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Post by berahinosgoals on Aug 28, 2018 8:11:05 GMT
Not denying he's spent a fortune but what has guardiola spent in that time? On gbp v merit it seems pochettino is the outstanding manager in the league. Mourhino has spunked far too much on lukaku & pogba, don't forget though when he took over he was all ready playing catch up. Them two players have taken nearly half of his transfer spending. I'm intrigued to see who they would appoint if he leaves? Can't see pochettino moving to a rival. Zidane seems to be where the smart money is. He's still spent loads even without Pogba and Lukaku. He's spent £67m on centre halves alone and is now bleating that he needs another one. As far as playing catch-up goes, he has an attacking quartet of Lukaku, Rashford, Martial, Pogba. That should be more than capable of mounting a better challenge than the one he's put forward. He's neutering them. would zidane really make a huge difference though? Given the choice i think mourhino would rid himself of half of that man utd team tbh, maybe he's in the same boat as us in that nobody wants to buy his first team average joes on big money contracts? It seems he's bought Sanchez though because he was on offer and he can't really fit him in. Could Wenger be in the frame if he goes?
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Post by Gods on Aug 28, 2018 8:19:19 GMT
I find it so hard to believe he's just so incredibly ordinary nowadays. He really was something special once upon a time People say very much the same of me too Sal, comes to us all :-(
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2018 8:31:15 GMT
Given the choice i think mourhino would rid himself of half of that man utd team tbh, maybe he's in the same boat as us in that nobody wants to buy his first team average joes on big money contracts? The difference is he is in his 3rd year there, he has had plenty of transfer windows to get rid of players he doesn't want - I can't think of anyone in their squad who wouldn't easily find a new club even if Man Utd had to subsidise some of their wages. Mourinho has bought the big names in that squad and spent plenty of money, I'm surprised they went for him in the first place though as Man Utd have always been a mixture of bringing through great youth players alongside the big spending wheras Jose only seems to do the latter, he doesn't have the patience to bring through youth players. He looks as if he doesn't want to be there, that has been his demeanour all summer and I think he is just waiting for the sack now. In the short term he can be one of the best coaches of all time as he has shown on numerous occasions, but it seems he doesn't have the mental strength to make it through the rough patches which is what separates him from the greats. I can't see him going back to Spain or Italy so there aren't many big clubs left for him once he finishes at Man Ud, probably only PSG / Bayern Munich left on the list for him. I'm sure he'd have many smaller offers too but I'm not convinced his heart is still in it, perhaps a break from football would be the best thing for him. He can be a real character at times but for the last 5 years he has been a miserable old git.
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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Aug 28, 2018 8:31:40 GMT
Keep him there, he's doing a fantastic job.
For the neutral fan
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Post by berahinosgoals on Aug 28, 2018 8:34:05 GMT
Given the choice i think mourhino would rid himself of half of that man utd team tbh, maybe he's in the same boat as us in that nobody wants to buy his first team average joes on big money contracts? The difference is he is in his 3rd year there, he has had plenty of transfer windows to get rid of players he doesn't want - I can't think of anyone in their squad who wouldn't easily find a new club even if Man Utd had to subsidise some of their wages. Mourinho has bought the big names in that squad and spent plenty of money, I'm surprised they went for him in the first place though as Man Utd have always been a mixture of bringing through great youth players alongside the big spending wheras Jose only seems to do the latter, he doesn't have the patience to bring through youth players. He looks as if he doesn't want to be there, that has been his demeanour all summer and I think he is just waiting for the sack now. In the short term he can be one of the best coaches of all time as he has shown on numerous occasions, but it seems he doesn't have the mental strength to make it through the rough patches which is what separates him from the greats. I can't see him going back to Spain or Italy so there aren't many big clubs left for him once he finishes at Man Ud, probably only PSG / Bayern Munich left on the list for him. I'm sure he'd have many smaller offers too but I'm not convinced his heart is still in it, perhaps a break from football would be the best thing for him. He can be a real character at times but for the last 5 years he has been a miserable old git. I think they went for him in fear of falling so far behind man city tbh, he was the outstanding candidate at the time and with a winning pedigree
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2018 8:42:17 GMT
Good post that benjamin. I guess you must hate them as much as I do. I would love it, just love it, if that club were to internally combust, or should I say, eternally!!!!!!! Lol..
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Post by Staying up for Grandadstokey on Aug 28, 2018 9:00:16 GMT
He's done this many times before. What's everyone talking about? Everyone is talking about mourinho and not how shit his team is. Classic deflection tactics. Let's just hope he stays their for as long as possible. If ever there was one he is it...a billionaires Tony pulis. A billionaires Tony Pulis . I like that. Quote of the year.
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Post by stokief on Aug 28, 2018 9:10:19 GMT
I find it so hard to believe he's just so incredibly ordinary nowadays. He really was something special once upon a time He should never've fallen out with Eva Carneiro!
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Post by eddyclamp on Aug 28, 2018 9:13:10 GMT
I heard somewhere that due to the fact he recently signed a new contract it would cost the shit £50m to sack him.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Aug 28, 2018 9:21:02 GMT
He's been shite at Man Utd but he's still managed to win
League Cup Europa League Community Shield (for what it's worth)
Not too bad really is it? They've won the most amount of points in the PL after Man City.
He's still a great manager IMO, I just think he's run his course there - onto the Portugal managers job.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Aug 28, 2018 9:26:00 GMT
He's been shite at Man Utd but he's still managed to win League Cup Europa League Community Shield (for what it's worth) Not too bad really is it? They've won the most amount of points in the PL after Man City. He's still a great manager IMO, I just think he's run his course there - onto the Portugal managers job. Guardiola has spent £600 million in two years, even including Manchester United how does anybody compete with that? If you cant win everything and look good doing it with that kind of spending it really is time to pack in, it's not an achievement it's a purchase. The premiership is not a competition it's a farce. It's sickening how the pundits rave on about man city & pep. A transfer spend cap & wage cap is much needed in the premiership but it will never happen
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2018 9:33:11 GMT
He's been shite at Man Utd but he's still managed to win League Cup Europa League Community Shield (for what it's worth) Not too bad really is it? They've won the most amount of points in the PL after Man City. He's still a great manager IMO, I just think he's run his course there - onto the Portugal managers job. Guardiola has spent £600 million in two years, even Manchester United. how does anybody compete with that? The premiership is not a competition it's a farce. It's sickening how the head pundits rave on about man city & pep. A transfer spend cap & wage cap is much needed in the premiership but it will never happen It's all relative, 12-15 years ago Chelsea spent £340m under Mourinho in his 3 seasons there and that's before wages are taken into account: www.transfermarkt.com/jose-mourinho/spielertransfers/trainer/781/plus/0?station_id=2174 Looking at transfers fees in todays money you can probably double or treble that and then some. Liverpool have spent like crazy too. It has always been the case in the premier league, the only team in recent times who haven't bought the title is Leicester.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Aug 28, 2018 9:34:45 GMT
Guardiola has spent £600 million in two years, even Manchester United. how does anybody compete with that? The premiership is not a competition it's a farce. It's sickening how the head pundits rave on about man city & pep. A transfer spend cap & wage cap is much needed in the premiership but it will never happen It's all relative, 12-15 years ago Chelsea spent £340m under Mourinho in his 3 seasons there and that's before wages are taken into account: www.transfermarkt.com/jose-mourinho/spielertransfers/trainer/781/plus/0?station_id=2174 Looking at transfers fees in todays money you can probably double or treble that and then some. Liverpool have spent like crazy too. It has always been the case in the premier league, the only team in recent times who haven't bought the title is Leicester. Well aware of it mate but it's getting more and more ridiculous every year. It's not a competition it's just a rich list
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Post by enuntio on Aug 28, 2018 9:35:06 GMT
He was pre season favourite to get sacked first
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Post by ethers26 on Aug 28, 2018 9:59:50 GMT
Once it's starts going wrong for him, it never gets back to right. Man Utd should dump him now if they want something from their season. MNF Carragher and Neville were spot on re Mourinho. You have to bankroll him year after year to get the biggest names and players, otherwise it doesn't work out. Carragher said "He's a manager for today, not tomorrow."
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Post by wagsastokie on Aug 28, 2018 10:21:33 GMT
Keep him there, he's doing a fantastic job. For the neutral fan Yes I agree keep him there But then I’m not neutral I hate the glory hunting wankstains with every breath I take
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 28, 2018 10:35:44 GMT
Zidane seems to be where the smart money is. He's still spent loads even without Pogba and Lukaku. He's spent £67m on centre halves alone and is now bleating that he needs another one. As far as playing catch-up goes, he has an attacking quartet of Lukaku, Rashford, Martial, Pogba. That should be more than capable of mounting a better challenge than the one he's put forward. He's neutering them. would zidane really make a huge difference though? Given the choice i think mourhino would rid himself of half of that man utd team tbh, maybe he's in the same boat as us in that nobody wants to buy his first team average joes on big money contracts? It seems he's bought Sanchez though because he was on offer and he can't really fit him in. Could Wenger be in the frame if he goes? Buying someone because they’re available but don’t fit in is bad management though isn’t it? I don’t see why he’d need rid of half the team - he signed a lot of them himself and there’s a hell of a lot of talent there? ZZ is unproven as a league manager really but they need rid of Mourinho.
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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Aug 28, 2018 10:36:50 GMT
Keep him there, he's doing a fantastic job. For the neutral fan Yes I agree keep him there But then I’m not neutral I hate the glory hunting wankstains with every breath I take The only time I'm neutral is when they play Arsenal. Still then I want them both to lose 8 nil.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 28, 2018 10:39:40 GMT
I'm not having that. Mourinho has spent over £300m since he's been there, they shouldn't be 19 points off the title hunt, like they were last year. To spend that money and still play eye-wateringly negative football really is unforgivable. How about he actually has a go at some coaching and improves some players? You know, like Guardiola, Klopp and Pochettino have done? More players have regressed under Mourinho than have improved. I’m no Mourinho fan but he he’s still bagged a Europa League and a League Cup, it’s time Klopp and Pochettino backed up their promise with actual trophies.... Klopp certainly has to win something soon. Pochettino I think has done a remarkable job with or without a trophy.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 28, 2018 11:52:19 GMT
He’s quite clearly lost his marbles.
It’s a crying shame as he was unquestionably the best in the business at one point, now I’m expecting him to start eating crayons on the touchline at any moment.
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Post by kustokie on Aug 28, 2018 12:10:30 GMT
I'm not having that. Mourinho has spent over £300m since he's been there, they shouldn't be 19 points off the title hunt, like they were last year. To spend that money and still play eye-wateringly negative football really is unforgivable. How about he actually has a go at some coaching and improves some players? You know, like Guardiola, Klopp and Pochettino have done? More players have regressed under Mourinho than have improved. Not denying he's spent a fortune but what has guardiola spent in that time? On gbp v merit it seems pochettino is the outstanding manager in the league. Mourhino has spunked far too much on lukaku & pogba, don't forget though when he took over he was all ready playing catch up. Them two players have taken nearly half of his transfer spending. I'm intrigued to see who they would appoint if he leaves? Can't see pochettino moving to a rival. Also, Spurs spent nothing in the Summer and just focused on refining what they had already built.
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Post by kustokie on Aug 28, 2018 15:42:52 GMT
Given the choice i think mourhino would rid himself of half of that man utd team tbh, maybe he's in the same boat as us in that nobody wants to buy his first team average joes on big money contracts? The difference is he is in his 3rd year there, he has had plenty of transfer windows to get rid of players he doesn't want - I can't think of anyone in their squad who wouldn't easily find a new club even if Man Utd had to subsidise some of their wages. Mourinho has bought the big names in that squad and spent plenty of money, I'm surprised they went for him in the first place though as Man Utd have always been a mixture of bringing through great youth players alongside the big spending wheras Jose only seems to do the latter, he doesn't have the patience to bring through youth players. He looks as if he doesn't want to be there, that has been his demeanour all summer and I think he is just waiting for the sack now. In the short term he can be one of the best coaches of all time as he has shown on numerous occasions, but it seems he doesn't have the mental strength to make it through the rough patches which is what separates him from the greats. I can't see him going back to Spain or Italy so there aren't many big clubs left for him once he finishes at Man Ud, probably only PSG / Bayern Munich left on the list for him. I'm sure he'd have many smaller offers too but I'm not convinced his heart is still in it, perhaps a break from football would be the best thing for him. He can be a real character at times but for the last 5 years he has been a miserable old git. I agree. A footballer’s career is very short and players are aware of Mourhino’s reputation, which means he may have trouble recruiting the very best, especially when there are better (dare I say younger?) managers that understand and know the modern player and how to best out of them. Yelling, screaming and blaming everyone but yourself doesn’t work anymore. Pep, Pooch and Klipklop know this and they have teams that will knock down walls for them. Say what you like about Raheem Sterling but he is clearly better more disciplined player under Pep than he ever was under previous managers. Hughes is a similar old-school manager who needs to change his ways or find another profession.
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Post by nott1 on Aug 28, 2018 16:42:35 GMT
He's been rubbish all throughout his Utd career Surely deserves to be sacked Lindelof makes wollscheid look like beckenbauer Wolly wouldn't ever look like Beckenbauer!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2018 17:05:30 GMT
Bring back Moyes 😁
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