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Post by kidcrewbob on Feb 23, 2018 20:25:18 GMT
.......shit football, toxic atmosphere, empty seats, purile protests .......be very afraid......
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Feb 23, 2018 20:37:45 GMT
Of what, being mauled by the tigers?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 23, 2018 20:43:51 GMT
Are you watching Tony Scholes brilliant business acumen last summer and the few before have turned out now , well run club my arse .
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Feb 23, 2018 20:59:09 GMT
Why be afraid? The prem is not the be all and end all, the only thing shit about relegation is the job losses.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 23, 2018 21:56:05 GMT
Why be afraid? The prem is not the be all and end all, the only thing shit about relegation is the job losses. "the only thing shit about relegation is the job losses" well is that a fact.
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Post by harrysburrow on Feb 23, 2018 22:26:42 GMT
Picture a cold, mid-week night in February. We're in the Championship and we've got Brentford at home. There's 10,000 empty seats, Paul Lambert is the manager and Erik Pieters is one of our best players.
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Post by StokieNath on Feb 23, 2018 22:29:29 GMT
Picture a cold, mid-week night in February. We're in the Championship and we've got Brentford at home. There's 10,000 empty seats, Paul Lambert is the manager and Erik Pieters is one of our best players. What's all the fuss about?
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 23, 2018 22:43:20 GMT
.......shit football, toxic atmosphere, empty seats, purile protests .......be very afraid...... I've seen worse games in the Prem.......many worse games in fact.
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Post by rawli on Feb 23, 2018 22:49:43 GMT
Picture a cold, mid-week night in February. We're in the Championship and we've got Brentford at home. There's 10,000 empty seats, Paul Lambert is the manager and Erik Pieters is one of our best players. 20 thousand is pretty good for midweek. We must be doing well.
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Post by RF10 on Feb 23, 2018 23:51:38 GMT
Is there really any need for this post? Pathetic support.
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Post by samba :) on Feb 24, 2018 0:18:14 GMT
Picture a cold, mid-week night in February. We're in the Championship and we've got Brentford at home. There's 10,000 empty seats, Paul Lambert is the manager and Erik Pieters is one of our best players. Picture a cold saturday morning in febuary. We're in the premier league and we've got leicester away. There are 79 empty seats, Paul Lambert is the manager and erik pieters is one of our best players
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Post by mattface on Feb 24, 2018 0:26:18 GMT
Picture a cold, mid-week night in February. We're in the Championship and we've got Brentford at home. There's 10,000 empty seats, Paul Lambert is the manager and Erik Pieters is one of our best players. Picture a cold saturday morning in febuary. We're in the premier league and we've got leicester away. There are 79 empty seats, Paul Lambert is the manager and erik pieters is one of our best players πππππππππππππππ
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Feb 24, 2018 7:41:18 GMT
Why be afraid? The prem is not the be all and end all, the only thing shit about relegation is the job losses. "the only thing shit about relegation is the job losses" well is that a fact. I'm going on benji's post about the staff at Villa.....
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Post by Northy on Feb 24, 2018 7:51:40 GMT
.......shit football, toxic atmosphere, empty seats, purile protests .......be very afraid...... so every team in the championship is protesting about their owners, staying away from matches etc. ? hillsborough, forest, bolton etc. all good days out
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Post by Waggy on Feb 24, 2018 8:33:48 GMT
.......shit football, toxic atmosphere, empty seats, purile protests .......be very afraid...... so every team in the championship is protesting about their owners, staying away from matches etc. ? hillsborough, forest, bolton etc. all good days out I have a friend who supports Sheff Wed, he says the cheapest tickets for games are around Β£39 and end up behind a post. Slightly off the subject but by gum it shocked me
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2018 8:35:59 GMT
Is there really any need for this post? Pathetic support. Here's another one who can't distinguish a moan or two on here from support at the games.
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Post by cityhullstan on Feb 24, 2018 9:17:01 GMT
Everyone is entitled to an opinion.
Our attendances at games is shit but our love and passion for the club is strong and will never die. The Allams are destroying the club and taken the heart and soul out of it.
You have no idea what they have done over the last 4 years. They said they were saviours. They weren't. They're businessmen who saw an opportunity to make money on the cheap out of a council asset and land owned by the council but the council said no. The stadium was paid for by the people of Hull and wasn't to be given to them for nothing. The Allams spat their dummies out and have vindictively taken the club apart. The list is endless. The name change soley down to the council being called "Hull CITY council". The Allams hate the word City because the City council said no.
I've been going for over 50 years. Just cancelled our memberships as I can't stand the toxic atmosphere. It's not our club anymore. Breaks my heart. When they go the ground will be full to the raffters again like it use to be even when we were in league 2.
Take the piss if you like about our crowds. That's football tribal rivalry but try and understand how you would feel if this was done to your club.
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Post by Northy on Feb 24, 2018 9:21:02 GMT
so every team in the championship is protesting about their owners, staying away from matches etc. ? hillsborough, forest, bolton etc. all good days out I have a friend who supports Sheff Wed, he says the cheapest tickets for games are around Β£39 and end up behind a post. Slightly off the subject but by gum it shocked me
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Post by kidcrewbob on Feb 24, 2018 9:21:41 GMT
Is there really any need for this post? Pathetic support. You completely miss my point snowflake - it's actually a counter to the "well, it'll be alright in the Championship" mob who seem to have accepted our fate already - it won't be and it is a very different place than we fondly remember from 2007 - so who is the so-called "shit support" really ??
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Post by Gods on Feb 24, 2018 9:29:05 GMT
Is there really any need for this post? Pathetic support. You completely miss my point snowflake - it's actually a counter to the "well, it'll be alright in the Championship" mob who seem to have accepted our fate already - it won't be and it is a very different place than we fondly remember from 2007 - so who is the so-called "shit support" really ?? I think it was obvious that was your point. Anyone who interpreted it otherwise either didn't read your post or chose to misinterpret it. I am definitely NOT looking forward to dropping out of the top flight. It took us 23 years to get back last time and as an 'out of town' Stoke fan it felt like we we barely existed at all, we may as well have folded for all the media attention we got outside of the Potteries.
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Feb 24, 2018 9:45:49 GMT
You completely miss my point snowflake - it's actually a counter to the "well, it'll be alright in the Championship" mob who seem to have accepted our fate already - it won't be and it is a very different place than we fondly remember from 2007 - so who is the so-called "shit support" really ?? I think it was obvious that was your point. Anyone who interpreted it otherwise either didn't read your post or chose to misinterpret it. I am definitely NOT looking forward to dropping out of the top flight. It took us 23 years to get back last time and as an 'out of town' Stoke fan it felt like we we barely existed at all, we may as well have folded for all the media attention we got outside of the Potteries. I may feel different as I'm not an out of townie, but the media coverage in the championship is still fairly decent? Still on sky, still get highlights on a Sat night. We may even get more coverage if we get relegated and actually start winning games? We barely exist within the media now anyway (apart from when we play the top 6???)..... you never know.....in the championship Bojan may become Stoke's Hoolahan......
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 24, 2018 9:51:55 GMT
The Championship is objectively unbridled wank. Anyone who claims otherwise is lying to themselves.
I can't say I blame them because the thought makes me want to blow my own head off, so if they need to cling on to some vague false hope that's fine. But when the reality kicks in, it will kick in hard.
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Post by alster on Feb 24, 2018 9:54:33 GMT
Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Our attendances at games is shit but our love and passion for the club is strong and will never die. The Allams are destroying the club and taken the heart and soul out of it. You have no idea what they have done over the last 4 years. They said they were saviours. They weren't. They're businessmen who saw an opportunity to make money on the cheap out of a council asset and land owned by the council but the council said no. The stadium was paid for by the people of Hull and wasn't to be given to them for nothing. The Allams spat their dummies out and have vindictively taken the club apart. The list is endless. The name change soley down to the council being called "Hull CITY council". The Allams hate the word City because the City council said no. I've been going for over 50 years. Just cancelled our memberships as I can't stand the toxic atmosphere. It's not our club anymore. Breaks my heart. When they go the ground will be full to the raffters again like it use to be even when we were in league 2. Take the piss if you like about our crowds. That's football tribal rivalry but try and understand how you would feel if this was done to your club. Well they got you to the Premier League when my recollection is that for most of my football supporting life you have been a 3rd and 4th tier club so they can't be that bad. As for the name change why are you so bothered there is no such place as Hull any way maybe they just got it a bit wrong they should have renamed you Kingston City.
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Feb 24, 2018 9:57:28 GMT
The Championship is objectively unbridled wank. Anyone who claims otherwise is lying to themselves. I can't say I blame them because the thought makes me want to blow my own head off, so if they need to cling on to some vague false hope that's fine. But when the reality kicks in, it will kick in hard. And the premiership is so much better? Full of cheating, diving prima donnas....top 6 media-loving tosspots jacking off at anything Pep or Jurgen or Antonio or Jose say, ex-Prem tossers like Shearer scared to upset the top 6 with mind-numbing 'hes entitled to go down there' after a gust of wind knocks Firmino over.....
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Post by alster on Feb 24, 2018 10:00:44 GMT
The Championship is objectively unbridled wank. Anyone who claims otherwise is lying to themselves. I can't say I blame them because the thought makes me want to blow my own head off, so if they need to cling on to some vague false hope that's fine. But when the reality kicks in, it will kick in hard. Despite the obvious drop in quality of play and opposition I'd say football is always better to watch when your team has the balls to attack the opposition. Personally I'd rather watch us having a go in the Championship than camping on the edge of our own box in the Prem, obviously I'd much prefer to watch us having a go in the Prem but thats been very rare these last couple of years I haven't enjoyed many of our games simply due to our own pathetic approach to them.
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Post by stokienorthants on Feb 24, 2018 10:06:55 GMT
.......shit football, toxic atmosphere, empty seats, purile protests .......be very afraid......[/quot Itβs your spelling that scares me π
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 24, 2018 10:20:49 GMT
The Championship is objectively unbridled wank. Anyone who claims otherwise is lying to themselves. I can't say I blame them because the thought makes me want to blow my own head off, so if they need to cling on to some vague false hope that's fine. But when the reality kicks in, it will kick in hard. Despite the obvious drop in quality of play and opposition I'd say football is always better to watch when your team has the balls to attack the opposition. Personally I'd rather watch us having a go in the Championship than camping on the edge of our own box in the Prem, obviously I'd much prefer to watch us having a go in the Prem but thats been very rare these last couple of years I haven't enjoyed many of our games simply due to our own pathetic approach to them. The Championship is objectively unbridled wank. Anyone who claims otherwise is lying to themselves. I can't say I blame them because the thought makes me want to blow my own head off, so if they need to cling on to some vague false hope that's fine. But when the reality kicks in, it will kick in hard. And the premiership is so much better? Full of cheating, diving prima donnas....top 6 media-loving tosspots jacking off at anything Pep or Jurgen or Antonio or Jose say, ex-Prem tossers like Shearer scared to upset the top 6 with mind-numbing 'hes entitled to go down there' after a gust of wind knocks Firmino over..... Nothing is going to be perfect until you win it, but I'd take biased pundits and prima donnas in order to see, without debate, the overall best Stoke sides of my life, the best individual plauers, enjoying being in the public consciousness, being globally famous, the amazing coverage of Stoke, being able to watch us with absolute ease every other week if I can't make the away game. Being the best version of ourselves as we can be, pitting ourselves against the best of the best every game, the fact there are no "givens", the full stadia, the boost it's given to the city, the death of the gloryhunter as an acceptable playground state of being. The increased success in both League and FA Cups we've enjoyed, our European adventure, the fact that none of these three things will happen again without Premier League players. The esteem and respect afforded to us, the ground improvements, the list goes on and on. In the Championship we might win more (we might not), but we'd have to sacrifice a lot of the above, and for what really? We'd be better, bit at a worse level. That's a fucking pathetic outlook to have on life, being happy to drop down to win stuff? There's nothing to be proud of in saying that's a good thing. The overall matchday experience is worse in the Championship as well. Small time clubs, kick and rush from EVERYONE, music after goals, empty seats, no coverage, wank atmosphere (and yes it is wank, even if it's wank in the Prem at the moment, the Champ is even worse). Literally the only benefits are more games on your Season Ticket and some different away grounds to choose from.
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Feb 24, 2018 10:40:44 GMT
Despite the obvious drop in quality of play and opposition I'd say football is always better to watch when your team has the balls to attack the opposition. Personally I'd rather watch us having a go in the Championship than camping on the edge of our own box in the Prem, obviously I'd much prefer to watch us having a go in the Prem but thats been very rare these last couple of years I haven't enjoyed many of our games simply due to our own pathetic approach to them. And the premiership is so much better? Full of cheating, diving prima donnas....top 6 media-loving tosspots jacking off at anything Pep or Jurgen or Antonio or Jose say, ex-Prem tossers like Shearer scared to upset the top 6 with mind-numbing 'hes entitled to go down there' after a gust of wind knocks Firmino over..... Nothing is going to be perfect until you win it, but I'd take biased pundits and prima donnas in order to see, without debate, the overall best Stoke sides of my life, the best individual plauers, enjoying being in the public consciousness, being globally famous, the amazing coverage of Stoke, being able to watch us with absolute ease every other week if I can't make the away game. Being the best version of ourselves as we can be, pitting ourselves against the best of the best every game, the fact there are no "givens", the full stadia, the boost it's given to the city, the death of the gloryhunter as an acceptable playground state of being. The increased success in both League and FA Cups we've enjoyed, our European adventure, the fact that none of these three things will happen again without Premier League players. The esteem and respect afforded to us, the ground improvements, the list goes on and on. In the Championship we might win more (we might not), but we'd have to sacrifice a lot of the above, and for what really? We'd be better, bit at a worse level. That's a fucking pathetic outlook to have on life, being happy to drop down to win stuff? There's nothing to be proud of in saying that's a good thing. The overall matchday experience is worse in the Championship as well. Small time clubs, kick and rush from EVERYONE, music after goals, empty seats, no coverage, wank atmosphere (and yes it is wank, even if it's wank in the Prem at the moment, the Champ is even worse). Literally the only benefits are more games on your Season Ticket and some different away grounds to choose from. It would be nice to actually win a few games and maybe get some confidence back in the vain hope we may bounce straight back? I am bored to death of the premiership and all it entails, my love of football starts and ends with Stoke, no matter what league.....i simply despise the Premiership at the moment. I would even take being a yo-yo club at the moment as being a consistent 9/10th/11th is fookin shit, even cup runs will be thing of the past as the top 7 can't all get Champs League so may need to go down the cup routes for any silverware.....
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Post by alster on Feb 24, 2018 10:51:22 GMT
Despite the obvious drop in quality of play and opposition I'd say football is always better to watch when your team has the balls to attack the opposition. Personally I'd rather watch us having a go in the Championship than camping on the edge of our own box in the Prem, obviously I'd much prefer to watch us having a go in the Prem but thats been very rare these last couple of years I haven't enjoyed many of our games simply due to our own pathetic approach to them. And the premiership is so much better? Full of cheating, diving prima donnas....top 6 media-loving tosspots jacking off at anything Pep or Jurgen or Antonio or Jose say, ex-Prem tossers like Shearer scared to upset the top 6 with mind-numbing 'hes entitled to go down there' after a gust of wind knocks Firmino over..... Nothing is going to be perfect until you win it, but I'd take biased pundits and prima donnas in order to see, without debate, the overall best Stoke sides of my life, the best individual plauers, enjoying being in the public consciousness, being globally famous, the amazing coverage of Stoke, being able to watch us with absolute ease every other week if I can't make the away game. Being the best version of ourselves as we can be, pitting ourselves against the best of the best every game, the fact there are no "givens", the full stadia, the boost it's given to the city, the death of the gloryhunter as an acceptable playground state of being. The increased success in both League and FA Cups we've enjoyed, our European adventure, the fact that none of these three things will happen again without Premier League players. The esteem and respect afforded to us, the ground improvements, the list goes on and on. In the Championship we might win more (we might not), but we'd have to sacrifice a lot of the above, and for what really? We'd be better, bit at a worse level. That's a fucking pathetic outlook to have on life, being happy to drop down to win stuff? There's nothing to be proud of in saying that's a good thing. The overall matchday experience is worse in the Championship as well. Small time clubs, kick and rush from EVERYONE, music after goals, empty seats, no coverage, wank atmosphere (and yes it is wank, even if it's wank in the Prem at the moment, the Champ is even worse). Literally the only benefits are more games on your Season Ticket and some different away grounds to choose from. Totally understand the benefits you're on about but from a completely selfish point of view the only thing that really matters is whether I enjoy watching the football or not. I'll miss the streams for away games but non of the other stuff really means anything much to me at all. From a sporting perspective obviously you should always want to pit yourself against the best but from a simplistic view I just want to enjoy going to the ground and enjoying a game of football at any level. Obviously there are no guarantees we might carry our gutless defensive approach into the Championship too. If we do go down I hope we try to blood young players I'll enjoy that and can be a lot more forgiving of their mistakes. I really hope we don't take the Aston Villa approach of retaining and bringing in even more old heads I'd be really happy to see the back of the lot of them. I think its disgraceful we've been delivered to this point but I'm not totally negative about how it could all work out but it could go either way I suppose, a defensive minded team full of old heads in the Championship next season would probably finish me as a ST holder.
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Post by harrysburrow on Feb 24, 2018 12:46:17 GMT
Picture a cold saturday morning in febuary. We're in the premier league and we've got leicester away. There are 79 empty seats, Paul Lambert is the manager and erik pieters is one of our best players πππππππππππππππ Grim! πππππ
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