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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 17, 2018 8:25:01 GMT
Unless he fancies Zouma in there, who else is there to play in midfield? Our options in there are dire. Adam who has played far better than Fletcher. But yeah it's number one priority this window Allen and Adam in a two though? Not for me. It would make the midfield worse.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 17, 2018 9:04:16 GMT
Is Cameron likely to be fit for weekend. Him and Allen in midfield with Adam or Ireland in front and diouf up front should get us the 3 points we need.
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 17, 2018 9:08:03 GMT
If we lose to Huddersfield then start the criticism. That sounds like a plan. New manager, give him four days to get a shite team performing, and if we don't win "start the criticism". Constructive criticism I am meaning, not foul expletives that are so common on this MB. If, as the OP suggests, Lambert persists with failed policies then I see no harm in being critical and suggesting alternative tactics etc. The sort of posts that annoy me and reflect more on the poster than the target they are aimed at, are those by morons throwing their toys out of the pram and venting their childish anger using foul language.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 17, 2018 9:12:13 GMT
Is Cameron likely to be fit for weekend. Him and Allen in midfield with Adam or Ireland in front and diouf up front should get us the 3 points we need. None of them are fit!
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 17, 2018 9:13:03 GMT
We realy do have to make a loss on Wimmer, no point in giving this bloke a wage,when it would be better paying it to someone else.
The same goes for Fletcher.
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Post by pez75 on Jan 17, 2018 9:21:15 GMT
Adam Allen Afellay Cameron (if fit) Adam is a liability and blows out of his arse after 20 minutes. Allen is already in there next to him so isn’t an ‘other’ option. Afellay isn’t a defensive midfielder although he’s good to bring on to close a game out if we ever get in front in one again. Cameron is the man for the job, he is exactly the right player for the position, reads the game well, big powerful and athletic, million times better than Fletcher. I am sorry but that is simply not true. You clearly were not at Coventry (his last game) as anybody that was would never type that. I know he is less of a liability in the middle that in defence but anyone who gives the ball away as much as Cameron should be used very sparingly.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Jan 17, 2018 9:31:16 GMT
Why no mention of Stephen Ireland? He's an attacking midfielder, different position, different competition. The original question was simply midfield options, not whether players were defensive or attacking midfielders. Do try and keep up.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 17, 2018 10:18:18 GMT
He's an attacking midfielder, different position, different competition. The original question was simply midfield options, not whether players were defensive or attacking midfielders. Do try and keep up. And that to me is the 2 in a 442/4231 or the 3 in 433. Not where Steven Ireland plays.
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Post by RF10 on Jan 17, 2018 10:28:27 GMT
Fletcher gets a lot of unfair critism. He's no worse than our other options available. However we desperatley need to sign another CM.
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Post by ed5993 on Jan 17, 2018 10:33:51 GMT
We need a box to box midfielder - someone with some energy and fight to rival Allen's. He basically does the running for the whole midfield.
Fletcher Adam Affelay Ireland Cameron - none of them are quick all over 30... if you play any 2 out of the above I think you're already on the back foot because you've limited your options already to get up and down the pitch. Playing any one of them with Allen and another new player who was more mobile would work wonders I think.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 17, 2018 10:34:00 GMT
Is Cameron likely to be fit for weekend. Him and Allen in midfield with Adam or Ireland in front and diouf up front should get us the 3 points we need. None of them are fit! So they are all unavailable for Saturday then? Shit, now we are in trouble.
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Post by parsonage1955 on Jan 17, 2018 13:10:32 GMT
Could Ramadan (busy, pretty physical, tackles, mobile) play in the middle alongside Joe Allen. I'm not convinced he's a winger.
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Post by ladyinred on Jan 17, 2018 13:17:04 GMT
Didn't Choupo play there for 5 minutes at Stamford Bridge?
Not saying he's the answer, as we all know his concentration isn't good enough.
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Jan 17, 2018 15:03:31 GMT
Adam is a liability and blows out of his arse after 20 minutes. Allen is already in there next to him so isn’t an ‘other’ option. Afellay isn’t a defensive midfielder although he’s good to bring on to close a game out if we ever get in front in one again. Cameron is the man for the job, he is exactly the right player for the position, reads the game well, big powerful and athletic, million times better than Fletcher. I am sorry but that is simply not true. You clearly were not at Coventry (his last game) as anybody that was would never type that. I know he is less of a liability in the middle that in defence but anyone who gives the ball away as much as Cameron should be used very sparingly. Out of the options given above or Fletcher then anyone with even half a brain would know Cameron is the option. Also he was at centre back against Coventry not in midfield so it’s not completely relevant. I understand and fully expect us all to want an upgrade to be purchased but out of the squad we have he is the only decent defensive midfielder we possess. It’s as simple as that.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 17, 2018 15:11:32 GMT
Fletcher looked fine against Man United to me. If he gets back to his early season form and not doesn't take 4 hours on the ball, he's not an issue, although we could obviously do with another capable, mobile option.
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Post by Veritas on Jan 17, 2018 15:18:56 GMT
Fletcher looked fine against Man United to me. If he gets back to his early season form and not doesn't take 4 hours on the ball, he's not an issue, although we could obviously do with another capable, mobile option. I agree and if Cameron is fit I would play the two of them as the shield with an interchangeable three of Shakiri, Ireland and Allen behind the front man.
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 17, 2018 15:35:47 GMT
There is too little time left to start experimenting. We need to play the players in the positions they used to and get them to play better together. It's called teamwork and the best team isn't necessarily the best 11 players. We clearly need to strengthen but we don't want too much disruption nor do we need more squad players, just quality players that go straight into the first XI.
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