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Post by sportsman on Jan 15, 2018 21:55:03 GMT
He needs 20m to spend, but he will most likely get 5m and a loan..... We need a central midfielder and a striker as a priority, maybe a right winger and left back too (most likely in summer now). 50m. Get the length out
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 15, 2018 21:58:09 GMT
He will have no say on transfers ,we’ve hired him off the dole as a yes man , carto and scholes will sort out the players we need , we will be buying for our return to the championship and selling out top stars so we can get the top dollar for them
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Post by miggoscfc on Jan 15, 2018 22:03:06 GMT
He will have no say on transfers ,we’ve hired him off the dole as a yes man , carto and scholes will sort out the players we need , we will be buying for our return to the championship and selling out top stars so we can get the top dollar for them This. Unfortunately the managerial appointment screams of cheapness a manager that had to do it at villa for 2 years whilst the stars got sold off and keep the club running on kids. Don't be surprised to see Jack Rodwell and similar rock up at Clayton wood before the end of the window. I'm feeling sorry for myself for all of us and for the manager. Arnie was right the clubs rotting from the top down.
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Post by crazyhorse on Jan 15, 2018 22:19:25 GMT
As an absolute minimum I think we need...
LB - £5m - hopefully Tymon's performance tonight will have made this a no-brainer for Lambert DCM - £10M - Stevie Wonder can see that this is an absolute necessity Striker - £20M - we dont have a starting striker at the club (scandalous really) and even if we tighten up with a new LB and DCM I dont think we'll score enough goals to stay up unless we get some quality in.
So using the above estimated values, he'll need around £35M. In a perfect world we'd have another DCM/CM but quality additions in those 3 areas would defo keep us up IMO - whether we can find them in the 2 weeks we have left is a massive question.
BTW, if people are seriously suggesting that we should sell Jack and Shaq in this window then I despair. We're owned by one of the richest families in the country and the biggest betting company in the world - if they wont splash £35m ish now, given the previous levels of underinvestment, without selling our best players, then we're fucked and deserve to down.
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Post by march4 on Jan 15, 2018 22:30:14 GMT
I would also say LB, DCM & goalscorer. Those 3 are needed immediately.
In the summer, major work is required.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 23:37:11 GMT
To be honest I don’t think our managers have been behind the signings since Diego Arismendi arrived. Of course they have. If we were going to give Quique money to spend we have to give Lambert money to spend don't we? I’m not so sure to be honest, I doubt we would have to offer Lambert anything near to the same package. The reported contract is half the size for example. Who knows? I’m just saying what I think, based on what I’ve seen the club do and what’s been reported in terms of transfers over the last few years. Let’s be honest, we’re all speculating at the end of the day.
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Post by SCFC92 on Jan 15, 2018 23:52:36 GMT
I think the board are genuinely worried, they would have stuck with their policy of seeing the season out with Hughes if they weren’t. I think he will be backed within reason.
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Post by withingtonstokie on Jan 16, 2018 0:25:30 GMT
I would also say LB, DCM & goalscorer. Those 3 are needed immediately. In the summer, major work is required. Agreed, they are the absolute musts. I’m sure Lambert will know this so let’s hope he has the money to spend to get them. None of our strikers look like scoring when they get chances as demonstrated for the umpteenth time at OT and the games before it. Crouch at 36 remains our most likely one to bag a goal!
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Post by skip on Jan 16, 2018 0:29:29 GMT
He needs three trucks full of used fifties and carte blanche on Peter's PayPal, that for sure.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 16, 2018 0:30:12 GMT
So we've given up on Diouf as striker again then?
That'll probably be because he's always shite up top and players better wide.
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Post by skip on Jan 16, 2018 0:32:06 GMT
So we've given up on Diouf as striker again then? Some Strikers Do Miss 'Em.
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Post by arnie3010 on Jan 16, 2018 2:01:40 GMT
What players are going want play for him tho..? Like Hughes got big names who will want play for him? The big names which getting us in this fucking trouble?
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Post by starkiller on Jan 16, 2018 3:23:08 GMT
Transfer policy stopped us getting a decent manager.
He won't get much money or much say.
Classic Coates returned a while back.
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Post by figo85 on Jan 16, 2018 3:35:09 GMT
Would be a little hypocritical if the board ask the fans to back the manager, and in turn they don't back him financially in the transfer window. Although not an exciting, rock the city appointment, I feel PL has got vast playing experience and this could rub off on the players.
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Post by Ex-term-oat-cake on Jan 16, 2018 4:00:53 GMT
Benteke and Berahino could be a tasty front two if they click.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Jan 16, 2018 5:30:38 GMT
Selling Butland
Butland price + 20 million to buy LB , CDM , ST
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Post by hanibal7 on Jan 16, 2018 5:40:35 GMT
Sweet FA Or at best a fraction of whatever we sell Butland for. Good luck Paul, you’re going to need lots of it. Does that mean Hughes needed loads of luck too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 5:48:11 GMT
What players are going want play for him tho..? Like Hughes got big names who will want play for him? The big names which getting us in this fucking trouble? For the most part, the big names (Arnie/Shaq/Bojan/Allen) have been fantastic. Only Wimmer has played consistently and been poor of the big money/big name signings. The ones letting us down are the hard working plodders. Not their fault in all cases but still. Crouch/Fletcher are by far the biggest individual problem players we have.
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Post by pyrus on Jan 16, 2018 5:56:50 GMT
I think he will get the same sort of money that we apparently were making available to QSF. The problem is spending it in January. Transfers, it seems, get worked on for months and then are concluded in the window. If your manager shows up with 16 days left to identify, negotiate with players, agents and club.... I think the only players we could get are likely to be stop-gaps rather than marquee signings.
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Post by Claus_SCFC on Jan 16, 2018 5:59:37 GMT
We need at least 3 players, who’ll go straight into the team. So a transfer kitty of at least £30m is needed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 6:39:53 GMT
Sweet FA Or at best a fraction of whatever we sell Butland for. Good luck Paul, you’re going to need lots of it. Does that mean Hughes needed loads of luck too. Hughes didn’t have much luck in the last few months, partly his making of course, but a few decisions here and there and we could be 6 points better off and he’d still be in a job.
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Post by scfcrmagic on Jan 16, 2018 6:53:53 GMT
The players seem to do a better job of scouting for new squad members than the scouts .....we could save a few brown envelopes stuffed full of readies by getting the info off the players ...a star chart in the dressing room should suffice as a reward for a decent recommendation..we’d save Peter loads of dosh and he’d reinvest it in better players .. Wouldn’t he ? Probably not ...
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 16, 2018 6:54:32 GMT
We will see in the next couple of weeks whether coates gives the mildest fuck about the city having a top flight club
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Post by sportsman on Jan 16, 2018 6:56:17 GMT
The prove is in the appointment of an out of work washed up Lambert. Says to me he's the only manager we could get with no transfer budget Oh shut up you tart. He'll have plenty to spend.
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Post by sportsman on Jan 16, 2018 6:57:55 GMT
I think the board are genuinely worried, they would have stuck with their policy of seeing the season out with Hughes if they weren’t. I think he will be backed within reason. At last. Someone with a brain.
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Post by sportsman on Jan 16, 2018 6:59:08 GMT
So we've given up on Diouf as striker again then? That'll probably be because he's always shite up top and players better wide. The best games I've seen him have for Stoke has been at right wing back!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 16, 2018 7:46:31 GMT
Of course they have. If we were going to give Quique money to spend we have to give Lambert money to spend don't we? I’m not so sure to be honest, I doubt we would have to offer Lambert anything near to the same package. The reported contract is half the size for example. Who knows? I’m just saying what I think, based on what I’ve seen the club do and what’s been reported in terms of transfers over the last few years. Let’s be honest, we’re all speculating at the end of the day. Pulis wouldn't have been up for a system where he wasn't buying the players (and indeed wasn't even a fan of the current structure with a transfer team all having a say). The vast, vast majority of Hughes' signings were all very Hughes-esque. These systems are commonplace in the Premier League and few if any see players imposed on managers. It's a team effort and the manager generally has final say. The board don't have to offer Lambert what they offered Quique salary wise, but why wouldn't they offer him the money in the transfer market? It would be suicide not to, and they've given the bloke a two and a half year deal?
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 16, 2018 8:03:26 GMT
Transfer policy stopped us getting a decent manager. He won't get much money or much say. Classic Coates returned a while back. We have got a decent manager.
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Post by walton corner on Jan 16, 2018 8:04:19 GMT
Benteke and Berahino could be a tasty front two if they click. Can't afford an ...if
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Post by wuzza on Jan 16, 2018 8:07:55 GMT
We need defensive defenders, box to box midfielders and a striker that can put himself about for a full 90. Do I think we will spend much in trying to acquire them? No. Championship planning is not far away and that doesn’t include having a shed load of debt.
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