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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jan 3, 2018 13:45:38 GMT
at this point i'd take them above Hughes, tbh i'd probably anyone over hughes.
But it would be an average appointment, one that suggests the board is clueless.
They did an average job with Ireland imo.
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Post by mickmacc on Jan 3, 2018 13:48:26 GMT
Can you imagine Keane's approach to the likes of Shaqiri ,Chopu Moting ,Berahino etc when they don't fancy it?
Whilst I'd love to see it -it would be a surefire way to make sure they didnt try at all.
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Post by harrysburrow on Jan 3, 2018 13:50:24 GMT
Have we really now entered some other dimension where there isn't a single other decent manager on the planet now available?
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Post by estp1863 on Jan 3, 2018 14:05:05 GMT
Can you imagine Keane's approach to the likes of Shaqiri ,Chopu Moting ,Berahino etc when they don't fancy it? Whilst I'd love to see it -it would be a surefire way to make sure they didnt try at all. Yes I can. "Pack your bags lads and go rob a wage elsewhere" How refreshing
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Post by thegift on Jan 3, 2018 14:05:42 GMT
We need someone with attitude similar to Roy keane. That's a fact I'm afraid. Put or 100% effort in or F*CK OFF. Too many nancies in our team
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Post by estp1863 on Jan 3, 2018 14:07:17 GMT
Really? Point out the faults in it? They are facts, from league finishes to cup finals & European football. Don't see many villa fans rewriting history on there do you? Fuck it let's stick with lacklustre les as our fans are as indecisive as our board 😑🔫 I'm not suggesting the actual stats are incorrect but it doesn't tell you the whole truth does it? If you wrote a summary of Pulis time at stoke it would be similarly decent reading based on league finishes and cup runs and many would question why we got rid of him. Wiki suggests nothing around style of play, relationships with players, fans, staff, transfer business etc. You can't just put league finishes down on a piece of paper and say he'd be great based on 10% of the detail. And I'm pro MON by the way he's one of the only names I think wouldn't be too bad. I'm just not sure why a stoke fan would question a villa fan on the finer details when he obviously knows more about it than you do having been at those games and a supporter of that club it's bizarre behaviour. Speak to two different stoke fans about pulis and you will likely get two different viewpoints.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 14:27:26 GMT
Can you imagine Keane's approach to the likes of Shaqiri ,Chopu Moting ,Berahino etc when they don't fancy it? Whilst I'd love to see it -it would be a surefire way to make sure they didnt try at all. Yes I can. "Pack your bags lads and go rob a wage elsewhere" How refreshing They have contracts (large ones as well) that we have to honour so no way will they be packing their bags unless they want go whatever Roy Keane says or does. I also don't want an utter scumbag who was glad Clive Clark had a heart attack anywhere near my club.
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Post by FrankButcher on Jan 3, 2018 14:33:30 GMT
We need someone with attitude similar to Roy keane. That's a fact I'm afraid. Put or 100% effort in or F*CK OFF. Too many nancies in our team I heard an interview with geoff cameron and the way the way he was speaking about the manager and training and the atmosphere came across as if they had it too easy, we need a someone like roy keane to make sure they dont have it easy and make them work 100% as a minimum.
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Post by thegift on Jan 3, 2018 14:34:27 GMT
We need someone with attitude similar to Roy keane. That's a fact I'm afraid. Put or 100% effort in or F*CK OFF. Too many nancies in our team I heard an interview with geoff cameron and the way the way he was speaking about the manager and training and the atmosphere came across as if they had it too easy, we need a someone like roy keane to make sure they dont have it easy and make them work 100% as a minimum. This is why i wanted allardyce, warnock, pulis etc
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Post by estp1863 on Jan 3, 2018 14:37:56 GMT
Yes I can. "Pack your bags lads and go rob a wage elsewhere" How refreshing They have contracts (large ones as well) that we have to honour so no way will they be packing their bags unless they want go whatever Roy Keane says or does. I also don't want an utter scumbag who was glad Clive Clark had a heart attack anywhere near my club. That's very noble of you, let's stick with Hughes and his half hearted approach. Let's bow to players on large contracts because they might not like it any other way. Who is your option?
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Post by estp1863 on Jan 3, 2018 14:41:19 GMT
I'm not suggesting the actual stats are incorrect but it doesn't tell you the whole truth does it? If you wrote a summary of Pulis time at stoke it would be similarly decent reading based on league finishes and cup runs and many would question why we got rid of him. Wiki suggests nothing around style of play, relationships with players, fans, staff, transfer business etc. You can't just put league finishes down on a piece of paper and say he'd be great based on 10% of the detail. And I'm pro MON by the way he's one of the only names I think wouldn't be too bad. I'm just not sure why a stoke fan would question a villa fan on the finer details when he obviously knows more about it than you do having been at those games and a supporter of that club it's bizarre behaviour. Very bizarre It's all right sitting there and saying very bizarre when your lot snuffed it "after" he left. You want to try Mark Hughes on for size. Out of interest if you were the stoke board who would you opt for?
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jan 3, 2018 14:45:31 GMT
O'Neil has a decent record. I'd have him here in a heart beat.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Jan 3, 2018 14:46:03 GMT
They have contracts (large ones as well) that we have to honour so no way will they be packing their bags unless they want go whatever Roy Keane says or does. I also don't want an utter scumbag who was glad Clive Clark had a heart attack anywhere near my club. That's very noble of you, let's stick with Hughes and his half hearted approach. Let's bow to players on large contracts because they might not like it any other way. Who is your option? Who said anything about bowing to players on large contracts? He simply explained to you how a contract works i.e. you can't just fuck someone off out the club as and when you feel like it. It doesn't work like that i'm afraid He also never said to stick with Hughes did he? You've just got a cob on because people disagree with you on O'Neill and are throwing your toys out the pram accordingly at anyone within range....whilst the rest are actually looking at how things work in the real world, rather than your fantasy land where you can just tell players to steal a living elsewhere and be rid of them. Everyone's pissed off and frustrated but you need to calm down fella. It isn't other fellow fans faults we're in this predicament, and it also isn't their fault that they know what contracts actually mean and how football works whilst you clearly don't.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 14:51:06 GMT
They have contracts (large ones as well) that we have to honour so no way will they be packing their bags unless they want go whatever Roy Keane says or does. I also don't want an utter scumbag who was glad Clive Clark had a heart attack anywhere near my club. That's very noble of you, let's stick with Hughes and his half hearted approach. Let's bow to players on large contracts because they might not like it any other way. Who is your option? Where have a said I want Hughes to stay? He should have gone at the end of last season. There is more to man management than shouting at people to get the best out of them. As for a replacement I would rather have Rowett, Johnson or Jokanovic than Martin O'Neill.
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Post by TexasPotter on Jan 3, 2018 14:54:35 GMT
Meh, couldn’t be any worse than the arrogant prick we have now. O'Neill is a decent manager with a good eye on talent and at least Kane is a battler and not a yes man, something lacking from Bowen.
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Post by estp1863 on Jan 3, 2018 14:56:14 GMT
That's very noble of you, let's stick with Hughes and his half hearted approach. Let's bow to players on large contracts because they might not like it any other way. Who is your option? Where have a said I want Hughes to stay? He should have gone at the end of last season. There is more to man management than shouting at people to get the best out of them. As for a replacement I would rather have Rowett, Johnson or Jokanovic than Martin O'Neill. Keane would give bollockings as and when it's needed. Sometimes the truth especially from someone who has won it all is what players need to hear not wrapping them up in cotton wool & hoping they can be arsed come saturday. Johnson? Who is he?
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Post by staffsvilla on Jan 3, 2018 14:57:11 GMT
Very bizarre It's all right sitting there and saying very bizarre when your lot snuffed it "after" he left. You want to try Mark Hughes on for size. Out of interest if you were the stoke board who would you opt for? I'd try for GR but I doubt he'd come, another good coach(which you need) Dean Smith at Brentford although I'd like to see him replace Bruce if I'm honest and a bloke who's a decent manager but got shafted Warbutton ex forest, all good coaches all play attractive football and if the unthinkable happens have got Championship experience. The way you are at the minute I reckon that's the kind of manager you need to look at, the likes of koeman and co won't want a potential relegation on their cv's
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Post by FrankButcher on Jan 3, 2018 14:58:15 GMT
I heard an interview with geoff cameron and the way the way he was speaking about the manager and training and the atmosphere came across as if they had it too easy, we need a someone like roy keane to make sure they dont have it easy and make them work 100% as a minimum. This is why i wanted allardyce, warnock, pulis etc I was all for Allardyce when he was available, i had seen enough after we lost to Bournemouth this season and knew then we should of gotten Allardyce even before Everton approached him we should of pounced on Evertons hesitation when big sam distanced himself from the job the first time but our incompetent board did nothing but bury there heads in the sands and are now paying for it. The ultimate price they will pay will be relegation which looks a real possibility now and then the season ticket sales would drop and then theres the hang over of relegation to get over! Maybe we should of gotten TP back just until May alot of fans wouldn't of liked that but he would of installed a siege mentality and would have them throwing there bodies on the line unlike the current shit there serving up!
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Post by rdf10 on Jan 3, 2018 14:58:57 GMT
Shuddered at the thought of these two a few months ago but I’d rather have the Chuckle brothers in charge over Hughes now
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 15:08:07 GMT
Where have a said I want Hughes to stay? He should have gone at the end of last season. There is more to man management than shouting at people to get the best out of them. As for a replacement I would rather have Rowett, Johnson or Jokanovic than Martin O'Neill. Keane would give bollockings as and when it's needed. Sometimes the truth especially from someone who has won it all is what players need to hear not wrapping them up in cotton wool & hoping they can be arsed come saturday. Johnson? Who is he? Johnson is Bristol City manager. It did Ipswich the world of good listening to Keane spontaneously combust.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 3, 2018 15:08:54 GMT
Where have a said I want Hughes to stay? He should have gone at the end of last season. There is more to man management than shouting at people to get the best out of them. As for a replacement I would rather have Rowett, Johnson or Jokanovic than Martin O'Neill. Keane would give bollockings as and when it's needed. Sometimes the truth especially from someone who has won it all is what players need to hear not wrapping them up in cotton wool & hoping they can be arsed come saturday. Johnson? Who is he? Again, how has that manifested itself in his coaching career to date? Don’t tell me, nothing that went wrong was remotely his fault...
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Post by estp1863 on Jan 3, 2018 15:15:12 GMT
Keane would give bollockings as and when it's needed. Sometimes the truth especially from someone who has won it all is what players need to hear not wrapping them up in cotton wool & hoping they can be arsed come saturday. Johnson? Who is he? Johnson is Bristol City manager. It did Ipswich the world of good listening to Keane spontaneously combust. So when Johnson is telling Shaqiri He's shit He's not going to think, hang on wtf have you ever won? Winners take criticism on board, they are their own worst critics. If we have a bunch of underperforming players who can't accept criticism & let it motivate them then we must have a group with the wrong mentality.
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Post by thegift on Jan 3, 2018 15:48:06 GMT
I'd take roy keane in a million years.
Although with the amount of players that are either under performing or cant be arsed we wouldn't have 11 players to field.
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 3, 2018 16:06:44 GMT
O'Neil has a decent record. I'd have him here in a heart beat. Is that the former Sunderland manager if so pass me the brandy
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 3, 2018 16:09:07 GMT
Where have a said I want Hughes to stay? He should have gone at the end of last season. There is more to man management than shouting at people to get the best out of them. As for a replacement I would rather have Rowett, Johnson or Jokanovic than Martin O'Neill. Keane would give bollockings as and when it's needed. Sometimes the truth especially from someone who has won it all is what players need to hear not wrapping them up in cotton wool & hoping they can be arsed come saturday. Johnson? Who is he? Give bollockings to players on 50-70 grand a week they would laugh in his face , that’s why he’s shit as a manager
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Post by estp1863 on Jan 3, 2018 16:11:52 GMT
Keane would give bollockings as and when it's needed. Sometimes the truth especially from someone who has won it all is what players need to hear not wrapping them up in cotton wool & hoping they can be arsed come saturday. Johnson? Who is he? Give bollockings to players on 50-70 grand a week they would laugh in his face , that’s why he’s shit as a manager tbh mate I'm done trying to promote a realistic change now. I'm sure o Neil & keane can offer more than shouting but others think otherwise. I'm just gonna sit back and see what the club's answer is well we're taking regular shaftings. If we're going to make a change it needs to be before we get cut adrift.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 3, 2018 16:15:38 GMT
It's all right sitting there and saying very bizarre when your lot snuffed it "after" he left. You want to try Mark Hughes on for size. Out of interest if you were the stoke board who would you opt for? I'd try for GR but I doubt he'd come, another good coach(which you need) Dean Smith at Brentford although I'd like to see him replace Bruce if I'm honest and a bloke who's a decent manager but got shafted Warbutton ex forest, all good coaches all play attractive football and if the unthinkable happens have got Championship experience. The way you are at the minute I reckon that's the kind of manager you need to look at, the likes of koeman and co won't want a potential relegation on their cv's Warburton is about the best shout I've seen. Maybe distance from the issue brings a bit of clarity. He's got his boys Weir and McParland too.
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Post by westgatelakes on Jan 3, 2018 16:23:27 GMT
until last night Brentford had scored 2 goals or more over the past 6 games so Dean Smith must be doing something right
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jan 3, 2018 16:38:31 GMT
O'Neil has a decent record. I'd have him here in a heart beat. Is that the former Sunderland manager if so pass me the brandy Almost got Villa into the Champions League.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 16:42:03 GMT
This thread is a waist of time. As much as I think we need change it ain't happening. The pressure is just going to build and build making it harder for the team to perform. The board will stick with Hughes. 😔😔
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