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Post by harrysburrow on Dec 25, 2017 16:57:30 GMT
Airport parking, Wembley and the works of Van Gogh are bargains when you look at Wimmer's price. Class! 😂😂😂😂
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Dec 25, 2017 16:59:52 GMT
Why are Celtic selling him? And for only £18m? Rogers is under pressure. He wants a turnover of the team asap. Its gone stale. He wants to sign 3-4 players before the season starts. The only money he will have is income from players sold. Dembele is their biggest asset followed by Tierney. For what Rogers wants to do, griffiths is sufficient as their striker. They will want 20-25 mill for dembele I r reckon, though media reports here suggesting 15-20 with Brighton bidding 18. Bargain at that price.
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Post by Ursemboy on Dec 25, 2017 20:16:46 GMT
£18m is not our favourite number.
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 25, 2017 20:25:29 GMT
I'd have a punt on that Hugill(?) from Preston. 8 million. Know it would splash Vale a wedge..but who cares.
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Post by kustokie on Dec 25, 2017 20:27:55 GMT
Why are Celtic selling him? And for only £18m? And how would Dembele himself feel? He'd be losing Champs League and Europa but gaining Premier League, leaving a great football institution for a bunch of clowns in Brighton...I'm not sure it's a 'no brainer' for Dembele himself. If BHA are a bunch of clowns, what does that make us?
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Post by deliasmith on Dec 25, 2017 22:01:48 GMT
Bluenose alert.
Rodgers is the least pressured manager in the United Kingdom, in Europe probably.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2017 22:20:29 GMT
Excuse my ignorance, but who exactly outside of the SPL and Championship has he scored goals for
And this makes him a £18m shoe in?
Nurse...
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Dec 25, 2017 22:24:01 GMT
If he can play centre half in a back three, he’s just what we want. Seriously he’s an extremely fine player who will score goals in any league, but here at the moment what’s the difference between getting stuffed 4-0 and slightly less stuffed 4-1? It’s defenders we need folks and quite a few of them!
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Post by ashleyscfc on Dec 25, 2017 23:35:55 GMT
Two words
Gary Hooper
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Dec 26, 2017 0:48:01 GMT
Bluenose alert. Rodgers is the least pressured manager in the United Kingdom, in Europe probably. Ha ha I'm married into a family which includes a former celtic manager and captain. They are as celtic as you get. My pal is in the green brigade section at the ground and his family members have been presidents of the official supporters club. Everyone I know is celtic. Rogers will deliver a treble. But that isn't enough. He is facing criticism over performances in europe. He wants an overhaul before europa league games coming up after jan. If they get knocked out by zenit in the europa rogers will have failed this season and he'll face a bit of a backlash. Recently they have been outplayed by hibs, thrashed by hearts, smashed in the champs league. Celtic fans don't accept that even when it is by a team spending hundreds of millions
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Post by unknown182 on Dec 26, 2017 10:02:47 GMT
He's done nothing to warrent that price. Louie Moult must be worth £15m if that's the case.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Dec 26, 2017 10:18:17 GMT
He's done nothing to warrent that price. Louie Moult must be worth £15m if that's the case. I really think you need to watch him. He looks the part against top players, has all the attributes. Superb finisher too
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Post by alster on Dec 26, 2017 10:41:55 GMT
Why do people live in the past £18M is a punt for a proven goalscorer from a top league start at £50M.
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Post by 11wilkosinateam on Dec 26, 2017 10:49:44 GMT
Why do people live in the past £18M is a punt for a proven goalscorer from a top league start at £50M. Agree completely Remember reading an article a few years ago which averaged the strikers in the league cost and goals scored and it basically worked out at £1m per goal in a season Given it was a few years ago you could probably double that for todays market
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Post by MilanStokie on Dec 26, 2017 10:52:36 GMT
Henrik Larsson virgil van dijk just because you played at Celtic doesn't make you championship standard by rule...
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Post by baystokie on Dec 26, 2017 11:10:31 GMT
I find it quite amusing when players are linked with other clubs that a 'why aren't Stoke in for him' bandwagon rolls in. Reminds me of the end of the last window when WBA brought in Krychkoviak. Posts immediately flowed in saying that the Baggies had shown ambition and it showed us in a bad light. This is the same player who, it is alleged, has been such a revelation that they are now trying to terminate his loan. It's always easy to make a case for a player you haven't got as it can't be proven one way or the other - until you've signed him and it's too late then!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 26, 2017 11:11:45 GMT
I find it quite amusing when players are linked with other clubs that a 'why aren't Stoke in for him' bandwagon rolls in. Reminds me of the end of the last window when WBA brought in Krychkoviak. Posts immediately flowed in saying that the Baggies had shown ambition and it showed us in a bad light. This is the same player who, it is alleged, has been such a revelation that they are now trying to terminate his loan. It's always easy to make a case for a player you haven't got as it can't be proven one way or the other - until you've signed him and it's too late then! True. I'd still take the K man though 😂 But only permanently.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Dec 26, 2017 11:24:38 GMT
I find it quite amusing when players are linked with other clubs that a 'why aren't Stoke in for him' bandwagon rolls in. Reminds me of the end of the last window when WBA brought in Krychkoviak. Posts immediately flowed in saying that the Baggies had shown ambition and it showed us in a bad light. This is the same player who, it is alleged, has been such a revelation that they are now trying to terminate his loan. It's always easy to make a case for a player you haven't got as it can't be proven one way or the other - until you've signed him and it's too late then! True. I'd still take the K man though 😂 But only permanently. So would I. He's quality. West Brom are a complete shambles
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Post by superheroantonius on Dec 26, 2017 11:26:30 GMT
I remember reading an article on the top championship players, about a year ago Antony knockhaert, will hughes, chris wood and moussa dembele were all tipped for the top I have lost count of how many times scholes and co, mention value for money But if they believe their own rhetoric? How come they never sign anyone from the championship? Have they reached the top with Burnley, Brighton and Watford lol They have done okay ...which is a huge upgrade on what imbula, berahino and wimmer have done But my point is they were a financial safe bet. Even if they had flopped in the EPL/SPL ( they didn't) , because they have proven themselves a cut above in the championship, they could have been sold for lots of money to a newly relegated prem team or playoff losing championship team looking to buy proven championship players. For a promotion push I am saying if scholes and co are as financially savvy as they claim , their is better risk / reward with someone relatively young who has proven themselves a cut above in the championship , than their is buying a bench warmer from wba or spurs .
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 26, 2017 11:39:45 GMT
Henrik Larsson virgil van dijk just because you played at Celtic doesn't make you championship standard by rule... Mate I'm not slagging the SPL or Louis Moult (I've nothing but respect for him for rebuilding his career having been rejected by his hometown club) as I haven't really watched much of either. But both Louis and Dembele have a similar goalscoring record in the SPL. The difference being Moult has scored his goals in a bang average Motherwell team, Dembele in a free scoring, almost unbeatable (domestically at least), Celtic team. Louis has just managed to secure himself a 'step up' to Preston in the Championship. I just wonder is Dembele all he's cracked up to be? And £18m is our bogey figure after all isn't it? PS Dembele has scored 8 goals in 19 games this season, some against teams who it appears would struggle against the Vale. (including PSG ) Just saying like. I assume this thread is what we can expect for the next 5 weeks unfortunately? Other clubs being tenuously linked with either unrealistic or bang average players and the 'why aren't we in for ********' brigade starting thread after tedious thread as a means to batter the club/manager over the head with. I might retire for the duration of the window. Wake me up on February 1st.
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Post by devondumpling on Dec 26, 2017 11:46:43 GMT
No they have not; Celtic have denied reports that they have accepted an £18m bid for striker Moussa Dembele, 21, from Brighton.
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Post by lordb on Dec 26, 2017 12:48:51 GMT
He looked good at Fulham and he looked good in the Champions League last season However not so impressive this season in Europe. Presumably that's why he's no longer being linked with the top six.
£20m and relatively low wages, definitely a gamble rather than a nailed on scorer however as gambles go he looks decent.
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Post by Squeekster on Dec 26, 2017 12:50:12 GMT
No they have not; Celtic have denied reports that they have accepted an £18m bid for striker Moussa Dembele, 21, from Brighton. Yep, Celtic correspondent saying they haven't accepted but £25 million and they would be listening.
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Post by alster on Dec 26, 2017 12:52:53 GMT
I find it quite amusing when players are linked with other clubs that a 'why aren't Stoke in for him' bandwagon rolls in. Reminds me of the end of the last window when WBA brought in Krychkoviak. Posts immediately flowed in saying that the Baggies had shown ambition and it showed us in a bad light. This is the same player who, it is alleged, has been such a revelation that they are now trying to terminate his loan. It's always easy to make a case for a player you haven't got as it can't be proven one way or the other - until you've signed him and it's too late then! True. I'd still take the K man though 😂 But only permanently. You probably still think it would be utterly ridiculous to consider LB/LWB to be a natural position for Fabian Delph as well. Funny how you learn to ride a bike as a kid and you can not ride one for years yet you can still get on a bike and ride without any problem at all.
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Post by alster on Dec 26, 2017 12:54:56 GMT
He looked good at Fulham and he looked good in the Champions League last season However not so impressive this season in Europe. Presumably that's why he's no longer being linked with the top six. £20m and relatively low wages, definitely a gamble rather than a nailed on scorer however as gambles go he looks decent. As posted earlier if you want a nailed on regular goalscorer at this level start at £50M and work your way up.
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Post by lordb on Dec 26, 2017 12:57:56 GMT
He looked good at Fulham and he looked good in the Champions League last season However not so impressive this season in Europe. Presumably that's why he's no longer being linked with the top six. £20m and relatively low wages, definitely a gamble rather than a nailed on scorer however as gambles go he looks decent. As posted earlier if you want a nailed on regular goalscorer at this level start at £50M and work your way up. Indeed & That's not going to happen so we have to take gambles,most of which (as any bookmakers will tell you) will fail. Still that's where we are.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2017 13:00:46 GMT
I find it quite amusing when players are linked with other clubs that a 'why aren't Stoke in for him' bandwagon rolls in. Reminds me of the end of the last window when WBA brought in Krychkoviak. Posts immediately flowed in saying that the Baggies had shown ambition and it showed us in a bad light. This is the same player who, it is alleged, has been such a revelation that they are now trying to terminate his loan. It's always easy to make a case for a player you haven't got as it can't be proven one way or the other - until you've signed him and it's too late then! To be fair under a previous Smethwick manager he would've got a bad neck watching the ball sail over his head in midfield 😀😇
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 26, 2017 13:06:18 GMT
True. I'd still take the K man though 😂 But only permanently. You probably still think it would be utterly ridiculous to consider LB/LWB to be a natural position for Fabian Delph as well. Funny how you learn to ride a bike as a kid and you can not ride one for years yet you can still get on a bike and ride without any problem at all. I'd want him in midfield for us.
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Post by alster on Dec 26, 2017 13:11:33 GMT
As posted earlier if you want a nailed on regular goalscorer at this level start at £50M and work your way up. Indeed & That's not going to happen so we have to take gambles,most of which (as any bookmakers will tell you) will fail. Still that's where we are. Totally agree but people need to stop getting hysterical when gambles don't come off. I do however believe that if we went the extra mile to tie up our favored targets instead of scrimping we'd be far healthier than we currently are.
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Post by lordb on Dec 26, 2017 13:17:29 GMT
Indeed & That's not going to happen so we have to take gambles,most of which (as any bookmakers will tell you) will fail. Still that's where we are. Totally agree but people need to stop getting hysterical when gambles don't come off. I do however believe that if we went the extra mile to tie up our favored targets instead of scrimping we'd be far healthier than we currently are. Yes & yes. Amazes me when people,Mike Pejic for example, describe Berahino as a big money signing.
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