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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2018 19:20:22 GMT
Honestly, I'm completely bored of the Premier League.
It's not competitive. 70% of teams are utter tripe. No interesting fixtures for us; we play teams like Utd and Arsenal who are not what they once were, or we just roll over at teams like City, Spurs and Chelsea. The games we do win are against shite sides, and are more often than not as turgid as Charlie Adam's reaction to that penalty.
Roll on the Championship.
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Post by Scrotnig on Feb 10, 2018 19:22:30 GMT
Honestly, I'm completely bored of the Premier League. It's not competitive. 70% of teams are utter tripe. No interesting fixtures for us; we play teams like Utd and Arsenal who are not what they once were, or we just roll over at teams like City, Spurs and Chelsea. The games we do win are against shite sides, and are more often than not as turgid as Charlie Adam's reaction to that penalty. Roll on the Championship. See if you feel that way on wet November night at Brentford eh?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2018 19:24:30 GMT
Honestly, I'm completely bored of the Premier League. It's not competitive. 70% of teams are utter tripe. No interesting fixtures for us; we play teams like Utd and Arsenal who are not what they once were, or we just roll over at teams like City, Spurs and Chelsea. The games we do win are against shite sides, and are more often than not as turgid as Charlie Adam's reaction to that penalty. Roll on the Championship. See if you feel that way on wet November night at Brentford eh? As oppose to a riveting 0-0 at home to watford?
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Post by smiler_andy on Feb 10, 2018 19:25:43 GMT
Sunderland and Hull were in Premier League last season and before the games today both were in bottom 3.
We are a soft touch and will be found out very quickly in the Championship.
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Post by robstokie on Feb 10, 2018 19:25:56 GMT
More games on your season ticket More accessible and cheaper away games Less Mike Dean, Michael Oliver and Martin Atkinson This, plus less plastics and the fact we can realistically approach every game as one we can win.
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Post by tony1234 on Feb 10, 2018 20:22:50 GMT
And I'm so angry about the utter arrogance and complacency that has led us here, that after over thirty five years following this club, I'm not pissing about spending the same fortune it costs now to get to watch the same shit squad get mullered by Brentford rather than Man City. "I can't see what all the fuss is about" *absolutely* sums up everything that has gone wrong this season, the board STILL don't get it, or more likely they do get it but don't give a shit. This relegation will be devastating for the city of Stoke on Trent, and many people will lose their jobs over it. It's not just about football. Since the owners of our club have decided that football is 100% about hard nosed business and financial decisions, I am taking the same approach and will not waste another penny of my hard earned cash propping up an arrogant board and a bunch of massively overpaid pansies who can't even be arsed to bother trying. Be crap all you like, be awful and go down fighting, I can handle that, I cannot however handle the arrogance, the complacency and the downright bloody laziness. We've had worse results at Stoke, we've slid down the leagues but at no point can I remember a squad that treated the job, the club and the fans with such arrogant contempt, and I cannot and will not support it a moment longer. There's only one thing hard nosed businessmen listen to, and that's the cash drying up. So that's what I'm doing. Cue a load of people to tell me I'm "not a real fan", well I *am* a real fan and I've stood on the terraces through all manner of crap over the years but for all that but I not a bloody mug and that's what I'd need to be to give this shower another penny. I can get my football "fix" from watching small non-league local teams. Done it before, many times, and there's a damn site more passion and commitment in those games than you'll see from our bunch of lazy money grabbing tossers. Completely agree. The only one small 'tweak' I'd suggest is the finances have also been run poorly. Spending 50m on investments that depreciate to zero within 6 months because the decisions were made by amateurs isn't how any business would run 'if hard nosed. I've looked quite a lot in my job about business performance. There is a common type of business failure whereby a company that has grown quite quickly - often driven by an owner or cliche - becomes complacent and is blind to either external changes or internal dysfunction. People, inside, who raise the risks are shunned and ejected, when in a healthy business, constructive conflict is invaluable. Innovations are dismissed. Arrogance reigns. Which destroys morale and causes everyone to beh ave out of self-protection. I think Lambert can see the pain - his comments tonight we're poignant.
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Post by potterpaul on Feb 11, 2018 4:08:03 GMT
No more pathetic threads regarding MOTD scheduling
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Post by str8outtahampton on Feb 11, 2018 13:23:45 GMT
No more pathetic threads regarding MOTD scheduling Yes indeed. And/or: 1. First of all let's call it what it is. League Division 2 2. Can watch Motd again 3. Alternatively no need to watch Motd again - with ex pros on 6 and 7 figure salaries telling us the bleeding obvious. Of course their hilarious banter would be a big loss 4. Relegation party if and when we drop to League Division 3, a la Brighton - documented in detail elsewhere - the awayday to end all awaydays 5. Drinks at the Bell and Crown, Strand on the Green ahead of Brentford away 6. No more lazy journalists and pundits telling us what a well run club we are, long after it was obvious that wasn't the case 7. Schadenfreude of watching 9 or 10 clubs desperately scrabbling for their PL life jackets this time next year 8. Probably a play off final at Wembley in the next 10 years. Essentially it's a life sentence and you just have to make the most of it. No question it has been a cock up of biblical proportions, but nothing surprising to anyone remotely familiar with the history of this club. And it is 10 years of PL football and a (tepid admittedly) cup final most of us over a certain age never thought possible.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 13:26:00 GMT
None. It’s a dogshit league. This ^
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 13:39:15 GMT
Let's be honest, the championship is great if you're in the hunt for promotion, and fucking shit if you're not.
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Post by stokeykez on Feb 11, 2018 13:39:17 GMT
We better start and find our bollocksbin the championship if we find it hard work in the premiership. It's brutal, the tackles are crunching and all your arm flapping and buffing and puffing will not get you a free kick in this league. It's a faster pace so our fitness will need to improve yet again. The only thing that gives me slight hope is that Lambert has got teams out of that division before.Unfortunatley though the amount of rebuilding we will have to do it will be essential that the first 10 games we are in touching distance of the top. Think it will be West Brom us and newcastke/ Huddersfield who sink
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 11, 2018 13:42:25 GMT
Look at clubs like Bolton and Sunderland, it won't be easy getting up again. The positive might be that we now have some promising youngsters coming trough, and this might be a better place to start the career than in the PL?
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Post by superheroantonius on Feb 11, 2018 13:46:58 GMT
Agree with the above Lambert is here because he knows the championship
The prem is run for the benefit of the big 4 arsenal chelsea man city man utd. PLus liverpool and spurs
Everybody else are potential relegation candidates every year
The championship is a much more even league.
I have no idea how we will do but imo its a fairer, more competitive league than the prem
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Post by BuckRogers on Feb 11, 2018 13:47:50 GMT
Plus we will have plenty of options where to sit
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Post by stokeykez on Feb 11, 2018 13:50:10 GMT
Lets hope sir Peter is happy signing championship players for £11-16 million every time. If he's penny pinching now god help in in the efl when strikers don't ever go for less than this.
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Post by stokeykez on Feb 11, 2018 13:51:35 GMT
6 points we will drop straight away when we go up against the capped one
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Post by forwhatitsworth on Feb 11, 2018 13:51:50 GMT
More Home games for the price of your ST! Better atmosphere when all the Premier League cling-ons leave and some go back to Vale.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 11, 2018 13:55:53 GMT
There are none
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Post by cotswoldstokie on Feb 11, 2018 14:15:28 GMT
No free coach travel in the championship. We’d better start getting used to a circa 20,000 Britannia stadium. Our support is not as strong as we’d like to think 🤔
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Post by cotswoldstokie on Feb 11, 2018 14:29:26 GMT
No more pathetic threads regarding MOTD scheduling Yes indeed. And/or: 1. First of all let's call it what it is. League Division 2 2. Can watch Motd again 3. Alternatively no need to watch Motd again - with ex pros on 6 and 7 figure salaries telling us the bleeding obvious. Of course their hilarious banter would be a big loss 4. Relegation party if and when we drop to League Division 3, a la Brighton - documented in detail elsewhere - the awayday to end all awaydays 5. Drinks at the Bell and Crown, Strand on the Green ahead of Brentford away 6. No more lazy journalists and pundits telling us what a well run club we are, long after it was obvious that wasn't the case 7. Schadenfreude of watching 9 or 10 clubs desperately scrabbling for their PL life jackets this time next year 8. Probably a play off final at Wembley in the next 10 years. Essentially it's a life sentence and you just have to make the most of it. No question it has been a cock up of biblical proportions, but nothing surprising to anyone remotely familiar with the history of this club. And it is 10 years of PL football and a (tepid admittedly) cup final most of us over a certain age never thought possible. Couldn’t have put it better myself It’s a while since I’ve been this down about Stoke but once you accept we’re down you can start the process of moving on. I won’t relish all the extra night matches (being in GLoucestershire. But having been a season ticket holder since 1977 this has been some of best football I’ve seen. I’ll throw in chamberlain, Beagrrie Hudson (both stints), Hoekstra, zico Kelly, Stein, Ricardo and the 2-0 dismantling of Man City so better get used to a not full Brit losing to lower teams in the Cup each and every season, and hopefully we can still be top half in the Championship. My post script is the last time we were relegated from the top flight 84-85 (I saw every match three wins from 42! Matches ) it took until 2008 - a whole generation, it could well happen again - we’ll see who the true fans ( through thin, thinker and thinnest) are after we go down⚽️UTP
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Post by Scrotnig on Feb 11, 2018 14:39:03 GMT
A positive for me - it has shut up the Pulis haters and people like me who thought he did a great job can put our heads above the parapet once more.
Pulis will now rightly be seen as the most successful manager this club has had in decades. He took us to places we never dreamed we'd get to. Europe, cup finals, mid table comfortably every year....we won't be seeing any of that again for many, many years. Thanks for the memories, Tone.
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Post by Scrotnig on Feb 11, 2018 14:44:51 GMT
My post script is the last time we were relegated from the top flight 84-85 (I saw every match three wins from 42! Matches ) it took until 2008 - a whole generation, it could well happen again - Yep the good old holocaust, I was there throughout that but even that wasn't as painful as this year has been. The players then were out of their depth but they still ran themselves ragged trying to turn things round, unlike the current imposters. And yes it will probably take as long again, if not longer. I firmly believe we will go down again (again!) before we come back up. we’ll see who the true fans ( through thin, thinker and thinnest) are after we go down⚽️UTP I'm sorry to say I'm one of those who is jumping ship. I'm not doing the lower leagues / despair / embarrassment thing again. Did my stint between 1985 and 2008, I'm afraid I don't have the stomach for it any more. It's unlikely the club will be successful again in my lifetime, I also hate what football has become which is actually the greater part of it, so it's goodbye from me once this season ends...I dispute the idea that this makes me 'not a proper fan', I'm a proper fan who knows what's coming and can't be arsed with it any more. Let the younger generations fight it.
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Post by Davef on Feb 11, 2018 15:14:28 GMT
Weekly threads asking for non-existent streams for games at Brentford and Barnsley.
That's going to be a laugh.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Feb 11, 2018 15:24:19 GMT
A major positive for me is losing some of the fans that have jumped on the premier league bandwagon. Some of the crap that has been spouted by some is ridiculous. Hopefully we'll get a few proper fans back, who will perhaps be able to afford to attend more regularly. One thing that may be affected will be crowd trouble. The championship has far more incidents than the premier league and championship clubs have a much worse reputation.
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Post by steino1966 on Feb 11, 2018 15:30:55 GMT
Suppose it will be easier to get the fans who want to create an atmosphere together with all the empty seats.
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 11, 2018 15:46:04 GMT
My worry is the finances and the contracts we will have keep up payments on. Unless Scholes has had the nouse to write appropriate clauses into contracts we could be screwed because we r going to make massive losses on players even if someone wants them! I think we will see a half crippled Jon Walters back here next year...that’s the future
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Post by stokeykez on Feb 11, 2018 16:24:08 GMT
My worry is the finances and the contracts we will have keep up payments on. Unless Scholes has had the nouse to write appropriate clauses into contracts we could be screwed because we r going to make massive losses on players even if someone wants them! I think we will see a half crippled Jon Walters back here next year...that’s the future The board deserve everything they get. I have no pity any more. It's been their lack of speculating to accumulate that have got us into this shitstorm. At least we'll find out if they are serious about financing a promotion push
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 11, 2018 16:29:56 GMT
New challenges, Mass clear out of the shit we have at the club at the moment. 3.00pm Saturday kick offs. Believing you can get something from every game you play. Easier parking Less congested walk up the path at the back of the harvester. More games for your season ticket and some decent away days in Sheffield, Leeds, Nottingham and Shrewsbury (if promoted)
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Feb 11, 2018 16:36:24 GMT
Right, I'm resigned to the fact that we're going down. I've read a lot of doom and gloom on this board so for a change, I thought we could list some of the positives of being in the Championship, as some of our fans won't have been alive when we were in the Championship, or purely weren't interested when we were. Here's what I've got : - 46 games, more football to watch. - Away days at some grounds we've not been to in a while. - We have a manager with great experience in the league. - Maybe more opportunities for our younger players - Ngoy, Campbell, Souttar, Sweeney, Verlinden. - Less queuing times on the concourses due to fewer fans. - The return of the "when we get promotion" song - a big favourite of mine. Anyone got anything to add to that?
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Post by thegift on Feb 11, 2018 16:37:00 GMT
Getting off the car park quicker
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