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Post by Milkie on Jan 13, 2018 23:50:07 GMT
If MON, turns us down, I believe the only real option we have is to turn to ambitious lower league managers/ lesser European league managers who will fit into the blue print of developing the academy players, blooding youngsters and turning a profit on the odd gem we turn up. While it may be painful in the short term, at least they will relish the opportunity, will give their all, will galvanise the club and will accept the conditions set by the club.
For me leading the way would be
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Graham Potter
Paul hurst
The Cowleys brothers
If I was forced to make a decision I would opt for the Cowleys, purely as I have witnessed how they have galvanised a whole City and play decent football.
BLBPBS
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Post by banx10 on Jan 14, 2018 0:01:39 GMT
Defo any of these would be fantastic.
We also could do with a handful of British players from each of these clubs.
Need to pack the bags of every foreign player (hang on, give me a sec to re-think this, oh give Bauer a chance) and just buy 'real' British players.
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Post by lordb on Jan 14, 2018 0:04:17 GMT
Not for me, not in the current situation.
If we go down then that might make much more sense.
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Post by Milkie on Jan 14, 2018 0:08:32 GMT
So where would you go if MON declines? MON is just about the last of the acceptable stalwart managers, I am struggling after that. If we have the rumoured “ self sufficiency “ project then we have to bring in a manager that sees stoke as an opportunity and will work within its means?
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Post by lordb on Jan 14, 2018 0:15:37 GMT
If ONeill declines then yeah we have to accept relegation as an sure bet and go with an up and coming manager
Absolutely no point taking on Strachan, Pearson e.t.c.
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Post by Gods on Jan 14, 2018 0:15:52 GMT
Neil Aspin and John Rudge have engineered exactly the sort of turnaround we are looking for at Port Vale.
We could do much worse if we are looking for something leftfield, and Rudge knows the club of course.
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Post by bhp on Jan 14, 2018 0:18:01 GMT
Offer MON and Keane a 6 month deal with a reasonably healthy bonus if they keep us up and go for Potter at the end of the season.
Perhaps now isn't the time for him given that it's a gamble and his team are in the Europa League but what Potter has done is simply remarkable given the resources available and how he's got players from no where competing in the Europa League. He's a very intelligent man and knows a lot about the psychological aspect of the sport through his degree and average experiences of managers as a player.
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Post by robstokie on Jan 14, 2018 0:18:31 GMT
I think these are options IF we go down - we would need 1 a new plan for the future and 2 an exciting manager who would embrace youth and change within our club.
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Post by mrteddysalad on Jan 14, 2018 2:45:25 GMT
Lee Johnson
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 14, 2018 2:57:15 GMT
Neil Aspin
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Post by dadger on Jan 14, 2018 6:33:59 GMT
Chris wilder great job at Sheffield Utd
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Jan 14, 2018 6:51:14 GMT
The guy at Brentford had done a great job too. Has a mix of continental and British players. He's from the Midlands. I just think we need a name. When trying to talk to Shaq, Berahino and Crouch you need a touch of...this guy's done it before. We still have good targets outhere.
AVB
Pearson
Bilic
Silva at Watford looks unhappy after the Everton distraction.
jankovic
I don't think MON is a disaster and I think he will say yes. People's dislike of Keane comes from him as a player and what they see on TV but I always think he tells it the way it is. Maybe something we have been short of recently hence the post on the paper from crouch.
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Post by s7oke on Jan 14, 2018 6:53:00 GMT
Offer MON and Keane a 6 month deal with a reasonably healthy bonus if they keep us up and go for Potter at the end of the season. Perhaps now isn't the time for him given that it's a gamble and his team are in the Europa League but what Potter has done is simply remarkable given the resources available and how he's got players from no where competing in the Europa League. He's a very intelligent man and knows a lot about the psychological aspect of the sport through his degree and average experiences of managers as a player. Totally agree |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 14, 2018 7:02:03 GMT
Offer MON and Keane a 6 month deal with a reasonably healthy bonus if they keep us up and go for Potter at the end of the season. Perhaps now isn't the time for him given that it's a gamble and his team are in the Europa League but what Potter has done is simply remarkable given the resources available and how he's got players from no where competing in the Europa League. He's a very intelligent man and knows a lot about the psychological aspect of the sport through his degree and average experiences of managers as a player. Totally agree There's one major flaw with that which is O'Neill and Keane won't accept a 6 month deal no matter how lucrative. They turned Everton down because they only offered them an 18 month deal. So it looks like shit or bust. If we try to be too penny pinchingly cute we'll be on plan C quicker than we think. |
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jan 14, 2018 16:47:07 GMT
Chris wilder great job at Sheffield Utd I think it works well because he’s Sheffield United through and through. Would he do the same anywhere else? |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 14, 2018 16:52:16 GMT
Defo any of these would be fantastic. We also could do with a handful of British players from each of these clubs. Need to pack the bags of every foreign player (hang on, give me a sec to re-think this, oh give Bauer a chance) and just buy 'real' British players. This is a local club for local people. We'll have no trouble here. |
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jan 14, 2018 16:59:25 GMT
To be honest getting a manager that truly wants the job would be great, drive, passion, ambition and enough experience. Maybe it is someone from the lower leagues
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jan 14, 2018 16:59:30 GMT
Nigel Clough has plenty of experience and done well at Sheffield Utd and Burton.
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Post by milky on Jan 14, 2018 17:05:36 GMT
There's one major flaw with that which is O'Neill and Keane won't accept a 6 month deal no matter how lucrative. They turned Everton down because they only offered them an 18 month deal. So it looks like shit or bust. If we try to be too penny pinchingly cute we'll be on plan C quicker than we think. Due to our general fannying around and dithering MON can probably write his own contract now , so desperate will we be. |
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Post by smallthorner on Jan 14, 2018 17:16:02 GMT
There's one major flaw with that which is O'Neill and Keane won't accept a 6 month deal no matter how lucrative. They turned Everton down because they only offered them an 18 month deal. So it looks like shit or bust. If we try to be too penny pinchingly cute we'll be on plan C quicker than we think. Is that true about Everton? I mean is it fact or general hearsay? |
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Post by smallthorner on Jan 14, 2018 17:17:19 GMT
There's one major flaw with that which is O'Neill and Keane won't accept a 6 month deal no matter how lucrative. They turned Everton down because they only offered them an 18 month deal. So it looks like shit or bust. If we try to be too penny pinchingly cute we'll be on plan C quicker than we think. Due to our general fannying around and dithering MON can probably write his own contract now , so desperate will we be. We do seem to have a real ability to "fanny around" don't we. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 14, 2018 17:26:45 GMT
There's one major flaw with that which is O'Neill and Keane won't accept a 6 month deal no matter how lucrative. They turned Everton down because they only offered them an 18 month deal. So it looks like shit or bust. If we try to be too penny pinchingly cute we'll be on plan C quicker than we think. Is that true about Everton? I mean is it fact or general hearsay? All I can say mate is that it was in the press as being the case the same as the West Ham job who also wanted him on a short term contract which eventually went to Moyes. I have no idea of the veracity of any of those stories. |
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Post by spoton on Jan 14, 2018 17:30:09 GMT
Why as the job not been advertised, that way we only get managers who want to be here
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 14, 2018 17:36:42 GMT
Jokanovic looks the part to me - gets struggling teams performing in quick time and has done well wherever he's been - and by rights should have already had Premiership experience at Watford. Also known to be unhappy at Fulham due to lack of backing so shouldn't be difficult to prize away.
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Post by Milkie on Jan 14, 2018 19:00:53 GMT
I can give the Cowley’s a knock, best start devising plan D while we are at it !
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Post by lordb on Jan 14, 2018 19:10:49 GMT
Contrary to my earlier answer the op has called it.
We are down now,no point going for Strachan or Pearson e.t.c.
Give it to Potter and get ready for the Championship
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Post by Veritas on Jan 14, 2018 19:40:21 GMT
I really have no clue as to what we should do or are going to do next!!
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Post by smiler_andy on Jan 14, 2018 19:41:25 GMT
Potter Time!
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Post by Boothen on Jan 14, 2018 19:42:15 GMT
I had my tongue firmly in my cheek when I suggested sounding out Glen Hoddle, but now.....
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 14, 2018 19:42:52 GMT
I think we should go for that pair of lunatics who manage Salford City. ???
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