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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 13, 2018 12:05:49 GMT
Lambert has never been an all out attack manager. For poor teams that does not work; the proven best policy is to stop the opposition and nick the occasional win. Lambert is the same school as Pulis, Allerdyce, Dyche, and Hughes in the end; stop the other team scoring is worth a point and build from there with a goal from a set piece or counter attack. What a manager says publicly ( "attack", "cup finals", etc.) isn't necessarily the same as what he actually does. You don't broadcast your tactics. We have actually come very close to "nicking" 3 points in the matches against Watford*, Brighton**, and Leicester*** and missed a sitter against Southampton. * we had the only clear cut chance to score: www.skysports.com/football/stoke-vs-watford/stats/373345** missed penalty *** Butland error Personally I think PL has taken the right approach. Stop the goals conceded****, establish fitness, play with more energy, and build from there. Regrettably he hasn't got a satisfactory striker to turn to; Coates says they tried to sign someone and failed. **** ManC have scored 85 times in 30 matches and scored less than 2 in only 6 matches. We're not going to 'nick' our way to safety Cokey. It's too late for that.
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Mar 13, 2018 12:17:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 12:17:33 GMT
Lambert has never been an all out attack manager. For poor teams that does not work; the proven best policy is to stop the opposition and nick the occasional win. Lambert is the same school as Pulis, Allerdyce, Dyche, and Hughes in the end; stop the other team scoring is worth a point and build from there with a goal from a set piece or counter attack. What a manager says publicly ( "attack", "cup finals", etc.) isn't necessarily the same as what he actually does. You don't broadcast your tactics. We have actually come very close to "nicking" 3 points in the matches against Watford*, Brighton**, and Leicester*** and missed a sitter against Southampton. * we had the only clear cut chance to score: www.skysports.com/football/stoke-vs-watford/stats/373345** missed penalty *** Butland error Personally I think PL has taken the right approach. Stop the goals conceded****, establish fitness, play with more energy, and build from there. Regrettably he hasn't got a satisfactory striker to turn to; Coates says they tried to sign someone and failed. **** ManC have scored 85 times in 30 matches and scored less than 2 in only 6 matches. We're not going to 'nick' our way to safety Cokey. It's too late for that. Agreed. How do we not nick it to safety with the abomination of a squad that we currently have? As you alluded to last week. We can't play football, can't really play direct and on the break due to a lack of pace. We can't really press high due to our forwards having intermittent work rate. What's left?
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Post by malisastokie on Mar 13, 2018 21:16:12 GMT
Yesterday we played a side with unlimited resource.
We got beaten 2 - 0
Not the end of the world.
My opinion we have been in every game bar today and you can put that down to Lambert!
For mine he has done well !!
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 14, 2018 10:10:53 GMT
We're not going to 'nick' our way to safety Cokey. It's too late for that. Agreed. How do we not nick it to safety with the abomination of a squad that we currently have? As you alluded to last week. We can't play football, can't really play direct and on the break due to a lack of pace. We can't really press high due to our forwards having intermittent work rate. What's left? As I said above, and for precisely the reasons you have listed, the Lambert policy is, like other managers I listed, to sit tight, aim to keep a clean sheet and try and nick the occasional win. It hasn't worked yet, but we have come close to winning a number of matches since PL came. To go on the attack with players who are not athletic, not good passers, don't score goals very, etc. often would be a recipe for disaster. For example as soon as we tried to attack West Ham to get level, they had free reign to attack us and score.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 14, 2018 13:29:27 GMT
Agreed. How do we not nick it to safety with the abomination of a squad that we currently have? As you alluded to last week. We can't play football, can't really play direct and on the break due to a lack of pace. We can't really press high due to our forwards having intermittent work rate. What's left? As I said above, and for precisely the reasons you have listed, the Lambert policy is, like other managers I listed, to sit tight, aim to keep a clean sheet and try and nick the occasional win. It hasn't worked yet, but we have come close to winning a number of matches since PL came. To go on the attack with players who are not athletic, not good passers, don't score goals very, etc. often would be a recipe for disaster. For example as soon as we tried to attack West Ham to get level, they had free reign to attack us and score. The only two choices aren't all out defence or all out attack.
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Mar 14, 2018 14:09:39 GMT
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Post by robstokie on Mar 14, 2018 14:09:39 GMT
The problem is as simple as this - we have no one who can create or finish (Bar the Shaq of course). That is NOT PL's fault - he was bought in half-way through January, and we had the even more pressing issue of bringing in a midfielder who has the legs to play week in week out at a consistent level. To PL's credit, we look much fitter, much more organised and at least have a bit of fight about us - unfortunately the damage has already been done by a chairman who has bought into a self-sustaining model quite blindly, a CEO and head of recruitment who are both about as useful as a dose of the clap, a manager who has lost his way and the dressing room and the dithering from Coatesy to get rid, even though the writing was clearly on the wall since at least the middle of October.
If we go down (which I think will happen now) would I keep Lambert? Probably not - I feel that we need to rebuild the whole structure of the club, get rid of dads army and the toxic influences, and make a fresh start under a young, vibrant, dynamic coach.
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Post by foster on Mar 14, 2018 15:34:26 GMT
The problem is as simple as this - we have no one who can create or finish (Bar the Shaq of course). That is NOT PL's fault - he was bought in half-way through January, and we had the even more pressing issue of bringing in a midfielder who has the legs to play week in week out at a consistent level. To PL's credit, we look much fitter, much more organised and at least have a bit of fight about us - unfortunately the damage has already been done by a chairman who has bought into a self-sustaining model quite blindly, a CEO and head of recruitment who are both about as useful as a dose of the clap, a manager who has lost his way and the dressing room and the dithering from Coatesy to get rid, even though the writing was clearly on the wall since at least the middle of October. If we go down (which I think will happen now) would I keep Lambert? Probably not - I feel that we need to rebuild the whole structure of the club, get rid of dads army and the toxic influences, and make a fresh start under a young, vibrant, dynamic coach. Agree with most of that except I'd probably keep Lambert if we go down. Not his fault we're in this mess and at least we've improved defensively.
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