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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 2, 2018 14:54:35 GMT
After we rested half the team last Saturday😡
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Post by stokie23 on Jan 2, 2018 15:18:18 GMT
Unbelievable
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Post by agingerstokie on Jan 2, 2018 15:20:00 GMT
Lazy, can't be bothered, no guts, no fight but they're all backing Hughes. Don't have to do much do ya, a new manager might demand more no can't have that
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Post by nickhfc on Jan 2, 2018 15:20:27 GMT
It's why we are 16th
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Post by Gods on Jan 2, 2018 15:23:34 GMT
Be interesting to compare that with the stats for us and Chelsea in the previous match if anyone has them?
I want to get wound up about it but honestly there is only about 10% between all the teams and for example only 2% between us and Man United who did a real job on Everton yesterday.
I'm not sure what it really means. Are we consistently at the bottom end of this table or was this a one-off? I'd be concerned if that were the case.
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Post by agingerstokie on Jan 2, 2018 15:24:57 GMT
Be interesting to compare that with the stats for us and Chelsea in the previous match if anyone has them? I want to get wound up about it but honestly there is only about 10% between all the teams and only 2% between us and Man United who did a real job on Everton yesterday. I'm not sure what it really means. Are we consistently at the bottom end of this table or was this a one-off? I'd be concerned if that were the case. I've seen this stat before this season about us being the least |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jan 2, 2018 15:26:59 GMT
That statistic in isolation doesn't mean a lot and wouldn't be even a topic for discussion if we'd won.
Certain players that have left were criticised for being hardworking and doing lots of running.
The statistic coupled with our lack of craft and guile and a wholesale lack of tactical nous has relegation written all over it
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Post by andystokey on Jan 2, 2018 15:31:40 GMT
After we rested half the team last Saturday😡 To put that into perspective that's 2k or 100m per player less than Leicester and ManU who both won. Easily taken up by celebrating their goals I imagine. This fixation with stats in football is mad only one counts, the final score. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 2, 2018 15:33:48 GMT
After we rested half the team last Saturday😡 To put that into perspective that's 2k or 100m per player less than Leicester and ManU who both won. Easily taken up by celebrating their goals I imagine. This fixation with stats in football is mad only one counts, the final score. Totally Disagree we are a bunch of plodders who are not fit enough and week after week we’re in bottom of these stats win,lose or draw |
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Post by xchpotter on Jan 2, 2018 15:36:20 GMT
We do seem to meander about the pitch with little sprinting or jostling whether we have the ball or not......as mentioned, lazy and I'll disciplined players.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 2, 2018 15:48:51 GMT
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 2, 2018 15:48:59 GMT
Out of that 108.4,107.8 of that was running round like headless chickens.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Jan 2, 2018 15:53:03 GMT
yet apparently, the players are still playing for him. you could have fooled me.
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Post by nutterpotter on Jan 2, 2018 15:54:31 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 2, 2018 15:56:45 GMT
Self-sufficiency rules ok! |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 2, 2018 15:57:23 GMT
Our aversion to pressing is mystifying. Anyone who’s any good does it and we go out of our way not to.
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Post by roylandstoke on Jan 2, 2018 16:04:10 GMT
For anyone who watches us play regularly, a stat showing that we cover less ground than anyone else should not be a surprise.
As well as looking totally disorganised, we also look totally unfit, compared to our opponents.
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Post by armitagestokie on Jan 2, 2018 16:10:34 GMT
Why can't we have a more forthright boss? Hughes is like a 'wet fart' no passion himself, anger is confined to gestures or pulling faces!! Other managers would pull players in for extra training, esp fitness what do we do community visits????
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Post by Block 22 on Jan 2, 2018 16:13:40 GMT
This is the kinda stuff I hope the board are looking at!! |
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Post by nott1 on Jan 2, 2018 16:16:06 GMT
We let the ball do the work obviously!
We are top of the league at it!
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Post by superheroantonius on Jan 2, 2018 16:16:53 GMT
Our aversion to pressing is mystifying. Anyone who’s any good does it and we go out of our way not to. Playing at a level, where every team is stuffed full of players who can hurt you, if you give them time and space on the ball, its a bizarre strategy I am going to stick my neck out on this one, and say its not going to catch on |
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Post by wozzerthepotter on Jan 2, 2018 16:18:14 GMT
I don't think the stats include all the metres that Shaq walked!
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Post by towraytek on Jan 2, 2018 16:19:54 GMT
If your one-trick pony is: Butland > Wimmer > Zouma > Adam > hoof it up to Crouch, there is not a lot of running involved.
Ek
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Post by eddyclamp on Jan 2, 2018 16:21:30 GMT
After we rested half the team last Saturday😡 That`s not too bad actually , how far do you expect tortoises to travel over 90 minutes? |
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Post by stonestokie76 on Jan 2, 2018 16:29:02 GMT
Shows what we can all see in the ground, no one is making runs or getting ahead of the ball!, way too static!
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Jan 2, 2018 20:08:36 GMT
Be interesting to compare that with the stats for us and Chelsea in the previous match if anyone has them? I want to get wound up about it but honestly there is only about 10% between all the teams and for example only 2% between us and Man United who did a real job on Everton yesterday. I'm not sure what it really means. Are we consistently at the bottom end of this table or was this a one-off? I'd be concerned if that were the case. I think you are right, Godfrey. Without running any statistical tests ( your dad could no doubt have done that easily for us  ) I'm not sure that the difference between us and most of the other teams is statistically significant, and even if it is, I think it can be wrongly or over-interpreted in footballing terms. |
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Post by roylandstoke on Jan 2, 2018 20:11:32 GMT
Just had another look at those stats.
Liverpool players apparently ran about a mile more than ours.
If you take Joe Allen out its probably more like 2 miles.
Earlier I said no one should be surprised by this and I stand by that, but buggar me we are one lazy, unfit team.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 2, 2018 20:13:19 GMT
After we rested half the team last Saturday😡 Swap Shaqiri for Ramadan in the starting line up and shoot up the table. Wonder where we'd be if you gave one player In every team Shaqiri's running stats? |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 2, 2018 20:32:42 GMT
Our aversion to pressing is mystifying. Anyone who’s any good does it and we go out of our way not to. Some do a high press, some do a full press or a half press. What we do is more like a printing press. |
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Post by mattface on Jan 2, 2018 20:34:48 GMT
Our aversion to pressing is mystifying. Anyone who’s any good does it and we go out of our way not to. It is given both goals against Swansea came from us pressing in their half |
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