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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 3, 2018 18:10:18 GMT
Hero and top player but for Christ sake man you can surely see he’s got to go😡.We all know you’re another that won’t rock the boat but FFS take a leaf out of Pejic’s book “Nows not the time to make knee jerk decisions” Shakes head in disbelief
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 3, 2018 18:14:34 GMT
I heard him on Monday after the game and he was an embarrassment to be honest. What is the value of him being on the radio?
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Jan 3, 2018 18:15:24 GMT
Hero and top player but for Christ sake man you can surely see he’s got to go😡.We all know you’re another that won’t rock the boat but FFS take a leaf out of Pejic’s book “Nows not the time to make knee jerk decisions” Shakes head in disbelief After Man City would have been knee Jerk, after West Ham it would have been sensible, after Newcastle it's imperative.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 3, 2018 18:15:51 GMT
I heard him on Monday after the game and he was an embarrassment to be honest. What is the value of him being on the radio? None whatsoever mate and just like the local media he’s frightened to death to say any other
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 3, 2018 18:16:50 GMT
What worries me is within the timeframe the board are working on, it probably does all seem a bit kneejerk.
Coates was saying on December 15th that he didn't know what the fuss about.
The level of complacency at the club is just mind blowing.
This has come as a surprise to them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 18:19:14 GMT
Hero and top player but for Christ sake man you can surely see he’s got to go😡.We all know you’re another that won’t rock the boat but FFS take a leaf out of Pejic’s book “Nows not the time to make knee jerk decisions” Shakes head in disbelief So you agree with what Pej says, and disagree with what Smithy says? I would say that Smithy talks more sense than Pej. I would compare Pej to Wilson, and Smithy to Butland/Fletcher - not as players of course, just as "givers of opinions". That's football for you, funny old game.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 18:22:23 GMT
I agree Dennis, now is not the time for knee jerk decisions
Getting rid of Hughes now isn’t really knee jerk...we knew he should have gone last summer
Perhaps you and peter have been in hibernation
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 3, 2018 18:22:58 GMT
Hero and top player but for Christ sake man you can surely see he’s got to go😡.We all know you’re another that won’t rock the boat but FFS take a leaf out of Pejic’s book “Nows not the time to make knee jerk decisions” Shakes head in disbelief So you agree with what Pej says, and disagree with what Smithy says? I would say that Smithy talks more sense than Pej. I would compare Pej to Wilson, and Smithy to Butland/Fletcher - not as players of course, just as "givers of opinions". That's football for you, funny old game. I would say you’re talking absolute bollocks as well then😄
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 3, 2018 18:24:51 GMT
Hero and top player but for Christ sake man you can surely see he’s got to go😡.We all know you’re another that won’t rock the boat but FFS take a leaf out of Pejic’s book “Nows not the time to make knee jerk decisions” Shakes head in disbelief Why does he have to give it a rest? Is he not allowed his opinion if it differs from yours? I didn't hear his thoughts beyond half time but through the first half and during the break he was very critical of our performance, especially the defending of zouma, wimmer and pieters.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 3, 2018 18:25:13 GMT
Pejic usually chats shite as well, he’s very much in ‘blind squirrel’ mode at the moment where his standard ‘pashun! work ‘aaard’ stuff is finding its target because the team actually currently is lily livered and weak as piss.
Usually it’s just xenophobic bollocks stuck in 1973.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 3, 2018 18:27:18 GMT
Hero and top player but for Christ sake man you can surely see he’s got to go😡.We all know you’re another that won’t rock the boat but FFS take a leaf out of Pejic’s book “Nows not the time to make knee jerk decisions” Shakes head in disbelief Why does he have to give it a rest? Is he not allowed his opinion if it differs from yours? I didn't hear his thoughts beyond half time but through the first half and during the break he was very critical of our performance, especially the defending of zouma, wimmer and pieters. Come on Dave to say it’s knee jerk is pathetic and you know that
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 18:28:40 GMT
So you agree with what Pej says, and disagree with what Smithy says? I would say that Smithy talks more sense than Pej. I would compare Pej to Wilson, and Smithy to Butland/Fletcher - not as players of course, just as "givers of opinions". That's football for you, funny old game. I would say you’re talking absolute bollocks as well then😄 Mine and Smithy's bollocks are of a far higher standard than your's and Pej's. So there!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 3, 2018 18:29:49 GMT
I would say you’re talking absolute bollocks as well then😄 Mine and Smithy's bollocks are of a far higher standard than your's and Pej's. So there! So you also think getting rid of Hughes would be knee jerk?😄😄
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 18:32:03 GMT
Mine and Smithy's bollocks are of a far higher standard than your's and Pej's. So there! So you also think getting rid of Hughes would be knee jerk?😄😄 No, I just said that the bollocks that Smithy and myself spout, are better bollocks than the ones you and Pej spout.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 3, 2018 18:32:51 GMT
So you also think getting rid of Hughes would be knee jerk?😄😄 No, I just said that the bollocks that Smithy and myself spout, are better bollocks than the ones you and Pej spout. Ok mate we’ll leave it there🙄
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 18:33:36 GMT
No, I just said that the bollocks that Smithy and myself spout, are better bollocks than the ones you and Pej spout. Ok mate we’ll leave it there🙄
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 3, 2018 18:36:48 GMT
But Pejic is always spot on...
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 3, 2018 18:37:41 GMT
Can I just say that as a pedant I'm itching to intervene.
It's Denis.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 3, 2018 18:42:34 GMT
Why does he have to give it a rest? Is he not allowed his opinion if it differs from yours? I didn't hear his thoughts beyond half time but through the first half and during the break he was very critical of our performance, especially the defending of zouma, wimmer and pieters. Come on Dave to say it’s knee jerk is pathetic and you know that I've not really seen his comments but whatever they are surely he's entitled to his opinion? He doesn't have to give it a rest just because we might not like it. Plus if he believed coates comments on 15th December then surely ti have changed now is a little "knee jerk" In terms of a reaction.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Jan 3, 2018 18:43:47 GMT
What worries me is within the timeframe the board are working on, it probably does all seem a bit kneejerk. Coates was saying on December 15th that he didn't know what the fuss about. The level of complacency at the club is just mind blowing. This has come as a surprise to them. Spot on. Many of us were fully behind Hughes at the start of the season, but also fully aware that there were some major issues that needed to be addressed. Despite a relatively decent start against tough opposition, the challenges were never really addressed and it’s been clear since mid-October that the decline has escalated. If the leadership of the club are only now seeing that there are some major problems, it’s just negligence of the highest order and indicates that we truly are about to fall head-first into the pool of shit that we’ve been treading through for months.
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Post by geoff321 on Jan 3, 2018 18:50:47 GMT
If Hughes is sacked it could be argued that it would be a knee jerk reaction, after all the club is currently just five points behind Watford who are tenth.
When Hughes was appointed he was expected to deliver top ten finishes, so far he has deivered that in three seasons out of four, it is still possible that he could make that four out of five.
In view of the lack of a quality replacement this is a real dilemma for Peter Coates.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 3, 2018 18:50:48 GMT
Come on Dave to say it’s knee jerk is pathetic and you know that I've not really seen his comments but whatever they are surely he's entitled to his opinion? He doesn't have to give it a rest just because we might not like it. Plus if he believed coates comments on 15th December then surely ti have changed now is a little "knee jerk" In terms of a reaction. Ok Mr D.Advocate of Burnley
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Post by superheroantonius on Jan 3, 2018 18:52:09 GMT
Interesting that his opinion has changed since He stopped playing and He is literally just given an opinion
If kevin wimmer had come into the stoke team when dennis was captain, there is no way He would have been happy with him playing in kevin wimmer 2017 / 2018 mode, in the way He has played since his arrival
He would have said, you are not playing like that next to me kevin, or words to that affect
I doubt He would have told shaq, He was happy with his endevour on saturday, If He had played like that in his team too
Lets be kind shall we, and say He seems to have mellowed a bit since retiring from the game
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Post by ParaPsych on Jan 3, 2018 18:54:40 GMT
Dennis was getting stick a couple of years ago for being too negative just because he wasn't quite creaming his pants like some on here were when we were in good form.
He can't win.
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Post by kustokie on Jan 3, 2018 18:57:46 GMT
If Hughes is sacked it could be argued that it would be a knee jerk reaction, after all the club is currently just five points behind Watford who are tenth. When Hughes was appointed he was expected to deliver top ten finishes, so far he has deivered that in three seasons out of four, it is still possible that he could make that four out of five. In view of the lack of a quality replacement this is a real dilemma for Peter Coates. Two old adages come to mind: “he who hesitates is lost” or “marry in haste repent at leisure”.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 3, 2018 19:00:54 GMT
I've not really seen his comments but whatever they are surely he's entitled to his opinion? He doesn't have to give it a rest just because we might not like it. Plus if he believed coates comments on 15th December then surely ti have changed now is a little "knee jerk" In terms of a reaction. Ok Mr D.Advocate of Burnley I'm not "of Burnley".
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Post by kustokie on Jan 3, 2018 19:02:17 GMT
In addition to the lack of obvious replacements, you have to wonder who would fancy six months trying to fix something that irreparably broke and will take 5 years to rebuild? Other than the money, but we don’t seem willing to pay up. Swansea have already resigned themselves to being relegated by hiring a mid-level Championship coach. The same is true for WBA who have hired a manager that has only won six games since January 2016! So we seem to be hoping against hope that Hughes will bring this around and fire him in the Summer if doesn’t work out.
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Post by maliciousdamage on Jan 3, 2018 19:05:52 GMT
He's really annoying me he alluded post match Saturday it was time four change as it was obvious from the players on the pitch and the performance things aren't right yet yesterday on Midlands today he says no no don't make a change. I can't for the life of me understand what he and the board are watching and why they can't admit 25k people from the last game of last season to Saturday are wrong and a few ex players and the board are right!!!
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Post by beerspiller on Jan 3, 2018 19:26:03 GMT
Hero and top player but for Christ sake man you can surely see he’s got to go😡.We all know you’re another that won’t rock the boat but FFS take a leaf out of Pejic’s book “Nows not the time to make knee jerk decisions” Shakes head in disbelief
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Post by beerspiller on Jan 3, 2018 19:32:16 GMT
Hero and top player but for Christ sake man you can surely see he’s got to go😡.We all know you’re another that won’t rock the boat but FFS take a leaf out of Pejic’s book “Nows not the time to make knee jerk decisions” Shakes head in disbelief If you are to criticise a man who has been in football all his life, is SCFC till he dies, broke most of his bones for his team and suffers now from this....at least get his name right !! It is Denis not Dennis!! Ex players like Denis who are still in the game in more ways than you know, have an insight to know what goes on behind the scenes and will still be watching Stoke after premiership butterflies stop attending! He is entitled to his opinion and I trust his far more than the keyboard jockeys on this site! I shake my head back at you!😤
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