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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 22:49:51 GMT
I am the eternal optimist, and it's an old cliché that we will stay up because of the shit below us, but I think that will be true. In bite sized chunks these are my predictions. January. Away v Man Utd...0 Home v Udders...3 Home v Watford...3
Feb Away v Bnmth...1 Home v Brighton 3 The 4 above are the 4 most crucial games Away v Leicester 0
Mar Away v Southampton...1 Home v Man City...0 Home v Everton...0 Away v Arsenal...0
Apr Home v Spurs...0 Away v West Ham..0 That would be 5 consecutive defeats.... and only 1 point from 7 games. Home v Burnley..3 Away v Liverpool..0
May Home v Palace....3 points....Hopefully Palace will be safe by then. Away v Swansea...3 Points...Hopefully Swansea will be down by then.
Gonna be close....
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Post by Dave the Rave on Jan 3, 2018 22:51:05 GMT
We've been told for ages by the oracles on here that Hughes is a demi-god.
Chill out.
It'll all come good.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 22:53:25 GMT
We've been told for ages by the oracles on here that Hughes is a demi-god. Chill out. It'll all come good. Phew....That's a relief...
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Post by ethers26 on Jan 3, 2018 22:57:41 GMT
Fuck me.
The winnable fixtures between now and march might put people off changing manager just yet.
MASSIVE risk bringing in a new manager expecting him to hit the ground running through to March. Because I wouldn't expect us to get many points from them on in!
Hughes has done OKAY against teams around us (draws vs Huddersfield, Brighton, West Brom away, unlucky against palace to lose, Swansea and Southampton at home all spring to mind). Draws aren't enough, but we'll be sharing/taking points from those worse than us bare in mind.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 3, 2018 22:59:12 GMT
Hornby do a good range of points as do Peco. 🚂🚂
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 3, 2018 23:01:10 GMT
I am the eternal optimist, and it's an old cliché that we will stay up because of the shit below us, but I think that will be true. In bite sized chunks these are my predictions. January. Away v Man Utd...0 Home v Udders...3 Home v Watford...3 Feb Away v Bnmth...1 Home v Brighton 3 The 4 above are the 4 most crucial games Away v Leicester 0 Mar Away v Southampton...1 Home v Man City...0 Home v Everton...0 Away v Arsenal...0 Apr Home v Spurs...0 Away v West Ham..0 That would be 5 consecutive defeats.... and only 1 point from 7 games. Home v Burnley..3 Away v Liverpool..0 May Home v Palace....3 points....Hopefully Palace will be safe by then. Away v Swansea...3 Points...Hopefully Swansea will be down by then. Gonna be close.... That would probably put us top half!
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Post by Dr Hesham on Jan 3, 2018 23:24:28 GMT
So 10 points in next 5 games is a must ... It is very doable but CAN HUGHES DO THAT ?!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 23:27:56 GMT
The 6 games after Man Utd are the biggest games in this clubs history.
Get 10-18 points from those games and we stay up.
Get less than 10 and goodbye Premier League.
As much as my heart says we will get 10,11,12 points my brain says nope remember 1997.
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Post by pottarius on Jan 4, 2018 3:41:37 GMT
The 6 games after Man Utd are the biggest games in this clubs history. Get 10-18 points from those games and we stay up. Get less than 10 and goodbye Premier League. As much as my heart says we will get 10,11,12 points my brain says nope remember 1997. I think the 2 games after MUFC are the most important of those 6. Fail to get at least 4points from them and we are as good as down Defeatist it may be but the "transfer team" (ha!) should be drawing up a list of suitable players (and of course the Hughes replacement) for the fight we'd have to get out of the Championship next year. Also look to ship out the high-earners (if not by end of Jan then at least agree fees for them to move in the summer). If we fail in those two games (or indeed lose the first against Huddersfield) then get the plan rolling ahead of the inevitable
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Post by shangamuzo on Jan 4, 2018 6:33:26 GMT
The 6 games after Man Utd are the biggest games in this clubs history. Get 10-18 points from those games and we stay up. Get less than 10 and goodbye Premier League. As much as my heart says we will get 10,11,12 points my brain says nope remember 1997. I think the 2 games after MUFC are the most important of those 6. Fail to get at least 4points from them and we are as good as down Defeatist it may be but the "transfer team" (ha!) should be drawing up a list of suitable players (and of course the Hughes replacement) for the fight we'd have to get out of the Championship next year. Also look to ship out the high-earners (if not by end of Jan then at least agree fees for them to move in the summer). If we fail in those two games (or indeed lose the first against Huddersfield) then get the plan rolling ahead of the inevitable
Stoke will beat Huddersfield, I'm looking no further than that at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 6:50:12 GMT
If Hughes stays then I don't feel a massive upturn in results is likely, irrespective of who our crack "transfer team" manage to bring in, if indeed they do bring anyone in. Looking at our remaining fixtures as positively as I can I think we'll struggle to get more than 15 points absolute tops, which will leave us facing relegation.
If we do change manager NOW it would give the new manager a little more time in the transfer window and with new players and fresh ideas, better tactics and formation, more confidence, and hopefully some "new manager bounce", I think we could even get around 20-22 points, which should see us safe.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jan 4, 2018 7:28:18 GMT
It's got to the point where I don't fancy us against anyone, home or away. I don't think we will get the required points with Hughes in charge, simply because we look like conceding with virtually every attack.
How his future is still being debated is beyond me.
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Post by pottarius on Jan 4, 2018 7:34:53 GMT
It's got to the point where I don't fancy us against anyone, home or away. I don't think we will get the required points with Hughes in charge, simply because we look like conceding with virtually every attack. How his future is still being debated is beyond me. LMH future is not being debated yet supposedly The only thing being debated by the board is how best explain to the vast majority of fans that they are wrong to even consider losing LMH Likely they'll hire a Sean Spicer type PA who'll claim the news that we're in the bottom 3 as "fake news everyone, we're doing well. So well"
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 4, 2018 7:51:06 GMT
There is no point looking at the fixtures thinking about what games we have to win etc.
Two of our wins have come in the easiest home games we'll have all season.
We are a disorganised shambles and we won't beat Huddersfield...probably the most limited team I have seen at this level, but who are ultra organised and committed. Rather, huddersfield will expect to take three points from us.
Unless there are big changes, I.e a new manager is brought in, or they back hughes to the hilt and make a couple of quality signings, the situation is completely hopeless.
The writing is on the wall and has been for just under 2 years. Do the board care whether we stay in this league or not? We will see over the next couple of days but it doesn't look likely that they do.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 8:10:44 GMT
The next 9 games or so are massive. People already writing the Utd game but we’ve got go there organised and set up to get a point. Southampton did it!! The same as city at home. Palace could have won it. We’ve got stop writing these games off. It’s up to the manager to organise this shambles and get something from these game.
Do I think we can...do I bollocks with this clown. But we’ve got hope
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 8:56:07 GMT
The next 9 games or so are massive. People already writing the Utd game but we’ve got go there organised and set up to get a point. Southampton did it!! The same as city at home. Palace could have won it. We’ve got stop writing these games off. It’s up to the manager to organise this shambles and get something from these game. Do I think we can...do I bollocks with this clown. But we’ve got hope You said it twice there - organised/organise. Hughes is "clearly" incapable of organising the team, defence, midfield, or attack. We've no chance while he remains as manager.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 9:04:33 GMT
The next 9 games or so are massive. People already writing the Utd game but we’ve got go there organised and set up to get a point. Southampton did it!! The same as city at home. Palace could have won it. We’ve got stop writing these games off. It’s up to the manager to organise this shambles and get something from these game. Do I think we can...do I bollocks with this clown. But we’ve got hope You said it twice there - organised/organise. Hughes is "clearly" incapable of organising the team, defence, midfield, or attack. We've no chance while he remains as manager. That’s the big key mate, Southampton went Old Trafford and frustrated them and nearly pinched it. Burnley the same. Watch what we do!! Concede within 2 minutes then get picked off all night. Palace nearly execute the perfect game plan but again we’re not disciplined enough or have the manager with the tactical experience to do it
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 4, 2018 9:06:31 GMT
5 games can be written off. We therefore need 20 points from 11 games.
It's already a massive ask, I'm sorry to say.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Jan 4, 2018 9:13:00 GMT
On current form we've picked up 4 points in 6 games..we would have to at least double that tally to stay up.
I can't see that happening given that we are getting marginally worse each game.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jan 4, 2018 9:16:31 GMT
5 games can be written off. We therefore need 20 points from 11 games. It's already a massive ask, I'm sorry to say. Just the 2pts per game then, which if taken over a full season would give you 75+pts & a Champions League spot. We'll know our fate by the beginning of March, we've got six massive 'must win' games between now & then... All the more baffling asto why we've still not given Hughes the boot yet. Just how many more 'must win' games do we have to lose before the board pull the trigger? We're rapidly running out of 'winnable' games for any new man to save us.
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Post by metalhead on Jan 4, 2018 9:25:24 GMT
The 6 games after Man Utd are the biggest games in this clubs history. Get 10-18 points from those games and we stay up. Get less than 10 and goodbye Premier League. As much as my heart says we will get 10,11,12 points my brain says nope remember 1997. The Huddersfield and Bournemouth games are massive, and to a lesser extent the Watford game. Bournemouth are just 1 point above us, and are unlikely to stretch that significantly further. Huddersfield are 4 points above us. Those are the kind of fixtures you have to win, if you're going to stay up. If we lose either, we're probably going down. If we draw them, we could easily be going down as well. We need wins from both games.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 4, 2018 9:40:32 GMT
If the present situation continues,we will be lucky to reach 30pts.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jan 4, 2018 10:27:22 GMT
if we are not a lot better than we were against Newcastle its hard to see too many wins in these next set of crucial home games all of the opponents are at least as good if not better than Newcastle . Watford have bags of pace in attack and the other two will work and work and work to get at least a point so a major improvement is needed from somewhere
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Post by wapiti on Jan 11, 2018 19:46:20 GMT
Currently, the Mighty Potters stand on 20 points from 22 games, with 16 left to play. The Maths show them scoring 18 points from the remaining 16 games, for a season's total of 38 points.
Losses: Man U, Leicester, Man City, Everton, Arse, Spurs, Burnley, Liverpool......0 points.
Wins: Bournemouth, Southampton, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Swansea........15 points.
Draws: Huddersfield, Watford, Brighton.......3 points.
Of course, there could be a "new manager bounce" which could slightly throw off calculations, but it will be close to this prediction. The question becomes, will Stoke be able to squeak by and remain in the Prem with 38 points. Most telling is Stoke's goal difference which is the worst in the league and points to massive problems in defense and goal keeping. The new manager had better be a bloody genius. The good news is that their is some great talent in the squad......time will tell if it can be utilized.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 19:47:27 GMT
Piece of piss
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Post by samba :) on Jan 11, 2018 19:50:13 GMT
Thats survival!!
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Post by samba :) on Jan 11, 2018 19:51:02 GMT
Although your pressuming we'll win 4 away games and 1 home game
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Post by scfc75 on Jan 11, 2018 19:55:17 GMT
I'll sleep well now.
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Post by wapiti on Jan 11, 2018 19:57:37 GMT
How does a team with a potential #1 England keeper concede 47 goals in 22 games. At that rate, Stoke City has to score 2 goals in the first minute, to even have a chance at winning the game. Maybe a 5-3-2 formation.
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Post by theplantpotter on Jan 11, 2018 19:58:14 GMT
Have you had a go at the football pools, there's good money to be made.
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