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Post by crownmeking on Jan 3, 2018 21:14:21 GMT
I wonder if they think saying nothing is as good as backing him publicly? I mean he hasn't he fired, so silence just means business as usual, and hope it all blows over? That would be the usual way of dealing with a situation like this. I think that sometimes SCFC think that if they respond to a situation once, it will become expected that they always will be expected to respond. So keep silent. One thing we know for sure, is Hughes has not been fired, because that would have been announced for sure. If Hughes has not been fired, there is only one other option - He is the manager and the board have backed him... For now.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 3, 2018 21:16:03 GMT
I really can't see that happening, my take on it is the decision has been made but they'll let him get on with the Coventry game as it's too late to do anything else but they'll be recruiting a new manager in the background to take over next week. Oh absolutely. I was agreeing with Glasgow's point that the only reason they haven't sacked him yet is in case that plan falls through, they will still then have Hughes to carry on if need be. If the plan falls through I can't see them keeping him either as like you said they wouldn't back him in the market and they are fully aware they have to bring in players so either way he'll be gone.
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Post by harrysburrow on Jan 3, 2018 21:30:06 GMT
Given up trying to figure it all out. At the end of the day, it's all in the hands of owners who are looking to be self-sufficient - we finished the last window in the black for fuck's sake? Sparky is one of the lowest paid managers in the Prem who has already wasted shit loads of money and would cost a seven figure sum to get rid of? We now have a squad of 25 players, most of which are inexperienced, injured or past it. Things have been left to deteriorate for so long now that there are either no decent, available managers around and/or nobody wants to come? Somebody please explain to me how this shit tip can possibly be sorted out?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 21:35:45 GMT
Given up trying to figure it all out. At the end of the day, it's all in the hands of owners who are looking to be self-sufficient - we finished the last window in the black for fuck's sake? Sparky is one of the lowest paid managers in the Prem who has already wasted shit loads of money and would cost a seven figure sum to get rid of? We now have a squad of 25 players, most of which are inexperienced, injured or past it. Things have been left to deteriorate for so long now that there are either no decent, available managers around and/or nobody wants to come? Somebody please explain to me how this shit tip can possibly be sorted out? Sack the personnel responsible for transfers.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 3, 2018 21:43:39 GMT
That would be the usual way of dealing with a situation like this. I think that sometimes SCFC think that if they respond to a situation once, it will become expected that they always will be expected to respond. So keep silent. One thing we know for sure, is Hughes has not been fired, because that would have been announced for sure. If Hughes has not been fired, there is only one other option - He is the manager and the board have backed him... For now.
Yeah I think that's pretty much it, apart from the six words I've put a line through.
They haven't backed him or sacked him.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 3, 2018 21:46:38 GMT
That would be the usual way of dealing with a situation like this. I think that sometimes SCFC think that if they respond to a situation once, it will become expected that they always will be expected to respond. So keep silent. One thing we know for sure, is Hughes has not been fired, because that would have been announced for sure. If Hughes has not been fired, there is only one other option - He is the manager and the board have backed him... For now. You sounds like you’re willing that on mate🤔
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Post by jeycov on Jan 3, 2018 21:49:01 GMT
That would be the usual way of dealing with a situation like this. I think that sometimes SCFC think that if they respond to a situation once, it will become expected that they always will be expected to respond. So keep silent. One thing we know for sure, is Hughes has not been fired, because that would have been announced for sure. If Hughes has not been fired, there is only one other option - He is the manager and the board have backed him... For now. Hope he takes the press conference instead of Bowen Hope he says that his team and the players are continuing to try and reverse this downward spiral , I cannot believe that they want us to fail It’s a very challenging time and of course he feels the enormous pressure on him as the manager while he remains at the club he will continue to give 100% and the players who are involved on Saturday will be giving 100% too
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 3, 2018 21:50:05 GMT
Given up trying to figure it all out. At the end of the day, it's all in the hands of owners who are looking to be self-sufficient - we finished the last window in the black for fuck's sake? Sparky is one of the lowest paid managers in the Prem who has already wasted shit loads of money and would cost a seven figure sum to get rid of? We now have a squad of 25 players, most of which are inexperienced, injured or past it. Things have been left to deteriorate for so long now that there are either no decent, available managers around and/or nobody wants to come? Somebody please explain to me how this shit tip can possibly be sorted out? Sack the personnel responsible for transfers. Including Hughes ?
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 3, 2018 21:54:58 GMT
One thing we know for sure, is Hughes has not been fired, because that would have been announced for sure. If Hughes has not been fired, there is only one other option - He is the manager and the board have backed him... For now. Hope he takes the press conference instead of Bowen Hope he says that his team and the players are continuing to try and reverse this downward spiral , I cannot believe that they want us to fail It’s a very challenging time and of course he feels the enormous pressure on him as the manager while he remains at the club he will continue to give 100% and the players who are involved on Saturday will be giving 100% too They have not been giving 100% for a while now neither has he either that or he is even more incompetent than I thought which would be difficult, if he had any chance of turning this shit storm around we would have seen some sort of reaction clearly on Monday, instead we got more same old same old huffing and puffing with the usual pre and post match deluded bullshit.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 21:58:47 GMT
Sack the personnel responsible for transfers. Including Hughes ? Quite probably, but not necessarily.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 3, 2018 22:02:47 GMT
Quite probably, but not necessarily. Clearly
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Post by crownmeking on Jan 3, 2018 22:11:28 GMT
One thing we know for sure, is Hughes has not been fired, because that would have been announced for sure. If Hughes has not been fired, there is only one other option - He is the manager and the board have backed him... For now. You sounds like you’re willing that on mate🤔 Nice come back sir!
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Post by nutterpotter on Jan 3, 2018 22:15:33 GMT
Nothing really new
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 22:18:13 GMT
Quite probably, but not necessarily. Clearly
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Post by crownmeking on Jan 3, 2018 22:20:05 GMT
One thing we know for sure, is Hughes has not been fired, because that would have been announced for sure. If Hughes has not been fired, there is only one other option - He is the manager and the board have backed him... For now.
Yeah I think that's pretty much it, apart from the six words I've put a line through.
They haven't backed him or sacked him.
It is an odd situation, but as always, we are trying to figure out what is going on internally with very limited information. One thing that is for sure, you don't create and run a business like BET365 without having some damn good strategic and operational people at the highest level. I do not subscribe to the opinion on here that Peter or the rest of the board are deluded, stupid or senile. They are highly successful business people, and will have a plan in place - They just haven't chosen to share it with us, yet.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 3, 2018 22:25:13 GMT
Yeah I think that's pretty much it, apart from the six words I've put a line through.
They haven't backed him or sacked him.
It is an odd situation, but as always, we are trying to figure out what is going on internally with very limited information. One thing that is for sure, you don't create and run a business like BET365 without having some damn good strategic and operational people at the highest level. I do not subscribe to the opinion on here that Peter or the rest of the board are deluded, stupid or senile. They are highly successful business people, and will have a plan in place - They just haven't chosen to share it with us, yet. Precisely
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 3, 2018 22:40:04 GMT
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Post by BuzzB on Jan 3, 2018 22:42:56 GMT
For the first time in his role here, he is actually starting to show the strain. He is normally so unflappable and composed. I think he and those above have been so blase about our position, believing the famous "we are better in the second half of the season" that reality is actually dawning, and its hit like the Titanic hitting the iceberg! Looks from the outside as if Coates is sticking for now, we need something sorting one way or the other pretty bloody sharpish, personally I think its too late. The squad as it stands will not pick up 18 points.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 3, 2018 22:45:05 GMT
When’s the press conference tomorrow FM?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 3, 2018 22:45:43 GMT
When’s the press conference tomorrow FM? 14.30 according to the Sentinel, CP
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Post by Olgrligm on Jan 3, 2018 22:49:35 GMT
When’s the press conference tomorrow FM? 14.30 according to the Sentinel, CP We could be in for a George Burley type farce, then? The club can send out a cleaner to tell the press "nope, no press conference today, we've got no manager".
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 3, 2018 22:50:00 GMT
When’s the press conference tomorrow FM? 14.30 according to the Sentinel, CP Meeting in the morning then he might not make the press conference in the afternoon 🤞
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 22:50:43 GMT
Yeah I think that's pretty much it, apart from the six words I've put a line through.
They haven't backed him or sacked him.
It is an odd situation, but as always, we are trying to figure out what is going on internally with very limited information. One thing that is for sure, you don't create and run a business like BET365 without having some damn good strategic and operational people at the highest level. I do not subscribe to the opinion on here that Peter or the rest of the board are deluded, stupid or senile. They are highly successful business people, and will have a plan in place - They just haven't chosen to share it with us, yet. I'm with you mate. The thing is, starting and running a big and successful company depends upon having a profitable idea to start with, and then developing that project correctly, and then employing top managers to run the company, whilst still keeping overall control..... Even a betting company runs the same way - there is no gamble at all involved. Obviously an extremely brief overview. I think that a football club is different. With their "sustainability" project I suspect that these financial moguls may have underestimated the challenge. They may have got their financial models wrong. Where did it go wrong? Obviously Hughes is the fall guy - it's all his fault. Is it? I suspect that Hughes isn't the reason for the apparent failure. Take a look at the company policy of acquiring assets (players) and how they are assessed and purchased.
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Post by gingerninja on Jan 3, 2018 22:58:40 GMT
If he's not meeting board until 2 Moro, what have the board been doing at the meetings Dave Views alluded to yesterday and today?
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Post by Davef on Jan 3, 2018 23:00:42 GMT
If he's not meeting board until 2 Moro, what have the board been doing at the meetings Dave Views alluded to yesterday and today? Discussing exactly what they'll be asking the manager at the meeting tomorrow?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 23:00:56 GMT
If he's not meeting board until 2 Moro, what have the board been doing at the meetings Dave Views alluded to yesterday and today? Why not ask DaveViews?
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Post by Fred Ferret on Jan 4, 2018 8:55:06 GMT
Indeed. But can they let him walk into that press conference tomorrow and still be only offering total silence? It'll be like throwing a child to the lions. Enter Mark Bowen: "The gaffer has caught a cold"! I see that Spinks is floating the idea that Bowen might cover the press conference - whilst Hughes attends his job interview and 4 days late transfer window strategic planning showdown meeting!,,
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Post by wagsastokie on Jan 4, 2018 9:01:40 GMT
Having given it a great amount of thought unless the club is prepared to to sped upwards of 50 million
Hughes should remain we're going down without the spending Why should the inept twat walk away with his reputation for not being relegated He should be busting a gut to get us out of it if he can't He should do a capt smith and go down with the ship
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Post by thegift on Jan 4, 2018 9:02:36 GMT
Having given it a great amount of thought unless the club is prepared to to sped upwards of 50 million Hughes should remain we're going down without the spending Why should the inept twat walk away with his reputation for not being relegated He should be busting a gut to get us out of it if he can't He should do a capt smith and go down with the ship Surely you want us to get out of it???? Whilst i understand your point, stoke is more important than Mark Hughes and his record
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Post by wagsastokie on Jan 4, 2018 9:06:22 GMT
Having given it a great amount of thought unless the club is prepared to to sped upwards of 50 million Hughes should remain we're going down without the spending Why should the inept twat walk away with his reputation for not being relegated He should be busting a gut to get us out of it if he can't He should do a capt smith and go down with the ship Surely you want us to get out of it???? Whilst i understand your point, stoke is more important than Mark Hughes and his record Without the spending I seriously can not see us surviving are current squad is bottom three
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