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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jan 7, 2018 11:01:31 GMT
Why has it not been announced? Hughes said in his interview that he should know about a player coming later that day (yesterday) so maybe it was a Hughes signing after all. Makes sense to wait for the new manager to seem like he's done some business ASAP, which we now know will be a load of bollocks. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 11:03:02 GMT
Rumours that we are signing him, anyone know much about him? He is very good - plays for Austria´s National Team. Think I need my glasses on. I misread that as Austria's Nantwich Town. |
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Post by lordb on Jan 7, 2018 11:03:52 GMT
Why has it not been announced? Hughes said in his interview that he should know about a player coming later that day (yesterday) so maybe it was a Hughes signing after all. Makes sense to wait for the new manager to seem like he's done some business ASAP, which we now know will be a load of bollocks. So just announce it then. Stoke not you... Actually Dave perhaps that's an idea. Could you start announcing transfers? |
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Post by malteser68 on Jan 7, 2018 11:04:46 GMT
Right back Plays for Rubin Kazan Insightful. Oh yes, very insightful 🤣 |
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jan 7, 2018 11:05:39 GMT
Hughes said in his interview that he should know about a player coming later that day (yesterday) so maybe it was a Hughes signing after all. Makes sense to wait for the new manager to seem like he's done some business ASAP, which we now know will be a load of bollocks. So just announce it then. Stoke not you... Actually Dave perhaps that's an idea. Could you start announcing transfers? Yeah I don't mind doing it. I'll do it in the style of Mystery Guest on A Question of Sport. Start with a foot here, a wrist there. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 7, 2018 11:06:31 GMT
Why has it not been announced? Maybe he will be announced together with the new manager...a kind of Chic Bates, Dirk Shreider (sp?) and Paul Stewart moment? |
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Post by malteser68 on Jan 7, 2018 11:06:37 GMT
Hopefully not Wimmer 2.0? Please...pretty please. Bauer is a complete different player - for a defender, Bauer is technically much more equipped than Wimmer My 10-year old son is technically more equipped than Wimmer |
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Post by stokemark on Jan 7, 2018 11:08:44 GMT
Fits Stokes core selection criteria
Cheap
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Post by stokemark on Jan 7, 2018 11:10:15 GMT
Why has it not been announced? Maybe he will be announced together with the new manager...a kind of Chic Bates, Dirk Shreider (sp?) and Paul Stewart moment? I liked how Dirk decided it was better that he be called that than the original 'Dick' |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 7, 2018 11:13:38 GMT
Why has it not been announced? Hughes said in his interview that he should know about a player coming later that day (yesterday) so maybe it was a Hughes signing after all. Makes sense to wait for the new manager to seem like he's done some business ASAP, which we now know will be a load of bollocks. Hughes said that they had irons in the fire and that they needed some help. I think the manager identifies the positions he needs filling in his team and that players are then identified and brought in. How much input the manager has into the identity of those players is anyone's guess. If we have really signed a player, whilst the first team was on FA Cup duty and prior to the manager being sacked, then I think it is perfectly valid to question how much input the manager actually has on incoming and indeed outgoing, players. |
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Post by kurt on Jan 7, 2018 11:17:41 GMT
Bauer is a complete different player - for a defender, Bauer is technically much more equipped than Wimmer My 10-year old son is technically more equipped than Wimmer I know, that most of you will disagree, but i still think Wimmer will come good with a new manager who is able to organize that shower |
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 7, 2018 11:19:43 GMT
Hughes said in his interview that he should know about a player coming later that day (yesterday) so maybe it was a Hughes signing after all. Makes sense to wait for the new manager to seem like he's done some business ASAP, which we now know will be a load of bollocks. Hughes said that they had irons in the fire and that they needed some help. I think the manager identifies the positions he needs filling in his team and that players are then identified and brought in. How much input the manager has into the identity of those players is anyone's guess. If we have really signed a player, whilst the first team was on FA Cup duty and prior to the manager being sacked, then I think it is perfectly valid to question how much input the manager actually has on incoming and indeed outgoing, players. Having recently asked about this of a friend who is currently a director of finance at a football league club, he said it is probably the case that as you say, the manager identifies the position, and the our transfer team do the research, take some names etc. Then the manager says who he would like in order of preference, then our transfer team get the one at the bottom of the list or indeed no one at all. Leaving the manager very pissed off hence some of the comments lately. I know that you know all this and why you have been arguing this point a lot lately. I'm just repeating the point here for emphasis, it isn't entirely mark hughes fault, the transfer team have a lot to answer for. Changing the manager won't change anything unless we also change our approach to transfers, and start getting some of the names who are at the top of the managers list. |
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Post by Jimm on Jan 7, 2018 11:24:10 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 7, 2018 12:20:24 GMT
Hughes said that they had irons in the fire and that they needed some help. I think the manager identifies the positions he needs filling in his team and that players are then identified and brought in. How much input the manager has into the identity of those players is anyone's guess. If we have really signed a player, whilst the first team was on FA Cup duty and prior to the manager being sacked, then I think it is perfectly valid to question how much input the manager actually has on incoming and indeed outgoing, players. Having recently asked about this of a friend who is currently a director of finance at a football league club, he said it is probably the case that as you say, the manager identifies the position, and the our transfer team do the research, take some names etc. Then the manager says who he would like in order of preference, then our transfer team get the one at the bottom of the list or indeed no one at all. Leaving the manager very pissed off hence some of the comments lately. I know that you know all this and why you have been arguing this point a lot lately. I'm just repeating the point here for emphasis, it isn't entirely mark hughes fault, the transfer team have a lot to answer for. Changing the manager won't change anything unless we also change our approach to transfers, and start getting some of the names who are at the top of the managers list. Isn't that how it's always worked? We clearly go for the top targets first Soares, Lemina etc but get gazumped or whatever at the last minute. That's shite but let's not pretend that Hughes wouldn't have had the biggest and final say. |
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Post by andystokey on Jan 7, 2018 12:23:41 GMT
Well if he was a MH choice he will be thinking twice about it after MH post match comments.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 7, 2018 12:41:47 GMT
Having recently asked about this of a friend who is currently a director of finance at a football league club, he said it is probably the case that as you say, the manager identifies the position, and the our transfer team do the research, take some names etc. Then the manager says who he would like in order of preference, then our transfer team get the one at the bottom of the list or indeed no one at all. Leaving the manager very pissed off hence some of the comments lately. I know that you know all this and why you have been arguing this point a lot lately. I'm just repeating the point here for emphasis, it isn't entirely mark hughes fault, the transfer team have a lot to answer for. Changing the manager won't change anything unless we also change our approach to transfers, and start getting some of the names who are at the top of the managers list. Isn't that how it's always worked? We clearly go for the top targets first Soares, Lemina etc but get gazumped or whatever at the last minute. That's shite but let's not pretend that Hughes wouldn't have had the biggest and final say. What is the final say though? He might agree to three names in one position, a,b,c. He might be entitled to think we will probably get a or b, he might have trusted the transfer team. The transfer team come back each time to say, 'heres an update Mark, we couldn't get a or b, we have agreed terms with c, can we get your seal of approval, chop chop its near the end of the transfer window'. Hughes is no doubt pissed off with it. He knows we need signings so agrees to it anyway. His fault here is not kicking off about it and insisting we get more A's or B's. Frankly though, the 'transfer team' are just as responsible |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 7, 2018 12:44:19 GMT
Isn't that how it's always worked? We clearly go for the top targets first Soares, Lemina etc but get gazumped or whatever at the last minute. That's shite but let's not pretend that Hughes wouldn't have had the biggest and final say. What is the final say though? He might agree to three names in one position, a,b,c. He might be entitled to think we will probably get a or b, he might have trusted the transfer team. The transfer team come back each time to say, 'heres an update Mark, we couldn't get a or b, we have agreed terms with c, can we get your seal of approval, chop chop its near the end of the transfer window'. Hughes is no doubt pissed off with it. He knows we need signings so agrees to it anyway. His fault here is not kicking off about it and insisting we get more A's or B's. Frankly though, the 'transfer team' are just as responsible In the instances I have know we have tried to sign A though. The wage structure and the quality of the cheaper options are the issue. The rest is how it should work. It doesn't mean he's undermined or they're not his signings. I think that's fanciful shit. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 7, 2018 12:47:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 12:54:12 GMT
Hughes has paid the price this season for ultimately not getting his ducks in a row before the last window ended. He wanted to play with wing backs to give Shaqiri a more Central role, and if this fella is actually a Hughes signing it shows that he was at least trying to address this. All too little too late, I guess we’ll never know whether it was complacency by Hughes, being let down by the transfer team or a combination of both.... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 12:59:28 GMT
I'm sold on him already.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 7, 2018 13:05:47 GMT
He's free. They just want him off the wages. Looks pretty decent. Is he? He only signed at the start of last season though. Transfermarkt has him down at £3m-£4m. Thought I read where Ruben had told a few of there players including Bauer to start looking for new players |
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Post by kjpt140v on Jan 7, 2018 13:09:23 GMT
How does this work then? We haven't a manager, if we believe what we read the talks are past advanced. A new manager will then have a player he's had no input with. How involved was Hughes?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 13:09:49 GMT
Is he? He only signed at the start of last season though. Transfermarkt has him down at £3m-£4m. Thought I read where Ruben had told a few of there players including Bauer to start looking for new players Yeah they'd still want a fee presumable. |
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 7, 2018 13:12:45 GMT
What is the final say though? He might agree to three names in one position, a,b,c. He might be entitled to think we will probably get a or b, he might have trusted the transfer team. The transfer team come back each time to say, 'heres an update Mark, we couldn't get a or b, we have agreed terms with c, can we get your seal of approval, chop chop its near the end of the transfer window'. Hughes is no doubt pissed off with it. He knows we need signings so agrees to it anyway. His fault here is not kicking off about it and insisting we get more A's or B's. Frankly though, the 'transfer team' are just as responsible In the instances I have know we have tried to sign A though. The wage structure and the quality of the cheaper options are the issue. The rest is how it should work. It doesn't mean he's undermined or they're not his signings. I think that's fanciful shit. I too would think that is fanciful were it not for Hughes' own comments recently |
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Post by likelyladgalizmo on Jan 7, 2018 13:13:57 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 7, 2018 13:16:52 GMT
In the instances I have know we have tried to sign A though. The wage structure and the quality of the cheaper options are the issue. The rest is how it should work. It doesn't mean he's undermined or they're not his signings. I think that's fanciful shit. I too would think that is fanciful were it not for Hughes' own comments recently He's said the transfers are his own players. Of course he's going to be frustrated with transfers. Tony Scholes isn't very good. But they are his players. |
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Jan 7, 2018 13:18:33 GMT
As I said in the other thread we were after a non Russian player currently playing in Russia. Seems the word is finally out.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 13:19:54 GMT
As I said in the other thread we were after a non Russian player currently playing in Russia. Seems the word is finally out. Is this a Megson signing then 😂 |
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Jan 7, 2018 13:21:06 GMT
As I said in the other thread we were after a non Russian player currently playing in Russia. Seems the word is finally out. Is this a Megson signing then 😂 No. The deal has been lined up for some time as I posted several days ago. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jan 7, 2018 13:24:01 GMT
As I said in the other thread we were after a non Russian player currently playing in Russia. Seems the word is finally out. Funny that, you were talking about a midfielder.. |
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