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Post by essexstokey on Apr 6, 2018 19:22:35 GMT
That's another excuse. The weapon used to commit the crime is not the problem, same as guns are not the problem, sticks are not the problem, cars or rocks or hammers are not the problem. If that were true then everyone would have stabbed someone at some point as nobody goes a single day without encountering a bladed article. It's a people issue, not an inanimate object issue. Piss poor excuse for these violent out of control criminals but what do you expect from the left wing apologists brigade, the truth hurts so they have to try to spin it or deflect from the real root cause it is the snowflake way. Lets see these piss poor right wing apologists idiots that don't take the whole quote and quote out of context to make themselves look good and try and twist what was said taking tips of the tory press
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Post by oggyoggy on Apr 6, 2018 19:39:34 GMT
You shoehorn in a way to blame Muslims for anything and everything! Who said I was just talking about Muslims ? Making assumptions again ? I'm correct though Because of your racist track record on other threads. And you mentioned Sadiq Khan and were talking about demographics.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Apr 6, 2018 19:50:48 GMT
Piss poor excuse for these violent out of control criminals but what do you expect from the left wing apologists brigade, the truth hurts so they have to try to spin it or deflect from the real root cause it is the snowflake way. Lets see these piss poor right wing apologists idiots that don't take the whole quote and quote out of context to make themselves look good and try and twist what was said taking tips of the tory press No, you made a point about knives being "the problem", and then spoke about something completely different and unrelated. They were two separate points. And I'm not right wing or left wing, that's a childish way of looking at politics.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 6, 2018 19:58:39 GMT
Lets see these piss poor right wing apologists idiots that don't take the whole quote and quote out of context to make themselves look good and try and twist what was said taking tips of the tory press No, you made a point about knives being "the problem", and then spoke about something completely different and unrelated. They were two separate points. And I'm not right wing or left wing, that's a childish way of looking at politics. No, it's Tory bad, Labour good politics, mate. There is no other choice. I fucking despair at times. I don't recognise my own country anymore, and I am not allowed to be pissed off about it, for fear of being accused of hate crime. Meanwhile, the cunts that are ruining the country are excused at every turn. It's fucking sickening.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2018 20:05:42 GMT
Who said I was just talking about Muslims ? Making assumptions again ? I'm correct though Because of your racist track record on other threads. And you mentioned Sadiq Khan and were talking about demographics. Lose a debate so shout racism Bout right for a racist lefty
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 6, 2018 20:59:27 GMT
Piss poor excuse for these violent out of control criminals but what do you expect from the left wing apologists brigade, the truth hurts so they have to try to spin it or deflect from the real root cause it is the snowflake way. Lets see these piss poor right wing apologists idiots that don't take the whole quote and quote out of context to make themselves look good and try and twist what was said taking tips of the tory press It's off Joey ! Essex deserves you
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Post by woodstein on Apr 7, 2018 21:20:11 GMT
Perhaps Millwall fans are not so bad after all!
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 7, 2018 21:25:58 GMT
Perhaps Millwall fans are not so bad after all! But no one likes them so they don't count you would assume with all the bad press they get some left wing human rights liberals would be championing the poor lads.
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Post by stillgame4it on Apr 7, 2018 21:31:47 GMT
We have imported a load of medieval savages and now we are supposed to be surprised by the outcome?
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Post by oggyoggy on Apr 7, 2018 21:49:00 GMT
Because of your racist track record on other threads. And you mentioned Sadiq Khan and were talking about demographics. Lose a debate so shout racism Bout right for a racist lefty The irony being that i am not a lefty. I'm left of you, but so is Hitler.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 7, 2018 21:54:21 GMT
Who would have thought reducing police numbers would lead to an increase in certain types of crime?
It's a bit like under-funding the NHS and seeing it fall into crisis. Just can't see the link myself.
Still, at least the deficit has been reduced, albeit several years after promised. I'm sure that is a big consolation to the relatives of the victims and those who died on trolleys.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2018 21:58:13 GMT
Lose a debate so shout racism Bout right for a racist lefty The irony being that i am not a lefty. I'm left of you, but so is Hitler. You are a lefty and a self hater. I blame your upbringing
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 7, 2018 22:02:11 GMT
Who would have thought reducing police numbers would lead to an increase in certain types of crime? It's a bit like under-funding the NHS and seeing it fall into crisis. Just can't see the link myself. Still, at least the deficit has been reduced, albeit several years after promised. I'm sure that is a big consolation to the relatives of the victims and those who died on trolleys. I see Mr Khan is asking the police to step up stop and search after promising to eradicate it !, what does he mean by targeted who do you think he is alluding to ?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 7, 2018 22:06:31 GMT
Who would have thought reducing police numbers would lead to an increase in certain types of crime? It's a bit like under-funding the NHS and seeing it fall into crisis. Just can't see the link myself. Still, at least the deficit has been reduced, albeit several years after promised. I'm sure that is a big consolation to the relatives of the victims and those who died on trolleys. There might, just might, be more beds available if Labour hadn't deliberately flooded the country with immigrants. On knife crime, how about some of these wank stains not carrying knives with intent to kill? You know, just for the hell of it? I see Sadiq has imposed stop and search, now. The racist bastard!
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 7, 2018 22:11:28 GMT
Who would have thought reducing police numbers would lead to an increase in certain types of crime? It's a bit like under-funding the NHS and seeing it fall into crisis. Just can't see the link myself. Still, at least the deficit has been reduced, albeit several years after promised. I'm sure that is a big consolation to the relatives of the victims and those who died on trolleys. There might, just might, be more beds available if Labour hadn't deliberately flooded the country with immigrants. On knife crime, how about some of these wank stains not carrying knives with intent to kill? You know, just for the hell of it? I see Sadiq has imposed stop and search, now. The racist bastard! Lol, don't remember regular crises in the NHS year after year prior to 2010! And Saint Theresa had it in her gift to reduce immigration during her six years as Home Secretary but didn't! Not sure you can really blame this on Labour eight years after they left power, Tricky, when funding and immigration control has been down to the Tories for the last eight years! Pretty Little Boother tells us knives don't kill nor guns so why not just arm everyone with one? The biggest deterrent to crime? Knowledge that you'll be caught. Take that away and no surprises what happens. No-one to blame for this but the cuts to police funding and numbers. It won't kill you to admit that this is basically the result of the Tories desire to put getting rid of the deficit above everything else, the NHS, crime, disability payments etc etc.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 7, 2018 22:25:01 GMT
There might, just might, be more beds available if Labour hadn't deliberately flooded the country with immigrants. On knife crime, how about some of these wank stains not carrying knives with intent to kill? You know, just for the hell of it? I see Sadiq has imposed stop and search, now. The racist bastard! Lol, don't remember regular crises in the NHS year after year prior to 2010! And Saint Theresa had it in her gift to reduce immigration during her six years as Home Secretary but didn't! Not sure you can really blame this on Labour eight years after they left power, Tricky, when funding and immigration control has been down to the Tories for the last eight years! Pretty Little Boother tells us knives don't kill nor guns so why not just arm everyone with one? The biggest deterrent to crime? Knowledge that you'll be caught. Take that away and no surprises what happens. No-one to blame for this but the cuts to police funding and numbers. Both main parties have lied about immigration. Only UKIP were serious about tackling it. Its having an impact across the board. I can't even be arsed to list the effects it's having, but I know from personal experience that it's crippling council funding for a start. But it's wasted on Labour voters. They perpetuate it. Jezza adores it. We'll never agree, so I will leave it there.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 7, 2018 22:37:05 GMT
There might, just might, be more beds available if Labour hadn't deliberately flooded the country with immigrants. On knife crime, how about some of these wank stains not carrying knives with intent to kill? You know, just for the hell of it? I see Sadiq has imposed stop and search, now. The racist bastard! Lol, don't remember regular crises in the NHS year after year prior to 2010! And Saint Theresa had it in her gift to reduce immigration during her six years as Home Secretary but didn't! Not sure you can really blame this on Labour eight years after they left power, Tricky, when funding and immigration control has been down to the Tories for the last eight years! Pretty Little Boother tells us knives don't kill nor guns so why not just arm everyone with one? The biggest deterrent to crime? Knowledge that you'll be caught. Take that away and no surprises what happens. No-one to blame for this but the cuts to police funding and numbers. It won't kill you to admit that this is basically the result of the Tories desire to put getting rid of the deficit above everything else, the NHS, crime, disability payments etc etc. If it's that simple, why didn't Corbyn storm to victory?
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 7, 2018 23:49:15 GMT
Lol, don't remember regular crises in the NHS year after year prior to 2010! And Saint Theresa had it in her gift to reduce immigration during her six years as Home Secretary but didn't! Not sure you can really blame this on Labour eight years after they left power, Tricky, when funding and immigration control has been down to the Tories for the last eight years! Pretty Little Boother tells us knives don't kill nor guns so why not just arm everyone with one? The biggest deterrent to crime? Knowledge that you'll be caught. Take that away and no surprises what happens. No-one to blame for this but the cuts to police funding and numbers. Both main parties have lied about immigration. Only UKIP were serious about tackling it. Its having an impact across the board. I can't even be arsed to list the effects it's having, but I know from personal experience that it's crippling council funding for a start. But it's wasted on Labour voters. They perpetuate it. Jezza adores it. We'll never agree, so I will leave it there. If it's that simple why didn't UKIP storm to victory at the last election?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 8, 2018 7:55:32 GMT
Lol, don't remember regular crises in the NHS year after year prior to 2010! And Saint Theresa had it in her gift to reduce immigration during her six years as Home Secretary but didn't! Not sure you can really blame this on Labour eight years after they left power, Tricky, when funding and immigration control has been down to the Tories for the last eight years! Pretty Little Boother tells us knives don't kill nor guns so why not just arm everyone with one? The biggest deterrent to crime? Knowledge that you'll be caught. Take that away and no surprises what happens. No-one to blame for this but the cuts to police funding and numbers. It won't kill you to admit that this is basically the result of the Tories desire to put getting rid of the deficit above everything else, the NHS, crime, disability payments etc etc. If it's that simple, why didn't Corbyn storm to victory? Because lots of people think like you do. Because the largely right wing press paint him as a Czech spy or politicians like Rees-Mogg wrongly claim he voted against the good Friday agreement to smear him as an IRA sympathiser, the list goes on pre and post election. Throw enough mud and there are enough daft people it'll stick to who'll believe it. Best example of this for me was the experiment where dozens of people were shown Corbyn policies anonymously, agreed with them, then were shown whose policies they were and instantly changed their mind, despite saying they were a good idea just seconds previously! It's this kind of unthinking tribalism (see the Merkel's Lads thread for more evidence of it) that provides an answer to your question!
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 8, 2018 7:56:50 GMT
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 8, 2018 8:04:23 GMT
Both main parties have lied about immigration. Only UKIP were serious about tackling it. Its having an impact across the board. I can't even be arsed to list the effects it's having, but I know from personal experience that it's crippling council funding for a start. But it's wasted on Labour voters. They perpetuate it. Jezza adores it. We'll never agree, so I will leave it there. If it's that simple why didn't UKIP storm to victory at the last election? Because people who voted for them, previously, went back to the main parties(especially Labour), believing their concerns over immigration would be addressed. They assumed UKIP had done their job in helping to achieve Brexit, then went back to the old parties when it was secured. Jezza, of course, changed his tune completely on immigration for the General Election which duped traditional Labour voters into going back to Labour.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 8, 2018 8:07:30 GMT
If it's that simple, why didn't Corbyn storm to victory? Because lots of people think like you do. Because the largely right wing press paint him as a Czech spy or politicians like Rees-Mogg wrongly claim he voted against the good Friday agreement to smear him as an IRA sympathiser, the list goes on pre and post election. Throw enough mud and there are enough daft people it'll stick to who'll believe it. Best example of this for me was the experiment where dozens of people were shown Corbyn policies anonymously, agreed with them, then were shown whose policies they were and instantly changed their mind, despite saying they were a good idea just seconds previously! It's this kind of unthinking tribalism (see the Merkel's Lads thread for more evidence of it) that provides an answer to your question! That applies equally to Labour and Tory voters, though. It's why TDC tears his hair out on here, and why I would if I had any.
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Post by adbrightonstokie on Apr 8, 2018 8:11:45 GMT
Kids of past generations that didn’t give a fuck now breeding, bring into there crazy chaotic and feral world more kids, these kids get involved with gangs & crime etc, all the while shagging there brains out with lower class tramps. As this supplies them with an income to add to there pedalling , give them the celebrity and notoriety that social media brings, and you have gangs doing what they want how they want ! Not the polices fault in my eyes come from generations of not giving a toss about anything but themselves Wow! Seems like you know all about it, not to generalise or anything
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Post by wagsastokie on Apr 8, 2018 8:23:12 GMT
Who would have thought reducing police numbers would lead to an increase in certain types of crime? It's a bit like under-funding the NHS and seeing it fall into crisis. Just can't see the link myself. Still, at least the deficit has been reduced, albeit several years after promised. I'm sure that is a big consolation to the relatives of the victims and those who died on trolleys. I would argue there is sufficient police numbers in London They are just using them incorrectly How much money and police were wasted on the ted heath was a pedo scandle How much money and police have been used on the find maddie McCann debacle the ongoing Stephen Lawrence inquiry If the officers and money had been redirected a few years ago to stopping gang on gang violence You wouldn’t of seen this tread The above are just three examples I am sure you could find many more cases of the need of the met police to redirect resources Somehow I don’t see you looking to hard
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 8, 2018 8:40:34 GMT
If it's that simple why didn't UKIP storm to victory at the last election? Because people who voted for them, previously, went back to the main parties(especially Labour), believing their concerns over immigration would be addressed. They assumed UKIP had done their job in helping to achieve Brexit, then went back to the old parties when it was secured. Jezza, of course, changed his tune completely on immigration for the General Election which duped traditional Labour voters into going back to Labour. And what about the 2015 election - pre-Brexit and before Corbyn "duped" the electorate?
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Post by felonious on Apr 8, 2018 8:44:34 GMT
Who would have thought reducing police numbers would lead to an increase in certain types of crime? It's a bit like under-funding the NHS and seeing it fall into crisis. Just can't see the link myself. Still, at least the deficit has been reduced, albeit several years after promised. I'm sure that is a big consolation to the relatives of the victims and those who died on trolleys. I would argue there is sufficient police numbers in London They are just using them incorrectly How much money and police were wasted on the ted heath was a pedo scandle How much money and police have been used on the find maddie McCann debacle the ongoing Stephen Lawrence inquiry If the officers and money had been redirected a few years ago to stopping gang on gang violence You wouldn’t of seen this tread The above are just three examples I am sure you could find many more cases of the need of the met police to redirect resources Somehow I don’t see you looking to hard There was an interesting conversation with the assistant London police crime commissioner( Not sure about the title) from 2011 to 2016 and he was comparing Khan's reign unfavourably with Johnson's. He said that both had been under budget restraints but Johnson had prioritised community policing.
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Post by felonious on Apr 8, 2018 8:48:16 GMT
Both main parties have lied about immigration. Only UKIP were serious about tackling it. Its having an impact across the board. I can't even be arsed to list the effects it's having, but I know from personal experience that it's crippling council funding for a start. But it's wasted on Labour voters. They perpetuate it. Jezza adores it. We'll never agree, so I will leave it there. If it's that simple why didn't UKIP storm to victory at the last election? UKIP stormed the European election which was effectively a free vote on the EU for Labour and Conservative voters.
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Post by chuffedstokie on Apr 8, 2018 9:10:20 GMT
If the kids just walked out of the door without a weapon then problem solved. Or is that asking too much.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 8, 2018 9:23:59 GMT
Because lots of people think like you do. Because the largely right wing press paint him as a Czech spy or politicians like Rees-Mogg wrongly claim he voted against the good Friday agreement to smear him as an IRA sympathiser, the list goes on pre and post election. Throw enough mud and there are enough daft people it'll stick to who'll believe it. Best example of this for me was the experiment where dozens of people were shown Corbyn policies anonymously, agreed with them, then were shown whose policies they were and instantly changed their mind, despite saying they were a good idea just seconds previously! It's this kind of unthinking tribalism (see the Merkel's Lads thread for more evidence of it) that provides an answer to your question! That applies equally to Labour and Tory voters, though. It's why TDC tears his hair out on here, and why I would if I had any. I don't disagree, but you asked the question and I gave an answer. You have to remember that those of us who take part in these politics threads are the rarity. Most folk haven't got a clue about policies or politics in general. That's why papers and politicians say these things as they realise that its about as far and as deep as most people's interest goes. I don't think you should get to caught up by Miss Represented's frustration on here. He's another one who doesn't enjoy having his views challenged. In the spirit of fairness, however, he wasn't one of the posters leaping all over the German incident, so perhaps he's learning? If so, good on him.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 8, 2018 9:49:48 GMT
Who would have thought reducing police numbers would lead to an increase in certain types of crime? It's a bit like under-funding the NHS and seeing it fall into crisis. Just can't see the link myself. Still, at least the deficit has been reduced, albeit several years after promised. I'm sure that is a big consolation to the relatives of the victims and those who died on trolleys. I would argue there is sufficient police numbers in London They are just using them incorrectly How much money and police were wasted on the ted heath was a pedo scandle How much money and police have been used on the find maddie McCann debacle the ongoing Stephen Lawrence inquiry If the officers and money had been redirected a few years ago to stopping gang on gang violence You wouldn’t of seen this tread The above are just three examples I am sure you could find many more cases of the need of the met police to redirect resources Somehow I don’t see you looking to hard Ah, the old Tory classic response. Its not underfunding or resources, its waste and inefficiency. Used to say that about the NHS too. Now giving it more funds. Odd that!
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