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Post by RAF on Aug 23, 2018 18:58:23 GMT
Everyones mistake was believing the 'We've learned lessons' type of bullshit spewed from the incompetents in charge. We all got excited thinking we would have a great season and it's all come crashing down as we have bought ineffective shite, not got rid of deadwood and our manager is 'Alan Balling' us into fucking oblivion with shit tactics shit selections and unfathomable subs. Maybe you will see what the fucking fuss is about now you monumental fucking cretin.
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Post by skip on Aug 23, 2018 18:59:46 GMT
Snowflakes. The lot of yer. Been traveling 2hrs in and 2hrs out for 27 yrs and most of it was shit. Your a Stoke fan or your not end off. but this after 4 shit games with a new manager ..Alan Ball ,,,,,,,,,I was there. Snowflakes, fucksake. Went to my first game in 1979 and stayed through the very bleak years but last night was as bad as anything that has come before.
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Post by luke2u on Aug 23, 2018 18:59:49 GMT
I almost have forgotten how it feels to win, so it doesn't bother me as much as it used to. The win at Swansea didn't mean anything at the time, so I hardly remember it.
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Post by Davef on Aug 23, 2018 19:01:32 GMT
You DO care though.
That's why you're on here ranting and raving.
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Post by stokeson on Aug 23, 2018 19:02:22 GMT
Skip I agree with you but not going isn't the going to help and no I don't know what is.
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Post by stonescfc on Aug 23, 2018 19:02:44 GMT
I still enjoy the match day experience (meeting my father in law in the pub, buying my copy of the oatcake etc.). It all starts to go wrong at 3.00pm - The tripe on the pitch ruis it and I’m told I’m horrible to be around for the rest of the evening after another loss. The saddest thing for me is my 9 year old has had a season ticket for the last 4 years and it breaks my heart to watch him have to watch at the moment and the shit he got from his ‘mates’ all wearing their Man Utd, Liverpool, etc kits (some have got more than one teams kits). When I was his age the players were my hero’s.. my lad laughs at the current crop as if it’s some kind of comedy / Tragedy play!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 19:05:20 GMT
I put £100 on a Stoke win yesterday, i really thought we were gong to win...Oh well, I'll Stick to the Premiership.
I won't bet on us again.
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Post by skip on Aug 23, 2018 19:05:48 GMT
Skip I agree with you but not going isn't the going to help and no I don't know what is. I get that too, and if I had more spare cash and getting to a game wasn't a logistical pain in the arse as it is for me, I would even have a season ticket. Given last night, right now, it's extremely difficult to imagine summoning up the energy (and cash) to do it again any game soon.
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 23, 2018 19:06:03 GMT
That's the sad thing . Ive tried to get angry about it but just keep laughing at how crap we have become. No Pride No Passion NO IDEA Just about sums it up I’ve gone from frustration to anger Followed by bewilderment to Total apathy And now it’s becoming a parody and is becoming amusing (In a bad way ) There was a moment in the second half when Williams miskicked a clearance into Ryan's bollocks and when the ball dropped to Fletcher he played a simple pass 10 yards behind the intended target. It was comedy gold to be fair.
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Post by skip on Aug 23, 2018 19:06:55 GMT
I still enjoy the match day experience (meeting my father in law in the pub, buying my copy of the oatcake etc.). It all starts to go wrong at 3.00pm - The tripe on the pitch ruis it and I’m told I’m horrible to be around for the rest of the evening after another loss. The saddest thing for me is my 9 year old has had a season ticket for the last 4 years and it breaks my heart to watch him have to watch at the moment and the shit he got from his ‘mates’ all wearing their Man Utd, Liverpool, etc kits (some have got more than one teams kits). When I was his age the players were my hero’s.. my lad laughs at the current crop as if it’s some kind of comedy / Tragedy play!! My nipper said that the best thing about yesterday was the oatcakes from the barge. No argument from me there.
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Post by stubbo1 on Aug 23, 2018 19:16:15 GMT
50 years - half a bloody century. Season ticket holder - 250 mile round trip. I don’t know how long I have the stomach for this any more
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Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 23, 2018 19:35:46 GMT
Everyones mistake was believing the 'We've learned lessons' type of bullshit spewed from the incompetents in charge. We all got excited thinking we would have a great season and it's all come crashing down as we have bought ineffective shite, not got rid of deadwood and our manager is 'Alan Balling' us into fucking oblivion with shit tactics shit selections and unfathomable subs. Maybe you will see what the fucking fuss is about now you monumental fucking cretin. H Can you simplify what your point(s) are
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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Aug 23, 2018 19:43:51 GMT
I have surprised myself tonight, a 200 mile round trip, couple of pints with a decent chat with friends and family in the cricket club and then an absolute comedy performance. The performance was that bad, I was surprised to find I no longer care, at the end we shrugged our shoulders and left. Maybe 2 years of dross have just worn me down to this. I certainly don’t feel the need to repeat the experience any time soon, and definitely feel that not renewing my season ticket of 15 years is a blessed relief. I had hoped that Stoke would come roaring back and make me feel that the decision was folly, but that looks a long way off. Maybe it’s the exiled Stokies that leave first, its an expensive and timely do, and with little cheer it’s easy to stay away. At the minute it feels like the end of a relationship that’s run it’s course, and with no green shoots of recovery insight , maybe it’s beyond rescuing. Sad times. The only thing that keeps me going and doing the god knows how many miles round trip from Salford and back, is I get to see the rents for my troubles.
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Post by sutekh on Aug 23, 2018 19:56:23 GMT
Saw my first game in 1965 and have been a season ticket holder since 1983 but unfortunately my wife was registered disabled earlier this year and coupled with the 400 mile round trip for each home game I had to say enough is enough. The strange thing is I haven’t missed it one bit and I haven’t even bothered to watch any of our televised games either.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 20:00:35 GMT
I can understand people’s sentiments entirely.
You feel the relationships run it’s course, it’s no longer fun and it’s got to that point where you feel your partner can’t hurt you anymore than they already have. You really don’t care if they disappear into the sunset and you never see them again. Infact you wish they would because for you it’s over and you vow ‘never again’. You’ll never care again, never fall again and that way they can’t hurt you.
But you know what... you know only too well that one day in the future they’ll make you smile again. One day they’ll do something and you’ll remember why you fell in love in the first place. Your defences will crumble into dust, you’ll try to fight it but you’ll give in, you know you will, because for all the hurt they’ve caused you, all the heartache, all the misery, all the pain, somewhere deep inside that flame you held still flickers. It never dies. Sometimes it grows dim but it’s always there, waiting to burn brightly again.
We are in a relationship that’s often rocky, sometimes the blazing rows and fights seem to come all too often but when it’s good it’s amazing and you just can’t help declaring your undying love again.We all know it. We are hopelessly devoted to Stoke City.
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Post by shrewspotter on Aug 23, 2018 20:10:16 GMT
I have surprised myself tonight, a 200 mile round trip, couple of pints with a decent chat with friends and family in the cricket club and then an absolute comedy performance. The performance was that bad, I was surprised to find I no longer care, at the end we shrugged our shoulders and left. Maybe 2 years of dross have just worn me down to this. I certainly don’t feel the need to repeat the experience any time soon, and definitely feel that not renewing my season ticket of 15 years is a blessed relief. I had hoped that Stoke would come roaring back and make me feel that the decision was folly, but that looks a long way off. Maybe it’s the exiled Stokies that leave first, its an expensive and timely do, and with little cheer it’s easy to stay away. At the minute it feels like the end of a relationship that’s run it’s course, and with no green shoots of recovery insight , maybe it’s beyond rescuing. Sad times. you do care, you wouldn't have written that if you didn't care enormously Someone once said there are 7 ( I think) stages of grief, Denial-Pain-Anger-deppression-upward turn-reconstruction-acceptance br] I'm afraid your at stage 1, denial. I am at 3 👍
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Post by Milkie on Aug 23, 2018 20:14:03 GMT
I can understand people’s sentiments entirely. You feel the relationships run it’s course, it’s no longer fun and it’s got to that point where you feel your partner can’t hurt you anymore than they already have. You really don’t care if they disappear into the sunset and you never see them again. Infact you wish they would because for you it’s over and you vow ‘never again’. You’ll never care again, never fall again and that way they can’t hurt you. But you know what... you know only too well that one day in the future they’ll make you smile again. One day they’ll do something and you’ll remember why you fell in love in the first place. Your defences will crumble into dust, you’ll try to fight it but you’ll give in, you know you will, because for all the hurt they’ve caused you, all the heartache, all the misery, all the pain, somewhere deep inside that flame you held still flickers. It never dies. Sometimes it grows dim but it’s always there, waiting to burn brightly again. We are in a relationship that’s often rocky, sometimes the blazing rows and fights seem to come all too often but when it’s good it’s amazing and you just can’t help declaring your undying love again.We all know it. We are hopelessly devoted to Stoke City. That’s the 2nd paragraph I didn’t write; and also part of the problem, the powers at be know they had us at “hello”
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 23, 2018 20:26:01 GMT
I am glad in a way that all it has taken for me to watch a Stoke game these past few years is to turn on my pc. I dread to think what choice I'd make if I had to do some of the journeys some of you lot have been doing every week for years.
I am back in November with work and it coincides with a three game week for us. I am speaking at a conference in London on the Tuesday and face a rush up to watch us play Derby on the Wednesday (having already come up to see the QPR home game at the weekend) before heading back down to London for meetings the day after, and taking in the Reading away game before I fly back. I was really looking forward to that week not so long ago, the highlight of my autumn/winter. If I do indeed go to the games, if things carry on as they are now, it will most likely be out of a sense of duty rather than out of any excitement in looking forward to them, or just a chance to catch up with some old and good friends.
They are sucking the fun out of it for all of us. Of course, us oldies have been there before, but the glorious missed opportunities of the past couple of years, and the rank mismanagement at all levels, coupled with the modern footballers' "couldn't care less" attitude, somehow seems to make it worse this time.........or maybe we are all just sick and tired of being sick and tired.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Aug 23, 2018 20:34:31 GMT
Glad it's not just me then .........
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Post by stokiemart83 on Aug 23, 2018 21:15:15 GMT
I have surprised myself tonight, a 200 mile round trip, couple of pints with a decent chat with friends and family in the cricket club and then an absolute comedy performance. The performance was that bad, I was surprised to find I no longer care, at the end we shrugged our shoulders and left. Maybe 2 years of dross have just worn me down to this. I certainly don’t feel the need to repeat the experience any time soon, and definitely feel that not renewing my season ticket of 15 years is a blessed relief. I had hoped that Stoke would come roaring back and make me feel that the decision was folly, but that looks a long way off. Maybe it’s the exiled Stokies that leave first, its an expensive and timely do, and with little cheer it’s easy to stay away. At the minute it feels like the end of a relationship that’s run it’s course, and with no green shoots of recovery insight , maybe it’s beyond rescuing. Sad times. I think that all the excitement has gone now we've been in the prem 10 years, before we got in there, it was a dream for us to ever get in the top division, but now having 10 years of most weeks getting slaughtered away from home and majority of home game (last few years) it for boring, it was quite nice to think this season that every game we play we could win (how wrong I was)!😬 But even if we did get promoted back into the prem, would we really be as excited as we were 10+years ago!? I wouldn't be, the thought of getting dicked every week and last on motd, just doesn't get me excited anymore!
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Post by royegg on Aug 23, 2018 22:27:15 GMT
Snowflakes. The lot of yer. Been traveling 2hrs in and 2hrs out for 27 yrs and most of it was shit. Your a Stoke fan or your not end off. but this after 4 shit games with a new manager ..Alan Ball ,,,,,,,,,I was there. Snowflakes, fucksake. Went to my first game in 1979 and stayed through the very bleak years but last night was as bad as anything that has come before. Ive been going since 1965, I go home and away so if Im a snowflake so be it, I,ll be there on saturday and at WBA and Sheff Weds. been thru the lot Ball, Kamara ,Jordan, Bates etc. I am a Stoke fan end of but Im sorry to say its not 4 shit games its 2 years of shit. And we are on a slippery slope to oblivion if it continues. Last night was up there with the worst Ive seen. I truly hope GR can sort it out but have the people in charge got his hands tied. Snowflakes MY ARSE !!!!!!!
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Post by broadwayroundabout on Aug 23, 2018 22:52:32 GMT
Mills out
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 24, 2018 9:08:17 GMT
Milkie has pretty much summed up my feelings at the moment. I too gave up my season ticket this summer. Not, to tell the truth, because we got relegated - I gave it up for health reasons and the decision was taken long before relegation was a fact. The 270 mile round trip 20+ times a season really wasn't doing me any good and I was getting home (especially after night matches) feeling more dead than alive. But, despite the lack of a season ticket I always intended (and still intend) to make it to some games each season. But the way the team is playing (or isn't playing!) at the moment I'm not getting the urge to make the trip to Stoke any time soon. If I still lived in North Staffordshire I expect I would still be one of the faithful who make the pilgrimage to the ground on matchdays - even if it was only out of habit. I wouldn't feel too bad about giving up 3 hours of my time to support the club I have supported for over 60 years. But now that each game takes up pretty much 9 or 10 hours of my life, they are going to have to play with a damned sight more passion than they are showing at the moment, if they want to see me for more than a couple of times this season. Who to blame? No one person is to blame and I don't buy the theory that the owners don't care. I think I blame Hughes and senior admin staff and the transfer debacles over the past few years for where we are now. I never expected us to stay in the Premier League for ever - but I did expect that, when we got relegated, we would be able to ship out our highest waged players for reasonable money and use that money to rebuild. The opposite has happened, the players who cost us the most to buy tend to earn the most and tend to be on the longest contracts - and with a few exceptions - they are so poor that nobody wants them! ![:o](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/7TTgAtwUz19SBi0cvrCX.gif) Until they drop off the wage bill I don't see us turning things round in any meaningful way. I remember marveling at the way some PL clubs had mismanaged their transfers so as to give themselves serious problems when relegation happened - I never thought we'd be one of them. But we are - and getting out of the hole we have dug for ourselves will not be quick or easy. ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/4tzqvp1fxEemag_TAXLJ.gif) John, hope your health improves very soon...one thing is sure, watching Stoke at the moment will not make you feel any better, so staying away is probably the best bet I have to believe it WILL improve and then those trips won't seem so painful ![8-|](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/rY_vRFLA3mqqdMbEG4cF.gif) Don't worry about my health - it isn't actually very debilitating at all. I have been type 2 diabetic for years - as was my mother. It is well controlled with insulin and the ONLY real side effect I have is that I SOMETIMES get sleepy before the end of a long day. Unfortunately this means that if I do get sleepy on match days it is in the car on the way home. I did often car share but none of the people I car shared with live less than an hours drive from me so the last 45 minutes of my journey (from J36 on the M6 to home) was ALWAYS in the car on my own - not the best place to be if you suddenly get sleepy! But, LONG car journeys apart, I feel fine and can do everything I have always been able to do.
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Post by banx10 on Aug 24, 2018 19:52:49 GMT
I find it so difficult to give a fuck for me anymore. It's just feels bloody ridiculous that after all we've been through for 20 years, we finally get a leader & style to be successful & we throw it all away.
I honestly can't get any joy back with this dumb club anymore.
I feel if we can go down to League One, where we came from & just play shit for 10 years or so, we can start again & rebuild.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 20:29:08 GMT
I find it so difficult to give a fuck for me anymore. It's just feels bloody ridiculous that after all we've been through for 20 years, we finally get a leader & style to be successful & we throw it all away. I honestly can't get any joy back with this dumb club anymore. I feel if we can go down to League One, where we came from & just play shit for 10 years or so, we can start again & rebuild. You still banging on about Pulis 😴
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Post by banx10 on Aug 24, 2018 20:36:29 GMT
90th min.
Ball straight into the box, TP famously arm raised leaping in the air.
Look at them fans, that used to be us.
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Post by RAF on Aug 24, 2018 20:51:58 GMT
I find it so difficult to give a fuck for me anymore. It's just feels bloody ridiculous that after all we've been through for 20 years, we finally get a leader & style to be successful & we throw it all away. I honestly can't get any joy back with this dumb club anymore. I feel if we can go down to League One, where we came from & just play shit for 10 years or so, we can start again & rebuild. Bye then! Where we came from? H
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Post by johnnypotter on Aug 24, 2018 21:52:34 GMT
Don't ever stop supporting the club we all love just because of the incompetent tossers running the club. As the great philosopher Norman Stanley Fletcher so succinctly said ''Don't let the bastards grind you down''.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 21:53:57 GMT
Best way of feeling better when we are shit is to back the other team - when we lose to totally numbs the pain £25 win Hull City tomorrow - try it
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 24, 2018 22:07:48 GMT
This is the shittest its been for me.
I was there through the chic bates then brian little times, been going since 1988 but in those darkest times we were a club with no money and it wasn't often you had two seasons on the bounce where you couldn't win a game.
This time feels worse because we have the money there, we were one of the most stable and established clubs in the premier league, but we have been shit for three years. Constantly shit. And all our transfer decisions are laughable, it's like we've self destructed.
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