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Post by ethers26 on Jan 12, 2018 23:34:58 GMT
Is he really? He’s a great player but is he world class, I don’t know but I’m looking forward to watching him against the very best in the world this summer. I think he needs to prove he’s world class by playing the top teams he can only do that if we progress in the World Cup. Broke Alan Shearers season record in the prem with 6 less games played. Also beat season scores of Henry, Van Persie, Aguero and Suarez..... Also scored more goals than Messi, Lewandowski, Cavani and Ronaldo in the same calendar year. Only Messi and Ronaldo have ever scored more in a previous calendar year in the history of the sport in europe.... More Hat-tricks in a premier league year than anyone else in history. Averages 30+ goals a season in the prem for the last 4 seasons (ever since his first team breakthrough) Yeah, he's world class Oh and he's still only 24 Haha. The most comprehensive end to a debate I've probably ever seen.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jan 12, 2018 23:49:38 GMT
The question is about Egypt vs England. We do have quality players compared to them. If you don't think so then you haven't been watching much football. England players in particular have been very impressive this season. Ok this is the last time I'm going to say this. The bit of your post I highlighted was your assertion that we had many quality players. I did not comment on your assertion that Egypt only has one qulaity player or the comparitive abilities (or not ) of the two teams. I do not really care about Egypt, I don't really care about England if truth be told mainly because of the dearth of quality players. Is that clear? Well I'm not going to go into another topic, just highlighting the quality of our players compared to Egypt.
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Post by kjpt140v on Jan 13, 2018 18:38:42 GMT
Is he really? He’s a great player but is he world class, I don’t know but I’m looking forward to watching him against the very best in the world this summer. I think he needs to prove he’s world class by playing the top teams he can only do that if we progress in the World Cup. I think he's the only current England player that Barca/Real/PSG would be slightly interested in. Does that make him world class?
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Post by kjpt140v on Jan 13, 2018 18:42:45 GMT
Broke Alan Shearers season record in the prem with 6 less games played. Also beat season scores of Henry, Van Persie, Aguero and Suarez..... Also scored more goals than Messi, Lewandowski, Cavani and Ronaldo in the same calendar year. Only Messi and Ronaldo have ever scored more in a previous calendar year in the history of the sport in europe.... More Hat-tricks in a premier league year than anyone else in history. Averages 30+ goals a season in the prem for the last 4 seasons (ever since his first team breakthrough) Yeah, he's world class Oh and he's still only 24 Haha. The most comprehensive end to a debate I've probably ever seen. You think so, what medals does he have, what teams is he playing against, what sort of players is he playing alongside? You can’t use domestic stats to prove he’s world class, you have to see what he does against the very best in the world.
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Post by kjpt140v on Jan 13, 2018 18:45:33 GMT
Is he really? He’s a great player but is he world class, I don’t know but I’m looking forward to watching him against the very best in the world this summer. I think he needs to prove he’s world class by playing the top teams he can only do that if we progress in the World Cup. Broke Alan Shearers season record in the prem with 6 less games played. Also beat season scores of Henry, Van Persie, Aguero and Suarez..... Also scored more goals than Messi, Lewandowski, Cavani and Ronaldo in the same calendar year. Only Messi and Ronaldo have ever scored more in a previous calendar year in the history of the sport in europe.... More Hat-tricks in a premier league year than anyone else in history. Averages 30+ goals a season in the prem for the last 4 seasons (ever since his first team breakthrough) Yeah, he's world class Oh and he's still only 24 You think so, what medals does he have, what teams is he playing against, what sort of players is he playing alongside? You can’t use domestic stats to prove he’s world class, you have to see what he does against the very best in the world. Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/275662/sobhi-liverpool?page=4#ixzz545k9wpX9
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Post by lordb on Jan 13, 2018 18:47:44 GMT
I think he's the only current England player that Barca/Real/PSG would be slightly interested in. Does that make him world class? Are there some better sides out there? If the best sides in the world want you then surely you're world class?
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Post by StokeTudoGuy on Jan 13, 2018 19:07:45 GMT
Broke Alan Shearers season record in the prem with 6 less games played. Also beat season scores of Henry, Van Persie, Aguero and Suarez..... Also scored more goals than Messi, Lewandowski, Cavani and Ronaldo in the same calendar year. Only Messi and Ronaldo have ever scored more in a previous calendar year in the history of the sport in europe.... More Hat-tricks in a premier league year than anyone else in history. Averages 30+ goals a season in the prem for the last 4 seasons (ever since his first team breakthrough) Yeah, he's world class Oh and he's still only 24 You think so, what medals does he have, what teams is he playing against, what sort of players is he playing alongside? You can’t use domestic stats to prove he’s world class, you have to see what he does against the very best in the world. Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/275662/sobhi-liverpool?page=4#ixzz545k9wpX9I would argue the fact he is doing this at Tottenham and not Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich et al. Only compounds how good he is. I dont think Messi would have won so many Balon d'or if he was at Tottenham his entire career. He is playing in the English Premier League which is undoubtedly one of the best leagues in world club football, so you can hardly cite lack of quality opposition. Re-medals, pretty sure he has at least a young player of the year and some golden boots. I don't think anyone doubts Aguero, Suarez, Van Persie etc. Are or recently were World Class and Kane is at least matching their accomplishments though more likely exceeding them. I know it's all subjective but I find it hard to see how anyone who has seen him play could argue Kane isnt world class.
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Post by kjpt140v on Jan 13, 2018 19:12:01 GMT
Does that make him world class? Are there some better sides out there? If the best sides in the world want you then surely you're world class? I’m not arguing that he is not world class what I’m saying is that he has to prove it on the world stage. Your theory doesn’t really stand, How many players have been deemed world class and bombed after a transfer. How excited we were to sign £18m players only to see one completely dip out and the second not looking anything like an £18m player? Out of interest have a look at the teams Kane has scored his hat tricks against. I believe Harry Kane is a fantastic player and the most exciting forward we have had for a long, long time. I’m really looking forward to this World Cup because of the talent we seem to have and sincerely hope Harry comes out of it with the honour of being deemed without reservation a world class player.
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Post by thedarkknight on Jan 14, 2018 20:36:24 GMT
Nzonzi, one of the most consistent midfielders in the world? LMFAO, stop smoking the crack. We sold our best midfielder yes. One of the best in the world? He wasn't/isn't even one of the best from his country! Barcelona don't come calling if you're shit mate. Thought he was at Seville? My bad!
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