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Post by realstokebloke on Aug 20, 2018 15:53:21 GMT
So from an Albion fans perspective he is absolutely terrible. I've seen worse players play us over the years but not many worse who played reasonably regularly in the PL for us. As a winger he doesn't create goals and doesn't score goals. Personally I don't think he's particularly good defensively either but as he runs around a lot and puts a shift in there can sometimes be a (false) impression he is. In 3 seasons for us he got 4 goals, 4 assists and 23 yellow cards which suggests again he is pretty poor going forward and although has plenty of effort, isn't actually a good defender. Someone like Dwight Gayle is an excellent Championship striker who can't quite cut it in the PL as the level is higher. I'd guess Tom Ince would be another example of this type of player. McClean is not someone who is going to dramatically improve at a lower level as the attributes he does posses (running a lot) will not be more or less effective in either league and the ones that would benefit by playing against weaker players (dribbling, scoring goals, getting in goal scoring positions) he doesn't really have. In the Championship he won't be a complete waste of space as a squad player at best, but if he started every game for you I'd wager my house he wouldn't hit double figures for goals or assists which isn't good enough for a team that (in theory at last) should be challenging at the top and be in control of the majority of games. With the Berahino deal you guys were unlucky to an extent. There was a player in there somewhere which you took a punt on and it hasn't worked out. With McClean the performances you have seen so far are exactly what you paid the money for. Oh for that to have been his scouting report on GR's desk while he was still "monitoring" him.
And (no disrespect fella) it's not as if it takes a professional scout / manager to hit this particular nail on the head.
Woeful, woeful signing.
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Aug 21, 2018 14:28:31 GMT
Post by FullerMagic on Aug 21, 2018 14:28:31 GMT
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Aug 21, 2018 14:31:27 GMT
Post by drfishy on Aug 21, 2018 14:31:27 GMT
I'm not liking hearing the excuses why people are't performing so soon.
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Aug 21, 2018 14:38:04 GMT
Post by realstokebloke on Aug 21, 2018 14:38:04 GMT
Haha.
Said GR wouldn't see it that way (that we need to 'waste' a loan spot to replace McClean already - on the Summer Transfers thread).
He has been just dire so far and exactly that: a waste.
But, of course, he has to back his man now.
So, if like SB, we're stuck with him, let's just hope it works and they can both actually do what it no doubt says they can on their respective twitter profiles - something along the lines of "play football professionally".
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Aug 21, 2018 14:45:03 GMT
Post by george2again on Aug 21, 2018 14:45:03 GMT
Absolute twaddle from Rowett (that means he playing on Wednesday when he should not be). His form may improve but hes never going to hit the level we need, hes just not good enough. As posted previously we cant get promoted carrying a non attacking player in an attacking position. I have to say we have never had the players to play one up front and neither have we now.
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Aug 21, 2018 15:25:33 GMT
Post by drfishy on Aug 21, 2018 15:25:33 GMT
The summary from the Albion fan yesterday shows we are probably seeing what we should expect:
As a winger he doesn't create goals and doesn't score goals. Personally I don't think he's particularly good defensively either but as he runs around a lot and puts a shift in there can sometimes be a (false) impression he is.
In 3 seasons for us he got 4 goals, 4 assists and 23 yellow cards which suggests again he is pretty poor going forward and although has plenty of effort, isn't actually a good defender.
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Aug 21, 2018 15:40:39 GMT
Post by redstriper on Aug 21, 2018 15:40:39 GMT
A bit soon to write him off imo.
He could be the new john walters - runs around a lot, irish, divides fans, doesn't often beat his man. But to be that he needs absolutely sweat blood for us every single time he pulls on the shirt.
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Aug 21, 2018 15:53:47 GMT
Post by roylandstoke on Aug 21, 2018 15:53:47 GMT
A bit soon to write him off imo. He could be the new john walters - runs around a lot, irish, divides fans, doesn't often beat his man. But to be that he needs absolutely sweat blood for us every single time he pulls on the shirt. So far his ball control has made Walters look like Messi.
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Aug 21, 2018 18:30:44 GMT
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Post by stokiebis on Aug 21, 2018 18:30:44 GMT
Anyone thinking it's De ja by with managers n shite signings could it be the managers want different targets n end up scholes n Cartwright blowing that list and getting the shite ones in .there were plenty of rumours n ex players saying Hughes didn't want some of his signings .it's looking the same all over again n look at badou them pair of numpties signed him with no manager
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Aug 21, 2018 18:31:58 GMT
Post by loosestools on Aug 21, 2018 18:31:58 GMT
WTF is Da ja by?
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Aug 21, 2018 18:34:06 GMT
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Post by stokiebis on Aug 21, 2018 18:34:06 GMT
Obviously spell checker .but not hard to work out
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Aug 21, 2018 18:40:07 GMT
Post by loosestools on Aug 21, 2018 18:40:07 GMT
Obviously spell checker .but not hard to work out I thought you might be Jamaican, or talking 'gansta'
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 21, 2018 19:15:59 GMT
Rowett is certainly right that the best is yet to come from him, it simply can't get much worse!
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Post by neddy on Aug 22, 2018 9:48:01 GMT
Rowett is certainly right that the best is yet to come from him, it simply can't get much worse! [/quote If Choupo is still here at the month end McClean should then be benched.
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Post by bobby1eye on Aug 22, 2018 19:49:52 GMT
What does he bring to the side apart from moaning at the ref and getting yellow cards.
Piss off.
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Aug 22, 2018 19:50:16 GMT
Post by Jimm on Aug 22, 2018 19:50:16 GMT
Just kicked off with him and Butland
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 22, 2018 19:51:24 GMT
One of the worst players I've seen at stoke.
Fuck me, what have we done here
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Aug 22, 2018 19:51:50 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 19:51:50 GMT
What does he bring to the side apart from moaning at the ref and getting yellow cards. Piss off. They are literally all shit
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Aug 22, 2018 19:58:20 GMT
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Post by bobby1eye on Aug 22, 2018 19:58:20 GMT
What does he bring to the side apart from moaning at the ref and getting yellow cards. Piss off. They are literally all shit I quite agree but don't say it too loud,we'll get fucking shot.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 22, 2018 20:41:09 GMT
He’s been absolutely atrocious. His efforts for the penalty and tracking his man were beyond a joke.
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Aug 22, 2018 21:06:29 GMT
Post by wuzza on Aug 22, 2018 21:06:29 GMT
I thought he might be ok but he’s just getting worse.
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Aug 22, 2018 21:06:39 GMT
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Post by milky on Aug 22, 2018 21:06:39 GMT
On the evidence so far an abomination of a signing
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Aug 22, 2018 21:07:52 GMT
Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 22, 2018 21:07:52 GMT
He's a complete hypocrite always bawling and moaning at his own player but totally useless himself.
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Aug 22, 2018 21:07:54 GMT
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 22, 2018 21:07:54 GMT
I’ve genuinely played with pub footballers who are twice the player he is.
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Post by DC1863 on Aug 22, 2018 21:08:51 GMT
Would have had any of Preston/Brentford/Wigan’s wingers over him in a heartbeat.
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Aug 22, 2018 21:08:59 GMT
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Post by bobby1eye on Aug 22, 2018 21:08:59 GMT
One of the worst players I've seen at stoke. Fuck me, what have we done here I've pressed the like button but fook me do I not like in the slightest.
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Aug 22, 2018 21:09:55 GMT
Post by houstonsteve on Aug 22, 2018 21:09:55 GMT
Odious person obviously (not even talking politics here). Atrocious footballer and his lack of professionalism towards the referee was embarrassing for him, he could easily have been sent off for two yellow cards for verbals towards the ref. Please take the hit and release him.
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Aug 22, 2018 21:11:50 GMT
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 22, 2018 21:11:50 GMT
This transfer window is going to be remembered as a disaster in the history of the club.
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Aug 22, 2018 21:12:53 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 21:12:53 GMT
So basically as a lot of us said:
He's wank, we need pace on the wings which he doesnt have.
Can't cross a ball.
Is a walking yellow card.
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Aug 22, 2018 21:13:24 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 21:13:24 GMT
This transfer window is going to be remembered as a disaster in the history of the club. Worse than the roof blowing off...
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