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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2018 18:17:26 GMT
Or was his contract up and not renewed?
He’s good on paper and has a good CV, but being let go by Watford leaves a bit of a question mark?
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Post by webbyscfc on Jan 12, 2018 18:20:11 GMT
Or was his contract up and not renewed? He’s good on paper and has a good CV, but being let go by Watford leaves a bit of a question mark? Because that’s wat Watford do. He an amazing job considering what was at his disposal for Watford’s first season back in the prem. will be surprised if Garcia is at Watford come the end of next season, even this season. |
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Jan 12, 2018 18:20:13 GMT
From memory (which is shite btw) wasn't it mutual agreement? Did he cite broken promises or something.
Probably complete hoss shit. :-)
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Post by LH_SCFC on Jan 12, 2018 18:21:55 GMT
The question mark is over Watford, rather than QSF. They’ve had eight managers in just over five years in what has arguably been a relatively successful period for them.
In short, their owners are mad as a box of frogs.
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Post by serpico on Jan 12, 2018 18:21:57 GMT
He doesn't seem to stick around anywhere for very long :/
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 12, 2018 18:22:18 GMT
Might have been their poor end to the season and waning fan support.
Deeney was certainly gutted about it and thought he’d improved him a lot as a player.
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Post by geoff321 on Jan 12, 2018 18:24:49 GMT
Think he's been sacked 4 times, although that includes 1 mutual consent.
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 12, 2018 18:25:46 GMT
Name me a manager that Stoke could employ who hasn't had the bullet?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2018 18:26:49 GMT
The high turnover of Watford managers seems to be endemic at the club. Since we've been in the Prem they've had TWELVE managers, with the longest serving being Malky Mackay who lasted 2 whole seasons.
Couple this with the fact that QSF had a poor end to the season, it just looks like a clusterfuck. But it seems to be working for them, right?
Actually, it looks like the tide has turned amongst the Watford 'faithful' and they can't wait to see the back of Silva now...
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Post by chuckrocky on Jan 12, 2018 18:27:25 GMT
Bear in mind that Watford sacked the man that got them promoted and then only offered his successor a twelve month contract, which they didn’t extend despite him keeping them up easily and taking them to a cup semi-final.
That club is a managers graveyard, they have no interest in allowing a manger to build something long-term.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 12, 2018 18:33:14 GMT
Watford were a bit complicated then.
There was that furore over loads of Udinese loanees whilst going for promotion.
Again hazy memory but weren't they doing a kind of 'moneyball' thing, players from Italy/Spain, and a similar thing with managers.
Whilst owning several clubs.
Watford lost a bit of fizz after the Cup exit, time to move on.
If he's hitching up for a five stretch, it's a different kettle of fish.
I'll judge him on what he does here.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2018 18:42:33 GMT
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Post by aberdeenstokie on Jan 12, 2018 18:44:23 GMT
From the comments section on the DM....a Watford fans thoughts. Read on. Maybe not right but it’s another take on matters for sure. Quique Sanchez Flores on brink of becoming new Stoke manager dailym.ai/2FuvSHb“QSF was not dismissed by Watford. He had a get out clause written into the contract, which he then activated after 12 months.” |
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Post by maccastokie on Jan 12, 2018 18:45:21 GMT
He's a good manager he will be good for stoke
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Post by leicspotter on Jan 12, 2018 18:46:44 GMT
Watford have a way of operating that seems to work for them.
In a nutshell, they have a "structure" that is stable, and then employ coaches on relatively short-term deals.
The idea is that the coach will either a) succeed and go on to better things or b) fail and be sacked. Either way, they don't expect to keep coaches more than 2 or 3 seasons
Behind the scenes appears to be fairly settled
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Post by ibby on Jan 12, 2018 18:50:29 GMT
Watford owners were not happy about where they finished. That why he went. Watford fans were hurting about at the time.
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Post by stokebloke on Jan 12, 2018 18:50:55 GMT
Watford fan where I work told me he was loved by the hornet fans...thats good enough for me 👍
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Post by stokiejoe on Jan 12, 2018 18:53:52 GMT
Delighted to be a lifelong Stoke fan with stable local owners, very thankful not to be a Watford fan with daft owners.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jan 12, 2018 18:57:23 GMT
Sacked because of boring football according to their fans.
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Post by smallthorner on Jan 12, 2018 19:01:26 GMT
Sacked because of boring football according to their fans. Is that true or you just stirring? |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jan 12, 2018 19:02:14 GMT
Sacked because of boring football according to their fans. Is that true or you just stirring? It's true. |
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Post by nottspotter on Jan 12, 2018 19:11:26 GMT
I’m sure I’ve heard or read somewhere that Watford have a weird ‘1 or 2 year rotational’ management system? Part of the boards policy.
I may however have dreamt that?
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Post by mattador78 on Jan 12, 2018 19:32:28 GMT
I’m sure I’ve heard or read somewhere that Watford have a weird ‘1 or 2 year rotational’ management system? Part of the boards policy. I may however have dreamt that? Nope I saw that somewhere as well something to do with the moneyball type principals being applied. It’s apparently the adverage span of a manager in the top flight exceptions such as Wenger and Ferguson aside so Watford push before they fall |
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Post by thisfootballclub on Jan 12, 2018 19:33:57 GMT
I’m sure I’ve heard or read somewhere that Watford have a weird ‘1 or 2 year rotational’ management system? Part of the boards policy. I may however have dreamt that? No your right, they do have a policy of replacing the manger every year or so regardless of how he's performed. It's an interesting view as well we know with Hughes been here a season too long. |
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Post by swampySCFC on Jan 12, 2018 20:59:57 GMT
Fuck knows what QSF thinks when Cartwright walks in to the room
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Post by salopstick on Jan 12, 2018 21:24:29 GMT
I’m sure I’ve heard or read somewhere that Watford have a weird ‘1 or 2 year rotational’ management system? Part of the boards policy. I may however have dreamt that? Nope I saw that somewhere as well something to do with the moneyball type principals being applied. It’s apparently the adverage span of a manager in the top flight exceptions such as Wenger and Ferguson aside so Watford push before they fall It’s a system that has merit as long as you have the right people behind the scenes running the club. At the end of the day it’s all about the players, they need coaching and motivating and a change is as good as a rest. A long term manager can bring stability but familiarity breeds contempt as we have found out |
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Post by thevoid on Jan 12, 2018 21:31:01 GMT
Watford get through managers like Vale fans get through Aldi ready meals for one.
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Post by spiderpuss on Jan 12, 2018 21:36:10 GMT
If he does come here, at least it will be a clean slate. There's no divisory factors and he can be rest assured we're 100% behind his efforts. I like that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2018 21:40:23 GMT
Name me a manager that Stoke could employ who hasn't had the bullet? The point I’m making is that Watford are no better than us - if anything a smaller club. So if he wasn’t right for them, what makes him right for us? (I am playing Devil’s advocate, I’m more than happy to see him come here) Every manager has had the bullet at some point. It’s by whom which is interesting (if sacked by England, or a top 4 club, etc, then it’s not really an issue) |
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Post by richyrich on Jan 12, 2018 21:41:15 GMT
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