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Post by ElworthPotter on Feb 2, 2018 23:55:18 GMT
Couldnt agree more ref Wolschied. I remember the concourse packed with happy stokies in the half-time interval at Anfield in the League Cup game all singing the Wolschied song. Looking at that front 3 with literally no height at all is also quite surprising. The match Everton was one of my best ever games in 38 plus years following Stoke Arnie was 6'3" He still is I reckon
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Post by crownmeking on Feb 2, 2018 23:58:22 GMT
Rubbish! It was widely reported that he wanted the loan because he wanted more playing time. This he 'couldn't be arsed' line is absolute nonsense. He could have worked hard, knuckled down and got his playing time here yet he took the easy route. Again, rubbish. He was promised playing time here, publicly by the manager and never got it. He needed to be playing, so he took the option that he hoped would give game time. I highly doubt going on loan was an 'easy route' - He probably didn't want to go, but felt playing time was the most important thing for him.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 27, 2018 11:40:31 GMT
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Post by citynickscfc on Mar 27, 2018 11:54:31 GMT
Would be fantastic in the championship. We were idiots to let these 3 go out. Rather have them on the bench or even sulking around.... Thread bare squad full of crap basically, I'd have thrown all three in the mix at various points of the season
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Post by superheroantonius on Mar 27, 2018 14:41:29 GMT
Shawcross has been dire. Yes he is. There is no way on earth that muni is as good as the young shawcross played next to our lord Or even the shawcross that played with huth But fast forwarding to 2018 its a close call. Shawcross has defo lost a yard of pace and is struggling If i had to call it for 2018/ 2019 then probably muni is a better bet???
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Post by wilcopotter on Mar 27, 2018 16:06:19 GMT
I wouldn’t have any of them back. All had their chance and were bang average. Bojan and Muni too lightweight for Championship if we go down. Wolves fa cup game was enough for me.
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Post by greyman on Mar 27, 2018 18:17:28 GMT
Bojan wasn't bang average before his injury. He was outstanding.
Some people's memories are getting shorter by the day.
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 27, 2018 18:40:32 GMT
I think some people suffer from "absence makes the heart grow fonder".
Muni and Bojan are just too fragile to play in the Prem. Muni has only played 11 times this season due to injuries. Bojan has failed at every club he has been to. I don't blame SCFC for trying by bringing these guys in and giving it a go, nothing ventured, nothing gained. It just hasn't worked out though.
Imbula is a different situation; by every account the guy is just not bothered or prepared to try to be a team player. Someone at the club is seriously at fault for not doing the due diligence and checking the guy out thoroughly before he came.
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Post by wilcopotter on Mar 27, 2018 18:42:08 GMT
Bojan wasn't bang average before his injury. He was outstanding. Some people's memories are getting shorter by the day. Granted, prior to injury different player. Against Wolves bang average. Loaned out since to two mediocre teams , in two different leagues and has failed to impress. Sadly I think his better days are behind him. Hope if he does comes back, he comes good👍
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Post by lordb on Mar 27, 2018 18:56:47 GMT
Bojan wasn't bang average before his injury. He was outstanding. Some people's memories are getting shorter by the day. Granted, prior to injury different player. Against Wolves bang average. Loaned out since to two mediocre teams , in two different leagues and has failed to impress. Sadly I think his better days are behind him. Hope if he does comes back, he comes good👍 For the umpteenth time he was superb after his injury,not just before. Winter 2015 with Shaqiri and Arnie he was right on form. That Wolves game he was indeed very poor. I'd build the side around him in the Championship.
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Post by wilcopotter on Mar 27, 2018 19:22:32 GMT
I think some people suffer from "absence makes the heart grow fonder". Muni and Bojan are just too fragile to play in the Prem. Muni has only played 11 times this season due to injuries. Bojan has failed at every club he has been to. I don't blame SCFC for trying by bringing these guys in and giving it a go, nothing ventured, nothing gained. It just hasn't worked out though. Imbula is a different situation; by every account the guy is just not bothered or prepared to try to be a team player. Someone at the club is seriously at fault for not doing the due diligence and checking the guy out thoroughly before he came. Agree with you on Imbula. He was at Porto for a few months. Usually when that happens there is either a personal issue i.e. homesick, or a problem. Given that he came to England instead of going back to France suggests it was not the former. Therefore, that’s where the due diligence should’ve come in to identify if there was a problem imo. Porto didn’t seem to be breaking their necks to keep him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 19:37:07 GMT
From one subs bench to another......
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Post by Scrotnig on Mar 27, 2018 20:33:32 GMT
Muni and Bojan are just too fragile to play in the Prem. Well that won't be a problem for very much longer.
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Post by bhp on Mar 27, 2018 21:38:44 GMT
I wouldn’t have any of them back. All had their chance and were bang average. Bojan and Muni too lightweight for Championship if we go down. Wolves fa cup game was enough for me. How can you judge the Wolves game as the deciding factor? Did you really expect a midfield of Bojan, Imbula and Affelay to work? If you did then if I'll give you another example.. if we played a formation of 4-0-6 would you expect that to work? I doubt it. Bojan was class for us before the injury so to judge him on 45 minutes in a single FA Cup tie is harsh. Imbula is really talented but a mixture of attitude and not adapting to English culture did it for him, a winger Newcastle had a few season ago, Thauvin, didn't do great now he's got double figure goals at Marseille and showing his class, some people just struggle to adapt.
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Post by daveandeddy on Mar 28, 2018 11:58:17 GMT
I wouldn’t have any of them back. All had their chance and were bang average. Bojan and Muni too lightweight for Championship if we go down. Wolves fa cup game was enough for me. How can you judge the Wolves game as the deciding factor? Did you really expect a midfield of Bojan, Imbula and Affelay to work? If you did then if I'll give you another example.. if we played a formation of 4-0-6 would you expect that to work? I doubt it. Bojan was class for us before the injury so to judge him on 45 minutes in a single FA Cup tie is harsh. Imbula is really talented but a mixture of attitude and not adapting to English culture did it for him, a winger Newcastle had a few season ago, Thauvin, didn't do great now he's got double figure goals at Marseille and showing his class, some people just struggle to adapt. Bojan stopped being effective when Bony arrived and starved him of space What Bojan needs is space in the middle to work in and he cannot do that with a forward with no movement or pace that was Bony and for Bony now read Crouch I would like to see Bojan working the middle with either Berahino or Diouf making the runs I also think he could link the midfield up with N'diaye just as he did at times with N'Zonzi .... For Bojan to really shine you have to take a risk and build a team around him
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Post by kustokie on Mar 28, 2018 13:20:42 GMT
I think some people suffer from "absence makes the heart grow fonder". Muni and Bojan are just too fragile to play in the Prem. Muni has only played 11 times this season due to injuries. Bojan has failed at every club he has been to. I don't blame SCFC for trying by bringing these guys in and giving it a go, nothing ventured, nothing gained. It just hasn't worked out though. Imbula is a different situation; by every account the guy is just not bothered or prepared to try to be a team player. Someone at the club is seriously at fault for not doing the due diligence and checking the guy out thoroughly before he came. I had never heard of the guy before he signed for Stoke. However 5 minutes on Google told me enough. He was a bust everywhere he had been and Porto were looking to dump him. He played in a friendly against Stoke, which is about the only due diligence they must have done. He scored one good goal, played well at Chelsea and then faded into the sunset. And to make things worse the team that signed him still has their jobs. Pathetic.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2018 13:54:22 GMT
I think some people suffer from "absence makes the heart grow fonder". Muni and Bojan are just too fragile to play in the Prem. Muni has only played 11 times this season due to injuries. Bojan has failed at every club he has been to. I don't blame SCFC for trying by bringing these guys in and giving it a go, nothing ventured, nothing gained. It just hasn't worked out though. Imbula is a different situation; by every account the guy is just not bothered or prepared to try to be a team player. Someone at the club is seriously at fault for not doing the due diligence and checking the guy out thoroughly before he came. I hate that shite. Some of the greatest players the Prem (and the world) have seen are sleight build and not renowned for strength. Strength is a good aspect. But players with technical quality don't need it. And lets not pretend that Bojan doesn't have that quality. Muni was exceptional as a centre half in mid 2015/16 aswell, because he read the game well. Strength didn't enter into it.
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Post by hoofmagic on Mar 28, 2018 17:17:21 GMT
Nods
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Post by Bagwash on Mar 28, 2018 21:59:42 GMT
I thought Lambert would have recalled Muni and especially Bojan from there loan spells as at the very least they would have given him another option,even if they were both on the subs bench. The only problem I could see with Muniesa was that he seemed to suffer from strains regularly and never had a decent run in the first team due to this. As for Bojan,he is one of the most skilful players I have seen play for us and whilst I can understand the argument that he seems too lightweight for the Prem,(although I don't agree with it), he would still have been a great option for selection from the off or from the bench.At the moment we have next to zero creativity in the team and Bojan could have supplied this but,sadly we will never know.
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Post by hanibal7 on Mar 29, 2018 0:41:30 GMT
Shawcross has been dire. Yes he is. There is no way on earth that muni is as good as the young shawcross played next to our lord Or even the shawcross that played with huth But fast forwarding to 2018 its a close call. Shawcross has defo lost a yard of pace and is struggling If i had to call it for 2018/ 2019 then probably muni is a better bet??? Muni isn't even playing.
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Apr 1, 2018 10:23:32 GMT
Where is Bojan these days anyway? I notice that he doesn’t even make the bench at Alavés is he still there?
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Post by Godo on Apr 1, 2018 10:40:35 GMT
We REALLY need to move on from Bojan, Muniesa, Imbula because they are either nowhere near the players they were or could have been if they weren't fragile or in the case of Imbula they are just wasters. Add in the extra 12 months contracts for the has beens, the expensive 3 or 4 year contracts for the hopeless Wimmer and Berahino and the people thinking we are going to do anything other than embarrass ourselves in the Championship with this squad are seriously deluded!!
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