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Post by felonious on Mar 10, 2019 18:02:05 GMT
Interesting article on the punishment for knife carrying.
This backs up something I heard on a radio discussion some days back. An expert was saying that knife crime is no higher than usual but there is a spike in the current figures. The current annual figures are the highest since 2010.
How many people actually go to prison for carrying a knife?
Official figures, published by the Ministry of Justice, show courts in England and Wales dealt with 21,101 knife cases in the year ending June 2018.
This was the highest number of offences since the year ending June 2010, when there were 22,688 cases.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47507456
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Post by felonious on Mar 10, 2019 18:02:42 GMT
....and what if colour is a criteria in that as I understand it the BAME community in England is over represented proportionately in the figures.
I'm sorry that you still have a problem with being stopped by the police. Perhaps it's time to let it go it may be clouding your judgement on all police stop and search cases.
Very presumptive, and wrong. I’m not angry anymore. Most of family my were police. I felt persecuted at the time, I’m 41 now. I don’t know how I would feel if it continued to happen to me, however. Let it go
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Post by prettything on Mar 10, 2019 18:03:32 GMT
Interesting article on the punishment for knife carrying.
This backs up something I heard on a radio discussion some days back. An expert was saying that knife crime is no higher than usual but there is a spike in the current figures. The current annual figures are the highest since 2010.
How many people actually go to prison for carrying a knife?
Official figures, published by the Ministry of Justice, show courts in England and Wales dealt with 21,101 knife cases in the year ending June 2018.
This was the highest number of offences since the year ending June 2010, when there were 22,688 cases.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47507456
That’s right. I think the peak of knife crime was in 1995. Interesting
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Post by felonious on Mar 10, 2019 18:23:25 GMT
Interesting article on the punishment for knife carrying.
This backs up something I heard on a radio discussion some days back. An expert was saying that knife crime is no higher than usual but there is a spike in the current figures. The current annual figures are the highest since 2010.
How many people actually go to prison for carrying a knife?
Official figures, published by the Ministry of Justice, show courts in England and Wales dealt with 21,101 knife cases in the year ending June 2018.
This was the highest number of offences since the year ending June 2010, when there were 22,688 cases.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47507456
That’s right. I think the peak of knife crime was in 1995. Interesting It's an odd one because if someone had put up a chart with knife crime going up year on year I'd have happily accepted it. Perhaps it is the fact that victims are getting younger or the fact that the reporting is higher than back in 2010.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 10, 2019 18:35:16 GMT
Surely they realise why they would be targeted, it is a result of the actions of individuals from their own communities, it is not difficult to understand is it if you are innocent you have nothing to worry about if not if you can't do the time don't do the crime. It may encourage the innocent amongst those communities to do more themselves to root out the bad apples, the biggest issue is the people who are committing these crimes they need identifying as quickly as possible if you haven't noticed it is now an epidemic, short term fix or not something has to done and as soon as possible. I agree, it is an epidemic. The “you don’t have anything to worry about if your innocent “ adage is very dangerous, though. You can apply that to everything. Phone tapping, internet snooping powers etc. Innocent people have regularly been searched, sometimes in double figures in the last five years. It makes their own neighbourhoods into a concentration camp if too much power is given away, whilst achieving very little. If Muslims were stopped and searched because most domestic terrorists are brown, it would divide communities and sometimes turn them into exactly what we are trying to avoid. I’m not saying stop and search isn’t a useful tool, but it should be used sparingly and backed by the police officers potential evidence for a search to be justified. Concentration Camp FFS ! what a stupid fcuking comparison to make what a drama queen. If you have nothing to worry about why would it bother you how many times you were stopped especially if you come from a community that has a major issue with knife crime ?
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Post by prettything on Mar 10, 2019 19:23:00 GMT
I agree, it is an epidemic. The “you don’t have anything to worry about if your innocent “ adage is very dangerous, though. You can apply that to everything. Phone tapping, internet snooping powers etc. Innocent people have regularly been searched, sometimes in double figures in the last five years. It makes their own neighbourhoods into a concentration camp if too much power is given away, whilst achieving very little. If Muslims were stopped and searched because most domestic terrorists are brown, it would divide communities and sometimes turn them into exactly what we are trying to avoid. I’m not saying stop and search isn’t a useful tool, but it should be used sparingly and backed by the police officers potential evidence for a search to be justified. Concentration Camp FFS ! what a stupid fcuking comparison to make what a drama queen. If you have nothing to worry about why would it bother you how many times you were stopped especially if you come from a community that has a major issue with knife crime ? Not dramatic at all. If you feel wary, maybe not want to go out and buy a pint of milk, because you feel you will be under suspicion and may get hassle from the police. You may feel like it.
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Post by vokeswagen on Mar 10, 2019 19:26:41 GMT
Very presumptive, and wrong. I’m not angry anymore. Most of family my were police. I felt persecuted at the time, I’m 41 now. I don’t know how I would feel if it continued to happen to me, however. Let it go Stop winking pal. Someone might take it the wrong way
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Post by thevoid on Mar 10, 2019 19:45:30 GMT
Let it go Stop winking pal. Someone might take it the wrong way Don't let it bother you, mate. It's just harmless bants on a messageboard. Chill your beans.
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Post by vokeswagen on Mar 10, 2019 19:51:36 GMT
Stop winking pal. Someone might take it the wrong way Don't let it bother you, mate. It's just harmless bants on a messageboard. Chill your beans. Don't let it bother you either then mate
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Post by thevoid on Mar 10, 2019 20:08:32 GMT
Don't let it bother you, mate. It's just harmless bants on a messageboard. Chill your beans. Don't let it bother you either then mate Sage words, mate.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 10, 2019 20:45:57 GMT
Concentration Camp FFS ! what a stupid fcuking comparison to make what a drama queen. If you have nothing to worry about why would it bother you how many times you were stopped especially if you come from a community that has a major issue with knife crime ? Not dramatic at all. If you feel wary, maybe not want to go our and buy a pint of milk, because you feel you on under suspicion and may get hassle from the police. You may feel like it. do you know what happened in Concentration camps ? fetching a bottle of milk would be the very least of your concerns.
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Post by vokeswagen on Mar 10, 2019 20:55:16 GMT
Not dramatic at all. If you feel wary, maybe not want to go our and buy a pint of milk, because you feel you on under suspicion and may get hassle from the police. You may feel like it. do you know what happened in Concentration camps ? fetching a bottle of milk would be the very least of your concerns. Do you know anything that's ever happened outside your bedroom? Often it seems not.
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Post by felonious on Mar 11, 2019 8:45:23 GMT
Let it go Stop winking pal. Someone might take it the wrong way Are you Voldemort?
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Post by vokeswagen on Mar 18, 2019 20:59:37 GMT
Stop winking pal. Someone might take it the wrong way Are you Voldemort? Are you Hairy Potter?
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 3, 2019 19:55:48 GMT
If I was a mother or father of a black teenage son or daughter in London I would welcome this;
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