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Post by bigcashprizes on Apr 22, 2018 18:49:32 GMT
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He’s had time all week to work out a plan to trouble them. Dyche just thought, they’ll keep booting it up at Crouch, we’ll just soak it up, stay in the game and take our chance.
That last 15 minutes was amongst the most abject piles of shit I’ve seen in thirty years.
He hadn’t got a clue what to do. Not even going to go into the Bauer madness.
Fuck him off, he’s a bullshitting, clueless charlatan
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Post by stokemark on Apr 22, 2018 18:54:40 GMT
1 He’s had time all week to work out a plan to trouble them. Dyche just thought, they’ll keep booting it up at Crouch, we’ll just soak it up, stay in the game and take our chance. That last 15 minutes was amongst the most abject piles of shit I’ve seen in thirty years. He hadn’t got a clue what to do. Not even going to go into the Bauer madness. Fuck him off, he’s a bullshitting, clueless charlatan Spot on - from what I can see the players don't really want to play for him any more than they did for Hughes
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Post by bigcashprizes on Apr 22, 2018 18:58:06 GMT
1 He’s had time all week to work out a plan to trouble them. Dyche just thought, they’ll keep booting it up at Crouch, we’ll just soak it up, stay in the game and take our chance. That last 15 minutes was amongst the most abject piles of shit I’ve seen in thirty years. He hadn’t got a clue what to do. Not even going to go into the Bauer madness. Fuck him off, he’s a bullshitting, clueless charlatan Spot on - from what I can see the players don't really want to play for him any more than they did for Hughes We wunna be able to keep any of the better ones. They’ll already have been on the blower to their agents saying “i’m a decent footballer, get me out of here” Very depressing
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Apr 22, 2018 20:41:35 GMT
5* for me, looked like we were going to take the 3 points but WTF was that second half about? And the subs FFS move Bauer to RB and put an attacking player on the left wing. I know his choices are limited but I can't help thinking that the blame is at the managers feet. I am so fucking pissed off ATM. Gouranga.
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Post by ursemboys on Apr 22, 2018 21:14:25 GMT
nobody can look worse that Diouf its just not posiible,you never turned up late for work,i would play him with Cambell on the bench ,It cannot be any worse than playing Donkey “You never turned up late for work?” Are you serious? He’s doing it consistently. And if I ‘had a point to prove’I’d be there before everyone else and there when everyone else had gone’. not sure he is late consistently ,but yes I agree he does himself no favours ,but he his way better than donkey Diouf ,by the way I suppose you didn't mind Fuller been late all the time and all the other misdemeanours he had with Pulis over the years also Beattie had mayor run in's with Pulis but that was ok was it ? ,and yes fuller was special before you point out he scored goals and did the job on the pitch.we cannot just keep hoping donkey just might score ,three games now he has missed sitters ,today was to many times in my book
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Post by vahl on Apr 22, 2018 21:20:48 GMT
I saw the Burnley vs. Chelsea game mid week and I thought Ireland would have started today in a 4-2-3-1. Paul Lambert was there too, in the stands, seeing it all.
Even though Chelsea played 2 strikers, they had Pedro picking up the ball in the hole and he ran the show. Burnley's midfield pushes up the field more than any other team besides Man City. We've just gone 2 banks of 4 and hoped for the best today. Ireland would have enjoyed playing from the start.
Even at 1-0 up playing 4-4-2 he should have been psyching them right up in the changing room during HT and getting them flying out of the blocks looking for a 2nd goal. We came out looking like the away side. Paul Lambert may as well grow a goatee and call himself Sean.
He's then put all the subs names in one of Tony Pulis old caps he'd left in the office and picked one out for shits and gigs. I am sure that's how he is making these decisions.
Just because we didn't lose, I think 4 is a fair score. Shite.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 22, 2018 21:25:45 GMT
“You never turned up late for work?” Are you serious? He’s doing it consistently. And if I ‘had a point to prove’I’d be there before everyone else and there when everyone else had gone’. not sure he is late consistently ,but yes I agree he does himself no favours ,but he his way better than donkey Diouf ,by the way I suppose you didn't mind Fuller been late all the time and all the other misdemeanours he had with Pulis over the years also Beattie had mayor run in's with Pulis but that was ok was it ? ,and yes fuller was special before you point out he scored goals and did the job on the pitch.we cannot just keep hoping donkey just might score ,three games now he has missed sitters ,today was to many times in my book He is consistently late. If he’d only been late once it wouldn’t have been widely reported would it? He wouldn’t have his manager digging him out in public and media reports of senior players pissed off with his attitude. It was ok for Fuller, yes, because he was doing the business. Berahino emphatically isn’t and as dreadful as Diouf has been Berahino has shown nothing as a Stoke player to suggest he’s a better option. He’s not fit. He’s not quick. He’s not strong. He’s not sharp. He doesn’t get into good positions. What exactly does he do that makes him a better option than any of the other strikers at the club?
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Post by The man from Utch on Apr 22, 2018 21:28:29 GMT
I went from what the fuck?, to ok why i don't know, but i think this will work, to dropping Bauer to poor subs, to thinking he inherited a shit unfit team, to consinstently playing Mama and making bad substitutions, to players obviously not giving a shit , to wishing Pulis was in charge at this moment, to we are fucked, then looking at Swansea's remaining fixtures, Soton and ours and thinking you know what(talking to myself), fuck of up the Vale if your not "We'll be with you every step along the way". Stoke until Die.
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Post by wagsastokie on Apr 22, 2018 21:30:04 GMT
Spot on - from what I can see the players don't really want to play for him any more than they did for Hughes We wunna be able to keep any of the better ones. They’ll already have been on the blower to their agents saying “i’m a decent footballer, get me out of here” Very depressing There won’t have been many phone calls
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 22, 2018 21:30:47 GMT
I don't think Lambert did much wrong to be honest. He's given Shaq plenty of matches to keep us up but it wasn't working so went 442 and tried to double up our compromised forwards. Don't understand the anger at the subs either. 7* for me Ireland isn't a winger, why play him there.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Apr 22, 2018 21:42:20 GMT
6 - starting to lose patience with him
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Post by philb on Apr 22, 2018 21:45:01 GMT
Campbell, berahino, Ireland behind crouch. We have options. To play that inept tosser is bone idle lazy arsed management Berahino, brilliant - another who’s bone idle and lazy. Campbell’s clearly not ready. Don’t think you can blame him for going 442 today, if he doesn’t people are screaming for him to go and attack. We did attack, for the first 20 minutes then tried to defend for the other 70 odd.
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Post by philb on Apr 22, 2018 21:50:27 GMT
I don't think Lambert did much wrong to be honest. He's given Shaq plenty of matches to keep us up but it wasn't working so went 442 and tried to double up our compromised forwards. Don't understand the anger at the subs either. 7* for me Ireland isn't a winger, why play him there. What’s with the ‘he’s given Shaq plenty of matches to keep us up’ There are 9 other outfield players that could and should contribute to that why put it all on Shaqs head?
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Post by ursemboys on Apr 22, 2018 21:54:04 GMT
Ireland isn't a winger, why play him there. What’s with the ‘he’s given Shaq plenty of matches to keep us up’ There are 9 other outfield players that could and should contribute to that why put it all on Shaqs head? because he says he is the best player and the others are wank
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 22, 2018 22:04:20 GMT
Ireland isn't a winger, why play him there. What’s with the ‘he’s given Shaq plenty of matches to keep us up’ There are 9 other outfield players that could and should contribute to that why put it all on Shaqs head? Don't ask me but i'm guessing he meant gave him enough games at number 10 so decided to ditch it and go 4-4-2, I don't agree with it mind, we needed to change something but it didn't go any better.
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Post by fca47 on Apr 22, 2018 22:08:57 GMT
6.5 Missing sitters is killing us. Not sure he could do anything about that. Willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but the doubts starting to creep in.
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Post by stokieinaus on Apr 22, 2018 23:20:18 GMT
The comments for Lambert are the same comments made about Hughes. Excuses for Lambert having a poor squad but when you offer your services to the situation you have to take some responsibility. The problem is, we never try to win a game, we always try to hang on to one. They only looked a better side when we allowed them to play, which is the usual for Stoke.
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Post by The man from Utch on Apr 22, 2018 23:25:13 GMT
I hope whatever happens with Paul Lambert, we will respect that he took on what he did not have too much control over, we were fucked over with a team created by Mark Hughes that did not give a fuck about Stoke City, and when i say Stoke City i mean the support, you're fucked without that.
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Post by auntiegeorge on Apr 22, 2018 23:35:43 GMT
5*
A career as a circus clown awaits him.
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Post by kustokie on Apr 23, 2018 1:03:04 GMT
First Half 10. Second half -10. = 0. With his subs he literally snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. What was he thinking to take off Bauer and leave Johnson on the pitch? If he wanted to bring on Ireland, why didn’t take off Johnson and move Bauer. That would have been a very positive move. Dumb. Totally dumb.
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Post by NassauDave on Apr 23, 2018 2:25:01 GMT
2/10 for showing up. Fucking wank.
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Post by Gunslinger on Apr 23, 2018 5:25:56 GMT
6 for team selection and the first half, 0 for the complete shipwreck of the second half.
3 overall.
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Post by ColonelMustard on Apr 23, 2018 6:21:21 GMT
Ireland isn't a winger, why play him there. What’s with the ‘he’s given Shaq plenty of matches to keep us up’ There are 9 other outfield players that could and should contribute to that why put it all on Shaqs head? I'm not. I wanted Shaq more central eaelier in the season and it happened. I hoped he'd produce enough moments of magic here and there to get a few points. We've looked better but I dont think Shaq graced the role as I though he might and all our forwards flounder on their own. Sliding him out wide again and doubling was an ok move. I don't blame any single player. Ireland isn't a winger and he could have changed the formation again, agree.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 23, 2018 6:54:31 GMT
To be fair neither Shaq nor Ireland really played as wingers - both were tucked inside. But if you're doing that you need width from the full backs and he'd taken off the one most likely to provide that.
Pieters was actually decent going forward yesterday but you're going to struggle to get that from Zouma.
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Post by cousindupree on Apr 23, 2018 11:28:39 GMT
I was encouraged by the first half performance that we might hold on for a win. However the second half was an absolute car crash from Lambert. So he gets a 2 from me for the arm waving which in fairness he does pretty well.
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Post by Veritas on Apr 23, 2018 12:07:10 GMT
6* At least he didn't bring Cameron on. Mind you taking Bauer off finally broke the camels back for me as he was out best threat. Yes the Bauer sub was very odd, I could see the logic in brining Ireland on but surely he had to take off Diouf and push either Ireland or Shaqiri or even Allen up in support of Crouch.
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Post by westgatelakes on Apr 23, 2018 12:10:40 GMT
It`s a 6 from me.......he should not have picked Diouf, he should have taken Shaqiri off not Bauer, but the real reason we didn't win is because of a lack of quality for the level we are at. Lambert is partly to blame for this but the main blame needs to be shouldered elsewhere, one of whom is no longer at the club.
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Post by robstokie on Apr 23, 2018 13:33:18 GMT
3 - we were good for the first half hour, but that's about it. After half time, we started shitting ourselves, defended so deep and the outcome was inevitable. Dreadful subs yet again - on Sparky's level.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Apr 23, 2018 14:33:04 GMT
5* Got half the game totally right , cant be blamed for Diouf missing but once Burnley stepped up after half time he and his team were found wanting , bottom line is we are just not good enough
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Post by lordb on Apr 23, 2018 14:33:58 GMT
Thought Ireland had a positive impact, don't understand the criticism of bringing him on.
Diouf had a shocker,could have brought him off earlier.
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