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Post by warringtonstokie on Jan 11, 2018 15:51:37 GMT
Noticed Quique did a stint at Al Ahly. No doubt their paths crossed, wonder how they got on? Different clubs mate, QSF was at Al Ahli in Dubai, Ramadan was at Al Ahly in Egypt
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 11, 2018 15:55:08 GMT
Noticed Quique did a stint at Al Ahly. No doubt their paths crossed, wonder how they got on? Different clubs mate, QSF was at Al Ahli in Dubai, Ramadan was at Al Ahly in Egypt Doh! shit detective work on my part. Cheers. As you were.
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Post by Old School Stokie on Jan 11, 2018 16:07:39 GMT
I've not seen him beat a man, when he gets to a defender he doesnt know what to do, lacks confidence and cant cross
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Post by nsd on Jan 11, 2018 16:14:47 GMT
Nzonzi, one of the most consistent midfielders in the world? LMFAO, stop smoking the crack. We sold our best midfielder yes. One of the best in the world? He wasn't/isn't even one of the best from his country! Barcelona don't come calling if you're shit mate. But Liverpool do apparently?
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Jan 11, 2018 16:22:29 GMT
When he first signed I looked at YouTube videos of him and I must say he looked absolute class and a player who in time would fit nicely into our team. Although disappointingly we lost on the night, he also looked quality on his debut against Hull. Since then he hasn’t really made the strides we’d hoped hoped for until the last few games when it looks like he’s getting to grips with the rigours of the Premier League. The lad is only 20 and does now look to be learning fast. If we keep him as I really hope we do I’m sure he’s going to be one of the mainstays of the team for a good few years to come. The problem is of course that if Liverpool do come calling waving a cheque in the region of £25 - £30 million in our current position we shouldn’t (and probably won’t) stand in his way. If that’s the case, maybe Danny Ings as a makeweight plus cash to spend in central midfield and central defence would be a better option for us in our current plight.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Jan 11, 2018 16:45:17 GMT
He is good, I am sure about that 100% but he lost his confidence, He wasted more than a year of his career with Hughes, It is not only because he didn't improve but also he was much better than that 2 years ago. It deserves to try the new manager, he needs good coaching and confidence and he may earn that with the new manager then he can move for higher fees or to a better team than Liverpool.
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Post by redstriper on Jan 11, 2018 16:49:49 GMT
He is good, I am sure about that 100% but he lost his confidence, He wasted more than a year of his career with Hughes, It is not only because he didn't improve but also he was much better than that 2 years ago. It deserves to try the new manager, he needs good coaching and confidence and he may earn that with the new manager then he can move for higher fees or to a better team than Liverpool. spot on. lets hope the new regime brings out the best in him. He's been messed about but he has shown a professional attitude.
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Post by bhp on Jan 11, 2018 16:53:31 GMT
I like Sobhi but he's a mile away from being the finished article Brian. He's 20. Do you expect the finished article from a 20 year old?
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Post by raythesailor on Jan 11, 2018 16:56:21 GMT
Hughes was no good for him.
Coached, chosen to play and encoreaged this lad has the potential and we could have the top six plus others from abroad queuing up with bags full of money in a couple of years time.
A January move should be out of the question.
That of course is assuming that he and we are playing in the Premiership.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jan 11, 2018 16:59:26 GMT
When he first signed I looked at YouTube videos of him and I must say he looked absolute class and a player who in time would fit nicely into our team. Although disappointingly we lost on the night, he also looked quality on his debut against Hull. Since then he hasn’t really made the strides we’d hoped hoped for until the last few games when it looks like he’s getting to grips with the rigours of the Premier League. The lad is only 20 and does now look to be learning fast. If we keep him as I really hope we do I’m sure he’s going to be one of the mainstays of the team for a good few years to come. The problem is of course that if Liverpool do come calling waving a cheque in the region of £25 - £30 million in our current position we shouldn’t (and probably won’t) stand in his way. If that’s the case, maybe Danny Ings as a makeweight plus cash to spend in central midfield and central defence would be a better option for us in our current plight. £25 or £30 million???? Christ, if that happened we'd sell him. He looks fine in spurts but he's miles off really, and yes I know he's only 20. He needs to cross a lot more but really, really needs to develop his shooting prowess. Both his goals haven't been shots as such but side foots finishing off a cross, if you get my drift. I can hardly recall him having what you'd call a shot to be honest. Not sure a relegation fight is where he'll shine at the moment.
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Post by bhp on Jan 11, 2018 17:01:14 GMT
Our internationally capped 20-year-old winger might be wanted by a club who are much better than us and have just sold a player for £142, presumably he has been recommended by the African player of the year who is his international teammate. And, in a market where players like Jordon Ibe cost £15m, you'd sell him for £10m? Seriously, give you head a wobble. I have no idea what Ramadan's real potential actually is, but he's bloody 20. I think people have been forgetting that this season. He's been inconsistent and patchy, but actually had a relatively good December. There is a player in there somewhere, but people are quick to get on his back because he's not Marko Arnautovic. Yes, but we're Stoke city and we sold one of the best and most consistent midfielders in the world for £8m. £10m to not have to carry Ramadan for the remainder of the season in my eyes is a bargain. Far better wingers out there that wouldn't cost that. Aha this is laughable, you are aware that we sold N'Zonzi who to note was in the last few months of his contract and wasn't going to renew. That deal was also during the old TV deal where players prices were not as extortionate as they currently are. A contracted N'Zonzi would have cost £20m give or take and now with football inflation where it is he'd be easily £35m for the same player, same age etc. Saying you'd sell a promising 20 year old Premier League winger for £10m is laughable when Huddersfield are going to sign a Championship winger who is 4 years older for the same price, rising upto £12m. There's plenty of issues in the squad other than a 20 year old who's yet to fulfil his potential.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Jan 11, 2018 17:04:20 GMT
He's 20, has a cool exotic name and young girls fancy him.
Doesn't that automatically guarantee a 45mill starting bid in Prem football nowadays?
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Post by jeycov on Jan 11, 2018 17:14:53 GMT
Let’s show our ambition and not sell our young and promising players Sobhi ( like the rest of our players) need the opportunity to play regularly and develop understanding with those around him Certainly one to keep in this window
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Post by skip on Jan 11, 2018 17:29:25 GMT
I like Sobhi but he's a mile away from being the finished article Brian. He's 20. Do you expect the finished article from a 20 year old? Late bloomers and all that. Latent talent versus taught skills...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 17:38:15 GMT
Straight swap for their Egyptian!!!
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Post by nott1 on Jan 11, 2018 17:41:54 GMT
The vultures are lining up!
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Post by steinovschmeichel on Jan 11, 2018 19:44:19 GMT
He was great in his first season then loopy Hughes changed the system and dropped sobhi. This season he plays two games and scored twice then Hughes drops him. The lad needs a proper chance because he clearly has something most out other players don’t have
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Post by leoncort on Jan 11, 2018 19:57:50 GMT
Yes, but we're Stoke city and we sold one of the best and most consistent midfielders in the world for £8m. £10m to not have to carry Ramadan for the remainder of the season in my eyes is a bargain. Far better wingers out there that wouldn't cost that. Aha this is laughable, you are aware that we sold N'Zonzi who to note was in the last few months of his contract and wasn't going to renew. That deal was also during the old TV deal where players prices were not as extortionate as they currently are. A contracted N'Zonzi would have cost £20m give or take and now with football inflation where it is he'd be easily £35m for the same player, same age etc. Saying you'd sell a promising 20 year old Premier League winger for £10m is laughable when Huddersfield are going to sign a Championship winger who is 4 years older for the same price, rising upto £12m. There's plenty of issues in the squad other than a 20 year old who's yet to fulfil his potential. You were doing really well until you thought Pritchard was a winger. Clearly don't know a lot.
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Post by superheroantonius on Jan 11, 2018 20:14:04 GMT
I like him Regarding his crossing ...he is one footed and if he was to play on the right ,he would get more crosses in . Definitely needs to shoot more and work on his shooting though If he gets the games , he will learn . Unlike wimmer the lad can play . I think he will come good somewhere :-)
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Post by harrysburrow on Jan 11, 2018 20:15:14 GMT
Be funny if we sold a player whilst looking for another manager too? Cherry on the cake that!
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Post by harrysburrow on Jan 11, 2018 20:17:01 GMT
Be funny if we sold a player whilst looking for another manager too? Cherry on the cake that!
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Post by superheroantonius on Jan 11, 2018 21:10:07 GMT
I've not seen him beat a man, when he gets to a defender he doesnt know what to do, lacks confidence and cant cross Then we have definetly established you are not the coventry right back. I am confident if you asked coventrys right back... He would confirm He doesnt lack confidence or the ability to beat his man Having said that... Fecking shoot lad! And stop passing the ball, when you have gone past their last man And have clear sight of the goal.
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Post by spiderpuss on Jan 11, 2018 22:40:42 GMT
Nobody should be going at all until the new manager has had a chance to view. The bin dippers will have to check their bins.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jan 12, 2018 3:27:05 GMT
He is good, I am sure about that 100% but he lost his confidence, He wasted more than a year of his career with Hughes, It is not only because he didn't improve but also he was much better than that 2 years ago. It deserves to try the new manager, he needs good coaching and confidence and he may earn that with the new manager then he can move for higher fees or to a better team than Liverpool. Did you also think he might've just been playing against much poorer opposition before? This is the Premier League. It's tough.
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Post by kustokie on Jan 12, 2018 3:33:21 GMT
I've not seen him beat a man, when he gets to a defender he doesnt know what to do, lacks confidence and cant cross He does drift in at the far post and can find the net, which we haven’t done much of this season.
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Post by kustokie on Jan 12, 2018 3:42:01 GMT
This is unsubstantiated journalism and a non-story. Nevertheless Klopp would not be doing his job if he didn’t ask all his players about young and upcoming players. Klopp knows that employees are often the best recruiters because they talk to their peers all the time.
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Post by darksideofthemoon on Jan 12, 2018 3:51:49 GMT
F*ck off Liverpool....................just F*CK OFF!!!!!
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Post by Sfance on Jan 12, 2018 4:15:32 GMT
We absolutely should not let him go. He’s just one more player that Hughes has managed not only to not improve but to actually make worse. He has loads of potential. Just needs a new manager to get him on the right track again.
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Post by hanibal7 on Jan 12, 2018 5:49:47 GMT
the talent is there and his recent goal at Huddersfield was encouraging , hopefully he will be one of about 15 that our new manager will be able to get more out of than we have seen for a while . in ye dreams
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Post by PenkPonther on Jan 12, 2018 12:30:27 GMT
Our most promising youngster. To sell him for a knockdown fee would be madness.
Even the best players in the World often haven't achieved anything at his age. Cristiano Ronaldo and Raheem Sterling had only just crept into double figures of goals for Utd and Liverpool, and they were surrounded by World class players.
Ramadan is just 20. Lets set our expectation levels to that age, and if he also makes a leap forward in the next 3 years or so, we could have a top drawer player.
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