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Post by Frogger Theft Auto on Mar 7, 2019 12:47:59 GMT
It’s not so much police numbers but the rules they are governed by Stop and search is apparently racist. Is knife carrying a largely non ejite thing (not that I’m naive to think it’s not happening there too” Give the police proper powers. Investigating knife crime is far Mar important than who called who what on twitter Build proper prisons to house these knife carrying cunts. Sentences must reflect the crime. Carrying a knife is as bad as using it. I agree with all of that apart from ‘it’s not so much police numbers’, because I think that has had the biggest impact. So I’d suggest all of your ideas AND chucking loads of boots on the street in these little scummers’ area to get in their face every night.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Mar 7, 2019 13:25:36 GMT
A bloke of West Indian origin was on LBC the other day and reckoned Somalian gangs are responsible for much of the knife crime in London. Don't know if its true, but he was local to the area its happening in. I told people on here years ago how the Somali (And Afghan) gangs are taking the violence to new levels. The old 'home grown' gangs used to threaten people with a good kicking, they've been complete run out of town by these new arrivals. They come from third world hell holes where life is meaningless, they don't just threaten to give you a kicking, they do stab you to death without hesitation.
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 7, 2019 13:34:56 GMT
Issue a statement that if caught carrying a knife you forfeit you’re human rights
Stick a extra couple of thousand police officers on the streets you can find them round the country making motorists lives hell And stop and search the little shits Build prison camps and lock the buggers up a couple of years in wooden huts in the middle of nowhere should give them time to reflect
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Post by prettything on Mar 7, 2019 13:50:35 GMT
Change is coming maybe Huddy was right after all, London the murder capital of the western world all overseen by Mr Sadiq Khan what a fantastic record he has. Knife crime is happening all over the country, mate. Is that Khans fault as well? Don’t talk nonsense.
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Post by felonious on Mar 7, 2019 13:51:38 GMT
They carried out a test stop and search of 300 individuals in Birmingham and approximately 15% were carrying knives. Target these fuckers, if as suggested the bulk of the problem lies in the BAME community then what's the problem with targeting them. It's hardly as if their communities are going to suffer with less knives on the streets.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Mar 7, 2019 14:16:59 GMT
You can have more police doing more stop and searches but unless the culture changes then knife crime will continue to be a problem. The threat of time in prison clearly isn’t enough to dissuade them.
How do you change the culture though?
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 7, 2019 15:16:17 GMT
You can have more police doing more stop and searches but unless the culture changes then knife crime will continue to be a problem. The threat of time in prison clearly isn’t enough to dissuade them. How do you change the culture though? Capital punishment worth a try ?
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 7, 2019 15:19:46 GMT
Change is coming maybe Huddy was right after all, London the murder capital of the western world all overseen by Mr Sadiq Khan what a fantastic record he has. Knife crime is happening all over the country, mate. Is that Khans fault as well? Don’t talk nonsense. In April 2018 it was the murder capital of the western world, seems that in the 11 months since it has spread all over he country though, I wonder why that is ? not slimy Sadiq's obviously.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Mar 7, 2019 15:20:05 GMT
You can have more police doing more stop and searches but unless the culture changes then knife crime will continue to be a problem. The threat of time in prison clearly isn’t enough to dissuade them. How do you change the culture though? Capital punishment worth a try ? Not for me it isn’t.
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 7, 2019 15:23:18 GMT
You can have more police doing more stop and searches but unless the culture changes then knife crime will continue to be a problem. The threat of time in prison clearly isn’t enough to dissuade them. How do you change the culture though? By making there time as guests of her majesty so unpleasant they will not risk a return
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 7, 2019 15:28:50 GMT
Capital punishment worth a try ? Not for me it isn’t. I didn't mean specifically for you unless you are guilty of course.
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Post by prettything on Mar 7, 2019 15:36:36 GMT
Knife crime is happening all over the country, mate. Is that Khans fault as well? Don’t talk nonsense. In April 2018 it was the murder capital of the western world, seems that in the 11 months since it has spread all over he country though, I wonder why that is ? not slimy Sadiq's obviously. Knife crime has been rising pretty much since the police cuts have closed a shed load of the police stations all over the country. No, nothing to do with Khan. No matter what that racist prick Katie Hopkins says.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 7, 2019 15:43:59 GMT
In April 2018 it was the murder capital of the western world, seems that in the 11 months since it has spread all over he country though, I wonder why that is ? not slimy Sadiq's obviously. Knife crime has been rising pretty much since the police cuts have closed a shed load of the police stations all over the country. No, nothing to do with Khan. No matter what that racist prick Katie Hopkins says. In April 2018 London was the murder capital of the Western World fact that trend has spread in our country since then, I wonder if the lack of Police recourses is the only cause of this ?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 7, 2019 15:51:48 GMT
A bloke of West Indian origin was on LBC the other day and reckoned Somalian gangs are responsible for much of the knife crime in London. Don't know if its true, but he was local to the area its happening in. I told people on here years ago how the Somali (And Afghan) gangs are taking the violence to new levels. The old 'home grown' gangs used to threaten people with a good kicking, they've been complete run out of town by these new arrivals. They come from third world hell holes where life is meaningless, they don't just threaten to give you a kicking, they do stab you to death without hesitation. Hardly gets a mention by the "immigration has been a boon to the country" lot, though, does it? Let's have the truth about these problems, and not skirt around aspects of them. I think it's true that a reduction in police numbers is a factor, but simply adding to them and opening youth clubs isn't getting to the heart of the problem.
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 7, 2019 16:19:28 GMT
In April 2018 it was the murder capital of the western world, seems that in the 11 months since it has spread all over he country though, I wonder why that is ? not slimy Sadiq's obviously. Knife crime has been rising pretty much since the police cuts have closed a shed load of the police stations all over the country. No, nothing to do with Khan. No matter what that racist prick Katie Hopkins says. Knife crime has also gone up since the reduction of stop and search It’s quite simple the majority of deaths involve members of the ethnic community and are committed by members of the ethnic community It is therefore logical that they would be a higher stop rate in the ethnic community They had a problem with this as did you’re average left wing Islington luvies They are partly responsible for the rise as they reduced the chances of getting caught with a knife You can put all the police on the streets you want but if you tie one hand behind there backs and restrict there powers It will be a complete waste of time If you are prepared to carry a knife you’re prepared to use a knife you become nothing better than scum Scum should be treated as scum Scum should have no rights
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Post by prettything on Mar 7, 2019 16:39:44 GMT
Stop and search is not a proven deterrent and is argued that it does more harm than good.
Poverty is the most common cause for a high crime rate,
The police cuts, closing of youth initiatives at grass route levels within the community’s have added to the problem .
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Mar 7, 2019 16:56:19 GMT
Stop and search is not a proven deterrent and is argued that it does more harm than good. Poverty is the most common cause for a high crime rate, The police cuts, closing of youth initiatives at grass route levels within the community’s have added to the problem . Don't talk bollocks..most Victims of crime are poor people. Scumbags will rob their next door neighbours or stab them without a second thought. Primarily, because they know very little will happen' Cut a few fingers off the toe-rags and the crime rate would plummet.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 7, 2019 17:02:35 GMT
Another death. What the fuck is going on?
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Post by prettything on Mar 7, 2019 17:03:17 GMT
Stop and search is not a proven deterrent and is argued that it does more harm than good. Poverty is the most common cause for a high crime rate, The police cuts, closing of youth initiatives at grass route levels within the community’s have added to the problem . Don't talk bollocks..most Victims of crime are poor people. Scumbags will rob their next door neighbours or stab them without a second thought. Primarily, because they know very little will happen' Cut a few fingers off the toe-rags and the crime rate would plummet. Not talking bollocks, dribble. Of course many victims of crime are poor people. That’s because most crime is in a poor area!
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Post by prettything on Mar 7, 2019 17:06:11 GMT
“Cut a few fingers off”
Great, let’s bring back beheading as well. Maybe throw cabbages at the peasents while we’re at it!
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Post by Northy on Mar 7, 2019 17:14:23 GMT
You can have more police doing more stop and searches but unless the culture changes then knife crime will continue to be a problem. The threat of time in prison clearly isn’t enough to dissuade them. How do you change the culture though? kill them, kill them all ..
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 7, 2019 17:22:15 GMT
Stop and search is not a proven deterrent and is argued that it does more harm than good. Poverty is the most common cause for a high crime rate, The police cuts, closing of youth initiatives at grass route levels within the community’s have added to the problem . Absolute bolocks I brought four sons up as a single parent with not a pot to piss in Youth facilities don’t make me laugh a park with a pond in the middle where you’re kids if they survived the leathel play equipment spent the rest of the time dodging dog shit or duck shit Did they grow up wanting to carry a knife did they hell For every scumbag that carries a knife there is someone else brought up in the same circumstances that chose to live a totally law abiding path Poverty an excuse for scum to be scum
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Post by prettything on Mar 7, 2019 17:24:58 GMT
Stop and search is not a proven deterrent and is argued that it does more harm than good. Poverty is the most common cause for a high crime rate, The police cuts, closing of youth initiatives at grass route levels within the community’s have added to the problem . Absolute bolocks I brought four sons up as a single parent with not a pot to piss in Youth facilities don’t make me laugh a park with a pond in the middle where you’re kids if they survived the leathel play equipment spent the rest of the time dodging dog shit or duck shit Did they grow up wanting to carry a knife did they hell For every scumbag that carries a knife there is someone else brought up in the same circumstances that chose to live a totally law abiding path Poverty an excuse for scum to be scum No, it’s not bollocks! It doesn’t matter what your own personal experience is, those are the facts. Higher crime rates are found in poorer areas. Simple .
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Post by potterenfrance on Mar 7, 2019 17:25:26 GMT
You can have more police doing more stop and searches but unless the culture changes then knife crime will continue to be a problem. The threat of time in prison clearly isn’t enough to dissuade them. How do you change the culture though? kill them, kill them all .. Kill who lol
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Post by potterenfrance on Mar 7, 2019 17:30:03 GMT
If police numbers dint make any difference to crime figures then why don't we get rid of all police. Waste of money lol
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Post by felonious on Mar 7, 2019 17:30:38 GMT
Stop and search is not a proven deterrent and is argued that it does more harm than good. Poverty is the most common cause for a high crime rate, The police cuts, closing of youth initiatives at grass route levels within the community’s have added to the problem . Absolute bolocks I brought four sons up as a single parent with not a pot to piss in Youth facilities don’t make me laugh a park with a pond in the middle where you’re kids if they survived the leathel play equipment spent the rest of the time dodging dog shit or duck shit Did they grow up wanting to carry a knife did they hell For every scumbag that carries a knife there is someone else brought up in the same circumstances that chose to live a totally law abiding path Poverty an excuse for scum to be scum Thinking back it was only that youth club that stopped me carrying a knife
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 7, 2019 17:42:13 GMT
Absolute bolocks I brought four sons up as a single parent with not a pot to piss in Youth facilities don’t make me laugh a park with a pond in the middle where you’re kids if they survived the leathel play equipment spent the rest of the time dodging dog shit or duck shit Did they grow up wanting to carry a knife did they hell For every scumbag that carries a knife there is someone else brought up in the same circumstances that chose to live a totally law abiding path Poverty an excuse for scum to be scum No, it’s not bollocks! It doesn’t matter what your own personal experience is, those are the facts. Higher crime rates are found in poorer areas. Simple . So are you denying that there are people who are brought up in the same area with the same social economic background are law abiding citizens Maybe be there is more crimes In poorer areas as there also tends to be a much higher population I’m quite sure that the people of stoke and Norfolk where I reside would love the amount of money spent on are schools and youth services as they spend in London per pupil Cornwall is one of the poorest areas in this country poorer than a lot of London boroughs What’s the rate of stabbings and violent crime in Cornwall
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Mar 7, 2019 17:48:50 GMT
I strongly recommend anyone to listen to the interview with New York's former police commissioner on 5Live half an hour ago. Basically his message was don't resort to stop and search as it doesn't work (they reduced from 700,000 a year to 10,000 ) , but you need lots of police tackling low-level crime , plus the social support element. His policies worked.
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Post by prettything on Mar 7, 2019 17:53:41 GMT
No, it’s not bollocks! It doesn’t matter what your own personal experience is, those are the facts. Higher crime rates are found in poorer areas. Simple . So are you denying that there are people who are brought up in the same area with the same social economic background are law abiding citizens Maybe be there is more crimes In poorer areas as there also tends to be a much higher population I’m quite sure that the people of stoke and Norfolk where I reside would love the amount of money spent on are schools and youth services as they spend in London per pupil Cornwall is one of the poorest areas in this country poorer than a lot of London boroughs What’s the rate of stabbings and violent crime in Cornwall I appreciate you agreeing with me about my original point. To compare Cornwall or Stoke with London relative to knife crime, then you have to talk about the science of criminology. Population mass , economic , age and ethnic diversity all contribute to the types of crime committed .
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 7, 2019 18:09:55 GMT
So are you denying that there are people who are brought up in the same area with the same social economic background are law abiding citizens Maybe be there is more crimes In poorer areas as there also tends to be a much higher population I’m quite sure that the people of stoke and Norfolk where I reside would love the amount of money spent on are schools and youth services as they spend in London per pupil Cornwall is one of the poorest areas in this country poorer than a lot of London boroughs What’s the rate of stabbings and violent crime in Cornwall I appreciate you agreeing with me about my original point. To compare Cornwall or Stoke with London relative to knife crime, then you have to talk about the science of criminology. Population mass , economic , age and ethnic diversity all contribute to the types of crime committed . I totally agree there are many things that contribute to the way people act I was pointing out that poverty is not the sole reason and it is very easy to use as a catch all excuse I just feel there isn’t much interest to look to hard at some of the reasons as they may find things they don’t like
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