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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 15, 2018 16:16:56 GMT
Right, let me say straight away that I think Paul Lambert is an absolutely dreadful appointment. We all know the reasons why- he's got a poor track record (one good spell at Norwich aside), fans of his previous clubs have few good words about him and he's the exact opposite to what we need right now. After everything we've been through this season we needed someone who ALL the fans could buy into and get behind- someone who we'd stay with even if we do go down (which I think is sadly inevitable now). What we've got though is someone who will potentially turn fans away, make them lose their belief in the club and will probably accelerate the return to sub-15,000 gates far quicker than we'd ever thought possible.
We're all pissed off, we're angry and I'm even reading stuff about protests and people demanding the removal of the board.
Let's just fucking calm down a little bit, eh?
Remember when Pulis was appointed, we had people basically saying they wouldn't set foot in the stadium based on what a few bitter Bristol City fans were saying on here. That one didn't turn out too badly did it?
The Hughes Out truck was doing laps of the car park before Sparky had even sat down in the dugout for the first time. I know it all went tits up in the end, but three 9th place finishes showed that actually, the board had made the correct decision at the time.
I've had my say, ranted on Twitter, turned the air blue when anybody's spoken to me about this appointment, but right now, it's done, Lambert is here and we have SIXTEEN GAMES to save ourselves. Nobody KNOWS for sure how this is going to turn out. It might be a disaster, it might turn out exactly like I've said in the first paragraph, but until that DOES happen, we have to keep turning up, keep shouting the team on and simply pray that we can scrape enough points together between now and May. West Ham fans were probably as pissed off as we are now when Moyes was appointed, and I suspect that Crystal Palace fans were queueing up to throw themselves off the stadium roof when Hodgson got the job.
You never know what the future will bring, so let's get the anger and the disappointment out of our system, indulge in a Twitter tantrum if you must, but let's not be silly. We have one thing to concentrate on between now and May: doing everything we can to stay up.
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Post by Block 22 on Jan 15, 2018 16:19:07 GMT
Well said T dog.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 15, 2018 16:20:21 GMT
Well said, Trousers.
I feel pretty empty and desolate about the whole farce.
But our worst fears may yet be misplaced. I doubt it, but it's possible.
Until then, he deserves our support.
Let's see how he's backed in the next fortnight for starters.
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Post by madmickthe3rd on Jan 15, 2018 16:20:54 GMT
Hear hear that man!
Today is for moaning and groaning, tomorrow we all pull together and do our bit to get us out of trouble.
Shit or bust for me, or throw the towel in now if your not. Who's with me?
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Post by NG4POTTERS on Jan 15, 2018 16:27:01 GMT
Agreed. A poor desperate appointment and for far too long a contract however it's done and it's dusted. Best to leave the hate and bad feelings behind and just hope he can in my eyes now perform something miraculous in keeping us up. He is stoke city manager now. The club all of us love. It's just the way it is. Good luck Paul.
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Post by onepara on Jan 15, 2018 16:27:12 GMT
I think that he'll be judged by who/what type of players he brings in. He may get players from the Championship that will play for the shirt & who are out to prove themselves & will put a shift in, rather than the show ponies that we've seen. We need players who will give 110% to stave off relegation. Let's wait & see.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jan 15, 2018 16:29:23 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised to see fellow Scots Fletcher and Adam, both featuring.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Jan 15, 2018 16:35:02 GMT
Hear hear that man! Today is for moaning and groaning, tomorrow we all pull together and do our bit to get us out of trouble. Shit or bust for me, or throw the towel in now if your not. Who's with me? Tomorrow starts tonight at OT. Com'on Stoke !
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jan 15, 2018 16:40:34 GMT
He was far from my first choice, infact he was so far down the list that I'd completely forgot he existed, but he's here now so he'll get my support. What he did at other clubs doesn't matter to me, he did well at some clubs & couldn't have been expected to do much better at some basket case clubs, but that shall all be ignored & he'll get a clean slate from me. (Look at Moyes, failed at a basket case club like Sunderland but he's turned West Ham around. Or look at Hughes at QPR, but he turned us around.)
If he can sort our defence out & make us hard to beat, great. If he can get us playing with a bit of energy, great. If he can do that whilst letting a few of the young lads get some game time, great. Who knows, he might even use all three of his substitutions in matches!
He could turn out to be a great appointment & we'll look back on this day in ten years time & laugh at how hysterical everyone was... Or it might all turn to shit, who knows, but lets give the bloke a bloody chance, eh?!
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Jan 15, 2018 16:59:56 GMT
Right, let me say straight away that I think Paul Lambert is an absolutely dreadful appointment. We all know the reasons why- he's got a poor track record (one good spell at Norwich aside), fans of his previous clubs have few good words about him and he's the exact opposite to what we need right now. After everything we've been through this season we needed someone who ALL the fans could buy into and get behind- someone who we'd stay with even if we do go down (which I think is sadly inevitable now). What we've got though is someone who will potentially turn fans away, make them lose their belief in the club and will probably accelerate the return to sub-15,000 gates far quicker than we'd ever thought possible. We're all pissed off, we're angry and I'm even reading stuff about protests and people demanding the removal of the board. Let's just fucking calm down a little bit, eh? Remember when Pulis was appointed, we had people basically saying they wouldn't set foot in the stadium based on what a few bitter Bristol City fans were saying on here. That one didn't turn out too badly did it? The Hughes Out truck was doing laps of the car park before Sparky had even sat down in the dugout for the first time. I know it all went tits up in the end, but three 9th place finishes showed that actually, the board had made the correct decision at the time. I've had my say, ranted on Twitter, turned the air blue when anybody's spoken to me about this appointment, but right now, it's done, Lambert is here and we have SIXTEEN GAMES to save ourselves. Nobody KNOWS for sure how this is going to turn out. It might be a disaster, it might turn out exactly like I've said in the first paragraph, but until that DOES happen, we have to keep turning up, keep shouting the team on and simply pray that we can scrape enough points together between now and May. West Ham fans were probably as pissed off as we are now when Moyes was appointed, and I suspect that Crystal Palace fans were queueing up to throw themselves off the stadium roof when Hodgson got the job. You never know what the future will bring, so let's get the anger and the disappointment out of our system, indulge in a Twitter tantrum if you must, but let's not be silly. We have one thing to concentrate on between now and May: doing everything we can to stay up. TD you've encapsulated everything I've been banging on about since the moment his appointment was announced (far more eloquently of course!) Who knows, and lets face it nobody does, this might actually turn out to be a master stroke by our beleaguered BoD's.
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Post by serpico on Jan 15, 2018 17:11:36 GMT
if we don't beat Huddesfield at home then we're basically fucked whoever is in charge anyway, might as well have a manager in who has a promotion on his CV.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 17:12:02 GMT
I'm keeping my powder dry on this one. We have 16 Cup Finals to save our top flight status. Lambert is our manager and we must back him to the hilt. Questions can be asked at the end of the season. The board having made the decision need to make substantial funds available to facilitate our survival.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 15, 2018 17:12:30 GMT
Meh.
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Post by mickmacc on Jan 15, 2018 17:12:56 GMT
The bloke with the Hughes Out truck was the new Doris Stokes
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Post by liamo on Jan 15, 2018 17:15:04 GMT
I've seen more positive talk about him from fans of his ex clubs tbh, Norwich fans say he was amazing, Villa fans accept that it was Lerner tightening the purse strings after O'neill having a massive budget that fucked them up
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 15, 2018 17:32:35 GMT
Right, let me say straight away that I think Paul Lambert is an absolutely dreadful appointment. We all know the reasons why- he's got a poor track record (one good spell at Norwich aside), fans of his previous clubs have few good words about him and he's the exact opposite to what we need right now. After everything we've been through this season we needed someone who ALL the fans could buy into and get behind- someone who we'd stay with even if we do go down (which I think is sadly inevitable now). What we've got though is someone who will potentially turn fans away, make them lose their belief in the club and will probably accelerate the return to sub-15,000 gates far quicker than we'd ever thought possible. We're all pissed off, we're angry and I'm even reading stuff about protests and people demanding the removal of the board. Let's just fucking calm down a little bit, eh? Remember when Pulis was appointed, we had people basically saying they wouldn't set foot in the stadium based on what a few bitter Bristol City fans were saying on here. That one didn't turn out too badly did it? The Hughes Out truck was doing laps of the car park before Sparky had even sat down in the dugout for the first time. I know it all went tits up in the end, but three 9th place finishes showed that actually, the board had made the correct decision at the time. I've had my say, ranted on Twitter, turned the air blue when anybody's spoken to me about this appointment, but right now, it's done, Lambert is here and we have SIXTEEN GAMES to save ourselves. Nobody KNOWS for sure how this is going to turn out. It might be a disaster, it might turn out exactly like I've said in the first paragraph, but until that DOES happen, we have to keep turning up, keep shouting the team on and simply pray that we can scrape enough points together between now and May. West Ham fans were probably as pissed off as we are now when Moyes was appointed, and I suspect that Crystal Palace fans were queueing up to throw themselves off the stadium roof when Hodgson got the job. You never know what the future will bring, so let's get the anger and the disappointment out of our system, indulge in a Twitter tantrum if you must, but let's not be silly. We have one thing to concentrate on between now and May: doing everything we can to stay up. Well said peter
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 15, 2018 17:33:43 GMT
I'm keeping my powder dry on this one. We have 16 Cup Finals to save our top flight status. Lambert is our manager and we must back him to the hilt. Questions can be asked at the end of the season. The board having made the decision need to make substantial funds available to facilitate our survival. He won’t have any say on any players coming in or out
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Post by march4 on Jan 15, 2018 17:34:20 GMT
We simply have to stay up.
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Post by potter25 on Jan 15, 2018 17:35:39 GMT
Most sensible thing I’ve read on here in years
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 17:36:36 GMT
Right, let me say straight away that I think Paul Lambert is an absolutely dreadful appointment. We all know the reasons why- he's got a poor track record (one good spell at Norwich aside), fans of his previous clubs have few good words about him and he's the exact opposite to what we need right now. After everything we've been through this season we needed someone who ALL the fans could buy into and get behind- someone who we'd stay with even if we do go down (which I think is sadly inevitable now). What we've got though is someone who will potentially turn fans away, make them lose their belief in the club and will probably accelerate the return to sub-15,000 gates far quicker than we'd ever thought possible. We're all pissed off, we're angry and I'm even reading stuff about protests and people demanding the removal of the board. Let's just fucking calm down a little bit, eh? Remember when Pulis was appointed, we had people basically saying they wouldn't set foot in the stadium based on what a few bitter Bristol City fans were saying on here. That one didn't turn out too badly did it? The Hughes Out truck was doing laps of the car park before Sparky had even sat down in the dugout for the first time. I know it all went tits up in the end, but three 9th place finishes showed that actually, the board had made the correct decision at the time. I've had my say, ranted on Twitter, turned the air blue when anybody's spoken to me about this appointment, but right now, it's done, Lambert is here and we have SIXTEEN GAMES to save ourselves. Nobody KNOWS for sure how this is going to turn out. It might be a disaster, it might turn out exactly like I've said in the first paragraph, but until that DOES happen, we have to keep turning up, keep shouting the team on and simply pray that we can scrape enough points together between now and May. West Ham fans were probably as pissed off as we are now when Moyes was appointed, and I suspect that Crystal Palace fans were queueing up to throw themselves off the stadium roof when Hodgson got the job. You never know what the future will bring, so let's get the anger and the disappointment out of our system, indulge in a Twitter tantrum if you must, but let's not be silly. We have one thing to concentrate on between now and May: doing everything we can to stay up. Well said T. As pissed off as I am we have to get behind him
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Post by Gods on Jan 15, 2018 17:37:17 GMT
We simply have to stay up. Yes we do. Given we were where we were manager wise yesterday I think he was our best option.
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Jan 15, 2018 17:37:29 GMT
In a way it’s good to actually feel something about it again, even if that something is blind uncontrollably furious rage.
Been completely disengaged other than actually turning up to the games for 18 months.
Fuck it. Have to get behind the useless cunt now I suppose. Nothing else for it.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 15, 2018 17:37:29 GMT
A win on Saturday changes everything.
Maybe we could try to do something tonight that other teams have done recently, make a game of it at old trafford? Maybe take a point?
Its on the pitch we need something, a performance that will turn the season around
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Jan 15, 2018 17:43:14 GMT
A win on Saturday changes everything. Maybe we could try to do something tonight that other teams have done recently, make a game of it at old trafford? Maybe take a point? Its on the pitch we need something, a performance that will turn the season around That’s the problem though, there’s nothing coming out of the dressing room suggesting any of these workshy cunts are calling the even more workshy cunts a cunt, grabbing the cunts by the throat and telling them to sort their fucking shit out. Two men had that job, and they haven’t been replaced in the dressing room. Until someone within the dressing room stands up and says it like it is nothing is likely to change. Glen whelan would have punched wimmer in the fucking ballbag by now. Fucking useless twat.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jan 15, 2018 17:45:12 GMT
Assuming he keeps us up.....can anyone else see anything else but more of the same next year? His Prem track record is poor and he seemingly doesn't give a fuck about the cups. It just doesn't make sense - for 6 months or for two and half fucking years.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jan 15, 2018 17:50:19 GMT
Right, let me say straight away that I think Paul Lambert is an absolutely dreadful appointment. We all know the reasons why- he's got a poor track record (one good spell at Norwich aside), fans of his previous clubs have few good words about him and he's the exact opposite to what we need right now. After everything we've been through this season we needed someone who ALL the fans could buy into and get behind- someone who we'd stay with even if we do go down (which I think is sadly inevitable now). What we've got though is someone who will potentially turn fans away, make them lose their belief in the club and will probably accelerate the return to sub-15,000 gates far quicker than we'd ever thought possible. We're all pissed off, we're angry and I'm even reading stuff about protests and people demanding the removal of the board. Let's just fucking calm down a little bit, eh? Remember when Pulis was appointed, we had people basically saying they wouldn't set foot in the stadium based on what a few bitter Bristol City fans were saying on here. That one didn't turn out too badly did it? The Hughes Out truck was doing laps of the car park before Sparky had even sat down in the dugout for the first time. I know it all went tits up in the end, but three 9th place finishes showed that actually, the board had made the correct decision at the time. I've had my say, ranted on Twitter, turned the air blue when anybody's spoken to me about this appointment, but right now, it's done, Lambert is here and we have SIXTEEN GAMES to save ourselves. Nobody KNOWS for sure how this is going to turn out. It might be a disaster, it might turn out exactly like I've said in the first paragraph, but until that DOES happen, we have to keep turning up, keep shouting the team on and simply pray that we can scrape enough points together between now and May. West Ham fans were probably as pissed off as we are now when Moyes was appointed, and I suspect that Crystal Palace fans were queueing up to throw themselves off the stadium roof when Hodgson got the job. You never know what the future will bring, so let's get the anger and the disappointment out of our system, indulge in a Twitter tantrum if you must, but let's not be silly. We have one thing to concentrate on between now and May: doing everything we can to stay up. Fuck this shit. When's the transfer dong getting slapped on the table? That's what's important now.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 17:50:46 GMT
Well said Trousers.
We need to unite behind him now. It's the club that matters and only the club. Not our personal opinions of the manager.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 15, 2018 17:57:12 GMT
A win on Saturday changes everything. Maybe we could try to do something tonight that other teams have done recently, make a game of it at old trafford? Maybe take a point? Its on the pitch we need something, a performance that will turn the season around That’s the problem though, there’s nothing coming out of the dressing room suggesting any of these workshy cunts are calling the even more workshy cunts a cunt, grabbing the cunts by the throat and telling them to sort their fucking shit out. Two men had that job, and they haven’t been replaced in the dressing room. Until someone within the dressing room stands up and says it like it is nothing is likely to change. Glen whelan would have punched wimmer in the fucking ballbag by now. Fucking useless twat. Yep, I've been hoping we will sign someone like that to be honest
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Post by arnie3010 on Jan 15, 2018 18:03:42 GMT
For god's sake let's wait. He had a very good spell at Norwich, was doing his best under a more penny pinching owner than Coates at Villa and doing solid at Wolverhampton. He isn't in charge for at least one game and gets hated for nothing
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Post by bigcashprizes on Jan 15, 2018 18:23:06 GMT
We have to get behind him, I agree.
My main concern now (relegation or not), is the truly uninspiring nature of the appointment.
He’ll get us organised, scrabble enough scabby points to keep our head above water - then the better players will drift away in dribs and drabs to be replaced by a few plodders and the whole dreary process will begin again in August. When we’ll be veering into existential crisis territory once more, where everyone begins to ponder just what the exact point to it all is...
Whether that’s an internal SCFC issue, or a broader, greedy Premier League one, I conna fathom just yet. (that’s a debate for another time)
But like all fans, I am fickleness personified. And if he picks up a few good results, I shall be leading the calls for him to be carried from Longton to The Brit in a red and white litter, whilst adoring fans throw red roses at him and weep openly at seeing a glimpse of the new messiah... Starting tonight (I know it’s not technically him in charge), with a victory against the Munich cunts...
It’s a complicated issue for me, and I suspect a lot of others, at the moment.
Good old Stoke, wudner ave eet any other road 😎
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