, 2018 21:31:26 GMT
He talks some bollocks doesn't he: "He's probably our main winger who'll give us a little bit more width" Thanks for that Gary none of us knew what a winger does... "He's probably our main winger... and play as a natural old-fashioned winger at times" Well done Gary, he's a winger who you play as winger (sometimes)! Now trying playing everyone else in their correct bloody position... Anyone that says that really hasn't a clue. He needs to go. Now.
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Post by TexasPotter on Sept 6, 2018 17:47:00 GMT
Hopefully he comes back with a cast to weigh down his arm to keep his fookin' head over the god damn ball when crossing. Fookin e'll.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 26, 2018 9:27:16 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 26, 2018 9:36:42 GMT
Back in the team at Rotherham, no doubt about it.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 26, 2018 9:58:14 GMT
Back in the team at Rotherham, no doubt about it. Probably - bet he hasn't lost much fitness.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 26, 2018 10:29:09 GMT
Back in the team at Rotherham, no doubt about it. Hopefully.
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Post by hanibal7 on Sept 26, 2018 10:58:55 GMT
West brom poised to sign winger Sakho
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Post by jimmygscfc on Sept 26, 2018 11:11:50 GMT
West brom poised to sign winger Sakho Seems some teams have a better idea of what they need.
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