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Post by skippy on Jan 16, 2018 12:30:34 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 16, 2018 12:37:39 GMT
None of that surprises me in the slightest, yet we had posters on here praising his man management skills.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 12:42:37 GMT
None of that surprises me in the slightest, yet we had posters on here praising his man management skills. Probably because there’s plenty of players out there who have praised it as well. It’s not rocket science.....
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 16, 2018 12:43:40 GMT
YAWN
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 16, 2018 12:44:57 GMT
Did it not occur to Gabbidon to maybe take the bull by the horns and maybe ask why he wasn't playing himself?
"When I was in the team, I thought he was a good manager. Then when I wasn't, I didn't."
You don't say Dan.
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Post by nott1 on Jan 16, 2018 12:48:17 GMT
He dropped him 'cos he was always in the sick bay.....well done MH and this has been dragged up from nearly 10 years ago. A rubbish player gets dropped shocker!
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Post by scfc75 on Jan 16, 2018 12:51:52 GMT
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jan 16, 2018 12:54:12 GMT
i'm sure most managers have players who will speak for and against them . Hughes players did the talking for him on the pitch , that is why he got to stay for so long and why he has now been fucked off thats what counts in the end.
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Post by Fredrikstad Norway on Jan 16, 2018 12:55:22 GMT
Brede Hangeland (Former Fulham and CP) have slaughtered Hughes manager skills in Norwegian PL-studio almost since he joined Stoke.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 16, 2018 12:57:04 GMT
The way he allegedly treated Clint Hill during Wilko's testimonial, really did smack of him being a petty man, sadly.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 12:57:46 GMT
The way he allegedly treated Clint Hill during Wilko's testimonial, really did smack of him being a petty man, sadly. What happened there Sheikh?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 12:58:20 GMT
Brede Hangeland (Former Fulham and CP) have slaughtered Hughes manager skills in Norwegian PL-studio almost since he joined Stoke. Even though they finished 8th in his season there? Whatever he did seemed to work......
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Post by rrrrleek on Jan 16, 2018 13:06:00 GMT
Hughes fucked us over we going down now
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 16, 2018 13:08:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 13:12:55 GMT
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jan 16, 2018 13:15:27 GMT
Shhh. It doesn't fit the agenda!
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jan 16, 2018 13:20:07 GMT
Maybe Hill unfairly (in Hughes' mind) criticised Hughes, and Hughes didn't like it? People have disagreements, it's no big deal. It seems a bit harsh if Hill travelled especially to play, but it could all be down to miscommunication - something else that happens regularly. Did he play on Wilko's team? If not, why not? And I don't have anything against Clint Hill - I thought he was great when he was here.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 16, 2018 13:33:10 GMT
Maybe Hill unfairly (in Hughes' mind) criticised Hughes, and Hughes didn't like it? People have disagreements, it's no big deal. It seems a bit harsh if Hill travelled especially to play, but it could all be down to miscommunication - something else that happens regularly. Did he play on Wilko's team? If not, why not? And I don't have anything against Clint Hill - I thought he was great when he was here. I think the fact that it was a charity evening for a Stoke legend makes it petty in the extreme. I think like the vast majority of football managers he could be a bit of a tosspot.
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Post by skippy on Jan 16, 2018 13:34:15 GMT
Shhh. It doesn't fit the agenda! This article is effectively a report on an interview with Jon Stead from 2004 shortly after Hughes had joined Blackburn. He's surely going to be saying nice things about his newly arrived manager; this article doesn't really prove much in my opinion. It's a typical to be expected answer from a player to the question "What do you think of the new manager?"
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jan 16, 2018 13:37:16 GMT
Maybe Hill unfairly (in Hughes' mind) criticised Hughes, and Hughes didn't like it? People have disagreements, it's no big deal. It seems a bit harsh if Hill travelled especially to play, but it could all be down to miscommunication - something else that happens regularly. Did he play on Wilko's team? If not, why not? And I don't have anything against Clint Hill - I thought he was great when he was here. I think the fact that it was a charity evening for a Stoke legend makes it petty in the extreme. I think like the vast majority of football managers he could be a bit of a tosspot. I agree on the charity point, but none of us know both sides of the story, and even if we did, we still wouldn't know what's actually happened between them. QPR must have been a ridiculously stressful time for Hill and Hughes.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 16, 2018 13:44:08 GMT
Shhh. It doesn't fit the agenda! This article is effectively a report on an interview with Jon Stead from 2004 shortly after Hughes had joined Blackburn. He's surely going to be saying nice things about his newly arrived manager; this article doesn't really prove much in my opinion. It's a typical to be expected answer from a player to the question "What do you think of the new manager?" The Gabbidon article is hardly a smoking gun is it? Disgruntled player with axe to grind grinds axe.
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Post by scfc75 on Jan 16, 2018 13:55:20 GMT
Shhh. It doesn't fit the agenda! This article is effectively a report on an interview with Jon Stead from 2004 shortly after Hughes had joined Blackburn. He's surely going to be saying nice things about his newly arrived manager; this article doesn't really prove much in my opinion. It's a typical to be expected answer from a player to the question "What do you think of the new manager?" Is it any different to "what do you think of the manager who dropped you?" though? The reason I posted the Stead thing was simply to prove that you don't have to look far to find articles both positive and negative about anybody. There isn't a manager on the planet who hasn't at some point had a run in with a player. Fergie thrived on it.
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Post by skippy on Jan 16, 2018 13:56:12 GMT
This article is effectively a report on an interview with Jon Stead from 2004 shortly after Hughes had joined Blackburn. He's surely going to be saying nice things about his newly arrived manager; this article doesn't really prove much in my opinion. It's a typical to be expected answer from a player to the question "What do you think of the new manager?" The Gabbidon article is hardly a smoking gun is it? Disgruntled player with axe to grind grinds axe. I wouldn't disagree with that either, I just shared the Gabbidon article as it had popped up on the Newsnow and I thought it may be of interest to people. My thoughts were (as another poster mentioned) why wasn't Gabbidon knocking on Hughes door and asking questions? Edit: sorry just rechecked- it was you who mentioned it! Sorry mate
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Post by cerebralstokie on Jan 16, 2018 14:19:02 GMT
I have often wondered why Robert Huth was sold to Leicester. Their fantastic run started the day Huth played for them. To break up the Huth/Shawcross partnership seemed a bit odd.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 16, 2018 14:25:16 GMT
I have often wondered why Robert Huth was sold to Leicester. Their fantastic run started the day Huth played for them. To break up the Huth/Shawcross partnership seemed a bit odd. Breaking up the partnership was odd, replacing Huth with Wolfy was pure insanity.
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Post by wuzza on Jan 16, 2018 14:25:24 GMT
It’s always the same though isn’t it. If I had 10 bob for every time someone had come on here slating TPs Man management I would be looking for a seat on the board of directors. There are always a raft of stories depending on the individual players concerned. If you take the old cliche ‘you can’t please all the people all the time’ you wouldn’t be far wrong with regard Football management. Truth probably is that Hughes was no worse or no better than most but at least he had nice guy Eddie to smooth the wrinkles.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 16, 2018 14:28:14 GMT
I have often wondered why Robert Huth was sold to Leicester. Their fantastic run started the day Huth played for them. To break up the Huth/Shawcross partnership seemed a bit odd. He didn't just unceremoniously break it up though did he? Huth got injured and was out for ages. He'd been struggling with the change in style before his injury and in his limited minutes on his return didn't really look at it either. In his absence we finished ninth three times. Some players just need a change of scenery.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 16, 2018 14:30:59 GMT
I have often wondered why Robert Huth was sold to Leicester. Their fantastic run started the day Huth played for them. To break up the Huth/Shawcross partnership seemed a bit odd. He didn't just unceremoniously break it up though did he? Huth got injured and was out for ages. He'd been struggling with the change in style before his injury and in his limited minutes on his return didn't really look at it either. In his absence we finished ninth three times. Some players just need a change of scenery. Huth went on to win the PL with Leicester, Wolfy went on to well eerrrmmmmm the dole
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jan 16, 2018 14:31:43 GMT
I have often wondered why Robert Huth was sold to Leicester. Their fantastic run started the day Huth played for them. To break up the Huth/Shawcross partnership seemed a bit odd. Huth had a few injuries and Hughes couldn't guarantee him regular starts. Wollscheid was also in mostly excellent form. I think one of Hughes failings has been letting players go too easily, when he couldn't guarantee them first-team football. He needed to be more selfish for Stoke City.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 14:32:16 GMT
Cant be as bad as pulis
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