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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 2, 2018 17:00:29 GMT
You can't ban a player for over reacting pain. Oh yes you can. Comes under seeking to gain an unfair advantage for me , just the same as diving. I had to explain to my 13 year old Grandson why a grown man was rolling around like he'd been shot in the leg by a 40 cal. I told him players make lots of money for being cheats now, but I'd rather you became a man than a rich cheat. We would have kicked him in the balls to give him something to cry over then branded him a maad arse cheat for LIFE. I'd rather roll around or bite someone and be a winner than act like a "man" and lose the game.
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Post by potterspele on Jul 2, 2018 17:02:46 GMT
It's the opposite of being competitive. If he was competitive he would be showcasing he is better than the competition on a level playing field not attempting to have a player sent off to gain an advantage through feigning injury. It's just cheating. He is the 2nd best player on the pitch lol. Which is partly why it's so galling. Any player cheating, particularly targeting fellow professionals like he does in such a pathetic way, is appalling but as one of the world's best players it's his responsibility to be above all the underhand shenanigans and be a role model to others. Sadly he's tarnishing his own reputation on the world's biggest stage by cheating. He may well have a cabinet full of trophies at the end of his career but if he continues to play act and cheat to try and get players sent off then that will be part of the legacy he leaves. Look at Maradona, brilliant as he was that handball and his ban in 94 are bigger talking points now than his world cup win.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 17:03:33 GMT
He's an absolute disgrace. Somebody needs to give him a real nasty tackle and give him something to roll around for. I can't stand the media love-in for Brazil but I absolutely detest Neymar as he's everything that's wrong with football today. When he starts his theatrics the referee, other players and the media should all laugh at him and show him up for the fraud that he is.
Utter tosser !
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Post by Boothen on Jul 2, 2018 17:15:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 17:25:20 GMT
Just a shame that an unbelievable footballer is being remembered for his diving rather than his skills. No class whatsoever
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 2, 2018 17:30:00 GMT
The sooner that players start getting banned for blatant cheating the better. I’d love it if he missed out on the final because of a booking for simulation. Really hope France or Belgium beat them and he cry’s like a baby.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 2, 2018 17:45:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 17:54:26 GMT
Oh yes you can. Comes under seeking to gain an unfair advantage for me , just the same as diving. I had to explain to my 13 year old Grandson why a grown man was rolling around like he'd been shot in the leg by a 40 cal. I told him players make lots of money for being cheats now, but I'd rather you became a man than a rich cheat. We would have kicked him in the balls to give him something to cry over then branded him a maad arse cheat for LIFE. I'd rather roll around or bite someone and be a winner than act like a "man" and lose the game. But part of being a MAN as you put it is honesty as well as fair play. Glad I'm not a MAN in your world if that's the example.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 17:54:33 GMT
Yet the media continue to absolutely drool over him - I've read a report on the game today with the headline "Mexico bamboozled by Neymar magic" !
It goes into great detail about his part in the goals with absolutely no mention whatsoever of his pathetic play acting.
It's like the old story of the emperor's new clothes - somebody should have the guts to stand up and call him the cheat that he actually is instead of this continual sycophantic grovelling about him.
He's a complete and utter tosser and should be globally humiliated when he does it again - he's a downright embarrassment.
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Post by shipshape on Jul 2, 2018 18:00:45 GMT
The Mexican deserved at least a yellow by today's rules. And Neymar tried to con the ref so also needs punishing. Why can't both happen?
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Post by PenkPonther on Jul 2, 2018 18:07:42 GMT
What's truly sad to me, more so than Neymar being a crybaby, is that by far the worse crime of the Mexican thug slyly trying to hurt a fellow professional isn't even deemed worthy of discussion any more.
How many of those who are enraged about Neymar's over-reaction even know the name of the initial aggressor?
Almost none, because cynicism and thuggery is just taken for granted in football nowadays. It's clear to me personally that the majority of players at all levels of football have no talent for creatively expressing themselves on a football field, but instead play a brand of anti-football consisting of;
a) fouling, b) shirt-pulling, c) wrestling people to the ground, d) obstructing... and of course, e) kicking opposition players up in the air if they try the ultimate sin, "showboating with the ball a bit".
But sadly a similar majority of fans will happily put up with all of that, and only vent their spleen when someone on the receiving end rolls around a bit afterwards.
It's a shame, but the next time we're watching 22 talentless Championship cloggers serving up their own talentless brand of anti-football, perhaps we should remember that we sometimes get the football (or conspicious lack of it) that we deserve!
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 2, 2018 18:09:42 GMT
In all fairness bollocks it gets you respect Who the fuck cares about respect. People that have tried hard to keep there own self respect
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 2, 2018 18:17:46 GMT
I'd rather roll around or bite someone and be a winner than act like a "man" and lose the game. But part of being a MAN as you put it is honesty as well as fair play. Glad I'm not a MAN in your world if that's the example. You're a dinosaur mate.
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 2, 2018 18:23:03 GMT
What's truly sad to me, more so than Neymar being a crybaby, is that by far the worse crime of the Mexican thug slyly trying to hurt a fellow professional isn't even deemed worthy of discussion any more. How many of those who are enraged about Neymar's over-reaction even know the name of the initial aggressor? Almost none, because cynicism and thuggery is just taken for granted in football nowadays. It's clear to me personally that the majority of players at all levels of football have no talent for creatively expressing themselves on a football field, but instead play a brand of anti-football consisting of; a) fouling, b) shirt-pulling, c) wrestling people to the ground, d) obstructing... and of course, e) kicking opposition players up in the air if they try the ultimate sin, "showboating with the ball a bit". But sadly a similar majority of fans will happily put up with all of that, and only vent their spleen when someone on the receiving end rolls around a bit afterwards. It's a shame, but the next time we're watching 22 talentless Championship cloggers serving up their own talentless brand of anti-football, perhaps we should remember that we sometimes get the football (or conspicious lack of it) that we deserve! Just out of interest are you old enough to have watched football in the seventies Now there was real cynical thuggish behaviour on the football pitch When football was played by men Someone kicked the shit out of you You got up and kicked the shit out of them You didn’t roll about screaming and crying for only a minute later to make a bigger comeback than Lazarus Modern football mirroring modern life full of bloody snowflakes
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Post by kristoff on Jul 2, 2018 18:27:42 GMT
But part of being a MAN as you put it is honesty as well as fair play. Glad I'm not a MAN in your world if that's the example. You're a dinosaur mate. I’m seriously hoping your joking with all the discussion. If not I don’t think you realise how many people are laughing their arse off at you. If you have to cheat to win your automatically telling everyone you can’t win honestly. Bending a rule to most would be acceptable, but stating that doing anything no matter how much it’s breaking the rules is just sad, pitiful and hilariously showing the complete opposite of what your claiming.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 2, 2018 18:34:59 GMT
I’m seriously hoping your joking with all the discussion. If not I don’t think you realise how many people are laughing their arse off at you. If you have to cheat to win your automatically telling everyone you can’t win honestly. Bending a rule to most would be acceptable, but stating that doing anything no matter how much it’s breaking the rules is just sad, pitiful and hilariously showing the complete opposite of what your claiming. Did you not read the part when I said I don't give a fuck about what anybodys opinion is of me? If I could feign an injury to get a guy sent off on the World Cup stage I'd do it. Cry all you want on the forums about it, but I'd be the one progressing through to the next stage of a tournament. Neymar doesn't give a fuck, Sergio Ramos doesn't give a fuck and neither does Suarez. They're winners.
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Post by ParaPsych on Jul 2, 2018 18:36:28 GMT
Most of the human race. It’s shameful to feign such injury in such a fucking pathetic way. Go back and watch the clips of pele having the shit kicked out of him in 1966 and he didn’t moan half as much that’s why in the eyes of millions even if Neymar breaks his Brazil Goal scoring record he will never be as great. If you think the way to live your life is to lie and cheat your way through it I pity your family and friends and by the way don’t bother replying as your not interested if what I saids fair or if I respect you as you have already stated 👍 I don't care what anyone thinks about me or my opinion. I don't think Neymar cares either, I'm sure he's celebrating. Yes you do. You've proven it time and again on here.
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Post by kristoff on Jul 2, 2018 18:39:07 GMT
I’m seriously hoping your joking with all the discussion. If not I don’t think you realise how many people are laughing their arse off at you. If you have to cheat to win your automatically telling everyone you can’t win honestly. Bending a rule to most would be acceptable, but stating that doing anything no matter how much it’s breaking the rules is just sad, pitiful and hilariously showing the complete opposite of what your claiming. Did you not read the part when I said I don't give a fuck about what anybodys opinion is of me? If I could feign an injury to get a guy sent off on the World Cup stage I'd do it. Cry all you want on the forums about it, but I'd be the one progressing through to the next stage of a tournament. Neymar doesn't give a fuck, Sergio Ramos doesn't give a fuck and neither does Suarez. They're winners. Doesn’t give a shit what people thinks yet gets salty as shit every single time someone disagrees with him pmsl Just to point out btw, I think you meant losers. You may not have been thinking clearly in your keyboard rage 👍
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Post by PenkPonther on Jul 2, 2018 18:51:25 GMT
Wagsastokie, you've made a correct observation that I am not quite old enough to have watched football in the 1970s (I was born in 1972).
I did however find myself watching some footage of old 1970s Stoke matches recently, and was impressed by how hard-as-nails pretty much all of the players looked back then.
E.g. I imagine that Neymar vs Alan Bloor would have been a very one-sided physical encounter!
I guess the likes of Greenhoff and Conroy would have been my heroes though, had I been a fan in that era, rather than any of the hard men. I've got no problem with "hard but fair" players though.
My biggest bugbear in the modern game is probably players who use their arms to wrestle and obstruct more skilful players from going past them. (The game's called "football"; your arms should have no place in it!)
I don't know if wrestling tactics also went on a lot back then though, or whether that's a more recent development.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 2, 2018 18:54:43 GMT
I’m seriously hoping your joking with all the discussion. If not I don’t think you realise how many people are laughing their arse off at you. If you have to cheat to win your automatically telling everyone you can’t win honestly. Bending a rule to most would be acceptable, but stating that doing anything no matter how much it’s breaking the rules is just sad, pitiful and hilariously showing the complete opposite of what your claiming. Did you not read the part when I said I don't give a fuck about what anybodys opinion is of me? If I could feign an injury to get a guy sent off on the World Cup stage I'd do it. Cry all you want on the forums about it, but I'd be the one progressing through to the next stage of a tournament. Neymar doesn't give a fuck, Sergio Ramos doesn't give a fuck and neither does Suarez. They're winners. No they’re cheating scum bags
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 19:00:12 GMT
A nasty, cheating, diving, scummy bottom dwelling leach
all that talent - and he plays like that
Pele must be fucking horrified watching him besmirch the green and gold like a cowardly pretentious shit stain
(people will kick you because you are a top player - fucking live with it)
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Post by RAF on Jul 2, 2018 19:35:52 GMT
Poor mans Jon Walters.
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Post by malteser68 on Jul 2, 2018 20:10:50 GMT
Hope someone breaks both his legs
Cant stand the asswipe
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 20:25:13 GMT
But part of being a MAN as you put it is honesty as well as fair play. Glad I'm not a MAN in your world if that's the example. You're a dinosaur mate. I'll take that as a complement
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Post by mattador78 on Jul 2, 2018 20:26:45 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jul 2, 2018 20:29:06 GMT
Oh yes you can. Comes under seeking to gain an unfair advantage for me , just the same as diving. I had to explain to my 13 year old Grandson why a grown man was rolling around like he'd been shot in the leg by a 40 cal. I told him players make lots of money for being cheats now, but I'd rather you became a man than a rich cheat. We would have kicked him in the balls to give him something to cry over then branded him a maad arse cheat for LIFE. I'd rather roll around or bite someone and be a winner than act like a "man" and lose the game. I wouldn't. What a sad view.
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Post by stokeyank on Jul 2, 2018 20:36:42 GMT
Someone just needs to run right through him. Not a tackle that tears up is knee and keeps him from playing. Just have a 50-50 ball that he gets to first and a guy twice his size just keeps running through it and him. Done that a few times in my day playing. Was ALWAYS worth the yellow card!
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 2, 2018 20:37:06 GMT
I'll take that as a complement You might be better off taking it as a compliment 😀
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 20:53:46 GMT
I'll take that as a complement You might be better off taking it as a compliment 😀 It's not easy typing in the dark when you are a one fingered dinosaur with one eye squinting like a thinkysaurus .
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 2, 2018 21:28:51 GMT
I think you're missing the point a bit. When you play Monopoly (substitute whichever board game you prefer), do you pinch money off the bank when nobody's looking and then say you're just being competitive because you're a natural winner? When you play Call of Duty (substitute whichever computer game you prefer), do you make sure that you've got the latest wallhacking aimbots on your computer so that you win without lifting a finger, and then say that you're just being competitive because you're a natural winner? Rules exist for a reason. When players deliberately undermine them by cheating - specifically diving, play-acting, exaggerating contact etc - then the game is rendered a farce and victory has no merit. You're the winner, but your achievements are hollow and worthless. Are you really comparing the World Cup to Monopoly and Call of Duty. I think you're missing the point a bit. We're talking about the fundamental principles of sport here. The rules are the game. If you make up your own rules, cheat and win, then what's the point? You may as well be that person on the playground who picks the ball up in both hands and runs the length of the pitch before booting it in and celebrating like you've won the World Cup.
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