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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Dec 19, 2017 12:41:55 GMT
Maybe this is why Ryan is currently Ruthless when putting the ball in his own net but keeps missing sitters at the other end.
Ryan seems to be on a mission to get Hughes sacked and Pulis back at the club
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 19, 2017 12:42:40 GMT
Where has this term "fans favourite" come from? Who says he is? Someone is making an awful lot of assumptions on our behalf. I'd say it's 50/50 at the very best for a Pulis return here on the oatcake. Those aren't exactly the odds of a "favourite". It's nowhere near 50/50. He's currently got 34 votes out of 680 on the poll. Even if you discount the fact that you can make 3 choices, and say there's 298 voters... at best i'd say 1 in 10 people want him back. Hobson's choice by the look it, we keep a manager 75% don't want to keep or employ a manager who 75% don't want, what a fcuking mess the club is this could have been avoided by replacing Lethargic Les at the end of last season.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 19, 2017 12:42:45 GMT
Right so just to get this straifght You'd rather get relegated playing with no fight, commitment, and passion. Than play with hoofball and survive for half a season. Jesus wept And what guarantee have we that TP will keep us up? That's right, none! Have you forgotten that even before he was sacked, Pulis was sitting below us in the table? Stoke and WBA = 2 established mid table Prem sides who have both been utterly dire since at least the 2nd half of last season but WBA's record since then has been even worse than ours. His record now includes WBAs longest ever spell without a win in their history and he was manager for the majority of that prestigious claim Which of those facts convince anyone that a manager that whilst with us never finished as high as Hughes has managed with us, and for the last season or so has taken WBA to a bigger crisis and less points than us, is the right man for the job? Can people take their tongue out of his arse, forget this "never been relegated bollocks" (there are loads of managers with that claim, including our current one) and actually start looking at it logically please? Bringing in a man with a worse recent record than the man who's being sacked (seemingly inevitably now) is utter madness. Especially when the board know full well that man is actively hated by at least 50% of the fanbase and has already fallen out with several of the players he'll be taking on before he's even started! Also, West Brom's players are more suited to battling it out than our lot, and he was struggling to get results with them. How would he organise our rabble into playing his way?
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Post by dutchstokie on Dec 19, 2017 12:42:56 GMT
Sorry if already posted. But if and it’s a big if he said that he realises his longevity at this club is over but he’s willing to return until the end of the season to try and help us. Would even the most anti-Pulis fans accept that? BOLLOCKS would I ! I simply can not believe that Coates is even contemplating having this scrote back again I genuinely pity the season ticket holders If this actualiteit does go through One thing that really grates my gears is that they have regaled us again and again and again with ‘only replacing with better’ And yet we entertain the idea of bringing this shithouse back
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Post by robrigo on Dec 19, 2017 12:43:22 GMT
It’s like we are on this neverending carasoul operated by Tony Pulis. Five years on and still the man divides.
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Post by thegift on Dec 19, 2017 12:43:26 GMT
Right so just to get this straifght You'd rather get relegated playing with no fight, commitment, and passion. Than play with hoofball and survive for half a season. Jesus wept Did you conveniently miss the part where I said I want us to be a top half team? You know full fucking well those 6 months will turn into a full contract. Also, it's straight, not straifght, I can be a pedant about spelling too It was just a typo, not actually a spelling error, but if that's all your bothered about because you know your talking out your ass, then so be it. I want us to be a top half team but it isn't going to happen under hughes!!
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Post by maliciousdamage on Dec 19, 2017 12:43:26 GMT
Love how they're being deluged with Stoke fans saying effectively "over my dead body" I wish these media dogs would just sod off and stop trying to get managers either the sack or a job, I'm sure a massive poll of supporters would show its a bare minimum that want Pulis back, this fanatical obsession with his return is merely there to then fuel their fire to hope we become a dire hoofball side again under him so they can bang on again about what a terrible side we are and shouldn't be in the top flight, they just love belittling us and would love to have another go at us under Pulis. The club should realise we 'have' moved on from this and what they need to do is find a manager capable of taking the players we have got that can play a bit of football and mould them back into a more organised and decisive unit. There are some good players in there with some talent it just needs a system, some basic training in it and some decent man management to get it out of them. The club then need to back the manager 'properly' with investment and not piddle around trying to do it on the cheap. I think a third round of Pulis will end badly in my opinion
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Post by Rick Grimes on Dec 19, 2017 12:44:49 GMT
I'd rather get relegated with Hughes than have Pulis back as manager.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 12:44:55 GMT
Right so just to get this straifght You'd rather get relegated playing with no fight, commitment, and passion. Than play with hoofball and survive for half a season. Jesus wept And what guarantee have we that TP will keep us up? That's right, none! Have you forgotten that even before he was sacked, Pulis was sitting below us in the table? Stoke and WBA = 2 established mid table Prem sides who have both been utterly dire since at least the 2nd half of last season but WBA's record since then has been even worse than ours. His record now includes WBAs longest ever spell without a win in their history and he was manager for the majority of that prestigious claim Which of those facts convince anyone that a manager that whilst with us never finished as high as Hughes has managed with us, and for the last season or so has taken WBA to a bigger crisis and less points than us, is the right man for the job? Can people take their tongue out of his arse, forget this "never been relegated bollocks" (there are loads of managers with that claim, including our current one) and actually start looking at it logically please? Bringing in a man with a worse recent record than the man who's being sacked (seemingly inevitably now) is utter madness. Especially when the board know full well that man is actively hated by at least 50% of the fanbase and has already fallen out with several of the players he'll be taking on before he's even started! Thanks for putting it better than I could . But I fear you're wasting your breath on fans that just see him as some sort of Messiah.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Dec 19, 2017 12:46:46 GMT
And what guarantee have we that TP will keep us up? That's right, none! Have you forgotten that even before he was sacked, Pulis was sitting below us in the table? Stoke and WBA = 2 established mid table Prem sides who have both been utterly dire since at least the 2nd half of last season but WBA's record since then has been even worse than ours. Which of those facts convince anyone that a manager that whilst with us never finished as high as Hughes has managed with us, and for the last season or so has taken WBA to a bigger crisis and less points than us, is the right man for the job? Can people take their tongue out of his arse, forget this "never been relegated bollocks" (there are loads of managers with that claim, including our current one) and actually start looking at it logically please? Bringing in a man with a worse recent record than the man who's being sacked (seemingly inevitably now) is utter madness. Especially when the board know full well that man is actively hated by at least 50% of the fanbase and has already fallen out with several of the players he'll be taking on before he's even started! Mark Hughes Relegated QPR. Erm.....nope. As usual, you don't have any knowledge or facts, so think throwing out soundbites enough times will convince people it was true. Hughes wasn't manager when they went down or even for a large part of the season they went down. They're just facts whether they fit into your bullshit or not. You tried this "Well they were his players he brought in, his setup" bullshit yesterday and Pugs owned you then as well. If you're going by that logic then surely you HAVE to accept that Pulis is even more wank than Hughes, as WBA were below us before he was sacked and are still below us with the team and setup HE implemented over the last 2 years. If they go down this season then by YOUR argument, Pulis got them relegated (both Pulis at WBA and Hughes at QPR were sacked at almost exactly the same points of the season). If you want to say it's Hughes that got them relegated then you've basically just sunk your own fucking argument as to why Pulis is the man to take us forward you jebend! really not too bright are you? You've proved on this thread alone you know fuck all mate, so give it some neck and let the grown ups talk eh
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Post by samba :) on Dec 19, 2017 12:47:57 GMT
Keeping us up when he first came Signing lee hendrie Getting us up Keeping us up Getting everyone fired up Being the worst team to ever survive in the prem Everyone hating us Fa cup final 5-0 at wembley The european tour
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 19, 2017 12:48:23 GMT
And what guarantee have we that TP will keep us up? That's right, none! Have you forgotten that even before he was sacked, Pulis was sitting below us in the table? Stoke and WBA = 2 established mid table Prem sides who have both been utterly dire since at least the 2nd half of last season but WBA's record since then has been even worse than ours. His record now includes WBAs longest ever spell without a win in their history and he was manager for the majority of that prestigious claim Which of those facts convince anyone that a manager that whilst with us never finished as high as Hughes has managed with us, and for the last season or so has taken WBA to a bigger crisis and less points than us, is the right man for the job? Can people take their tongue out of his arse, forget this "never been relegated bollocks" (there are loads of managers with that claim, including our current one) and actually start looking at it logically please? Bringing in a man with a worse recent record than the man who's being sacked (seemingly inevitably now) is utter madness. Especially when the board know full well that man is actively hated by at least 50% of the fanbase and has already fallen out with several of the players he'll be taking on before he's even started! Also, West Brom's players are more suited to battling it out than our lot, and he was struggling to get results with them. How would he organise our rabble into playing his way? And that is the heart of the problem, the squad we have is not suitable for playing any recognised style a rabble of individuals many mercenaries, they don't give a shit about this club, I can not think of anyone could save our sorry arses at the moment unless a massive amount of money is spent on the right players that suit a system. that is not going to happen Hughes should have gone last season.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 12:48:42 GMT
It's nowhere near 50/50. He's currently got 34 votes out of 680 on the poll. Even if you discount the fact that you can make 3 choices, and say there's 298 voters... at best i'd say 1 in 10 people want him back. Hobson's choice by the look it, we keep a manager 75% don't want to keep or employ a manager who 75% don't want, what a fcuking mess the club is this could have been avoided by replacing Lethargic Les at the end of last season. It encapsulates the whole problem at Stoke. Small time limited thinking with no plan B. Why bother to get another manager until this one is broken beyond repair....ZERO ambition....We'll get another one in the January Sales when they are cheaper.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 19, 2017 12:49:31 GMT
I'd rather get relegated with Hughes than have Pulis back as manager. I wouldn't. Neither are suitable. Get someone else in, give him some money for the January sales and take it from there.
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Post by robrigo on Dec 19, 2017 12:51:11 GMT
This has been leaked to gauge fan reactions. But fuck that.
TP will be in the dugout won’t he? Please let my thoughts be wrong Stoke.
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Post by auntiegeorge on Dec 19, 2017 12:51:34 GMT
Where has this term "fans favourite" come from? Who says he is? Someone is making an awful lot of assumptions on our behalf. I'd say it's 50/50 at the very best for a Pulis return here on the oatcake. Those aren't exactly the odds of a "favourite". It's nowhere near 50/50. He's currently got 34 votes out of 680 on the poll. Even if you discount the fact that you can make 3 choices, and say there's 298 voters... at best i'd say 1 in 10 people want him back. Thanks. I hadn't seen the poll. Wow oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/274378/who-new-manager
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Post by nott1 on Dec 19, 2017 12:52:49 GMT
Exactly!!!!!!!!
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Post by wuzza on Dec 19, 2017 12:53:18 GMT
I'd rather get relegated with Hughes than have Pulis back as manager. I wouldn't. Neither are suitable. Get someone else in, give him some money for the January sales and take it from there. Which is probably what will happen after the little session of hysteria. (Mind you a win on Sat will probably put this all on the back burner again thank goodness)
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 19, 2017 12:53:28 GMT
Hobson's choice by the look it, we keep a manager 75% don't want to keep or employ a manager who 75% don't want, what a fcuking mess the club is this could have been avoided by replacing Lethargic Les at the end of last season. It encapsulates the whole problem at Stoke. Small time limited thinking with no plan B. Why bother to get another manager until this one is broken beyond repair....ZERO ambition....We'll get another one in the January Sales when they are cheaper. To be honest Hughes has been breaking our club for the past 18 months, we have carried on through the tunnel thinking we could see the light at the end of it turns out it's a fcuking train heading straight for us.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 12:53:29 GMT
This has been leaked to gauge fan reactions. But fuck that. TP will be in the dugout won’t he? Please let my thoughts be wrong Stoke. Exactly my thoughts. My gut feeling is that the deal has already been done and the leak is to gauge when exactly to announce and what excuses to chuck out during the announcement. I really do genuinely "hope i'm proved wrong".
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Post by reidy11 on Dec 19, 2017 12:53:31 GMT
Doubt he will return BUT if they handed him a contract till the end of season to ensure we didnt get relegated then id have him back. Gives us time to look for someone else or if he produces the goods then possibly look at a 12 month contract there after.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 19, 2017 12:55:53 GMT
Keeping us up when he first came Signing lee hendrie Getting us up Keeping us up Getting everyone fired up Being the worst team to ever survive in the prem Everyone hating us Fa cup final 5-0 at wembley The european tour Leaving. Twice.
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Post by thegift on Dec 19, 2017 12:56:41 GMT
Mark Hughes Relegated QPR. Erm.....nope. As usual, you don't have any knowledge or facts, so think throwing out soundbites enough times will convince people it was true. Hughes wasn't manager when they went down or even for a large part of the season they went down. They're just facts whether they fit into your bullshit or not. You tried this "Well they were his players he brought in, his setup" bullshit yesterday and Pugs owned you then as well. If you're going by that logic then surely you HAVE to accept that Pulis is even more wank than Hughes, as WBA were below us before he was sacked and are still below us with the team and setup HE implemented over the last 2 years. If they go down this season then by YOUR argument, Pulis got them relegated (both Pulis at WBA and Hughes at QPR were sacked at almost exactly the same points of the season). If you want to say it's Hughes that got them relegated then you've basically just sunk your own fucking argument as to why Pulis is the man to take us forward you jebend! really not too bright are you? You've proved on this thread alone you know fuck all mate, so give it some neck and let the grown ups talk eh It doesn't matter if you have your blinkers on or not, no matter how much you rim mark hughes, he did relegate QPR. He may of let before it was official, but they were in such a bad place they were never going to get out of it. Pulis got sacked from WBA with more chance of WBA staying up than QPR. QPR were absolutely ruined by mark hughes. That's a fact as well.
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Post by scfc75 on Dec 19, 2017 12:56:56 GMT
It's nowhere near 50/50. He's currently got 34 votes out of 680 on the poll. Even if you discount the fact that you can make 3 choices, and say there's 298 voters... at best i'd say 1 in 10 people want him back. Hobson's choice by the look it, we keep a manager 75% don't want to keep or employ a manager who 75% don't want, what a fcuking mess the club is this could have been avoided by replacing Lethargic Les at the end of last season. I'd say it's at least 90% in both cases, not 75%. I agree it has been left too late. I've been a fan of Hughes, but his time is up.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 19, 2017 12:57:46 GMT
Doubt he will return BUT if they handed him a contract till the end of season to ensure we didnt get relegated then id have him back. Gives us time to look for someone else or if he produces the goods then possibly look at a 12 month contract there after. It would make sense given the situation we are in, maybe the board are planning for a return to the championship and see Toxic as a manager who could bring us back up who knows, who ever takes over this season has a mountain to climb with hardly any decent equipment to do it with.
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Post by bobk on Dec 19, 2017 12:57:50 GMT
At least we've established Hughes HAS TO GO asap.
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Post by thegift on Dec 19, 2017 13:00:15 GMT
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Post by robrigo on Dec 19, 2017 13:00:15 GMT
This has been leaked to gauge fan reactions. But fuck that. TP will be in the dugout won’t he? Please let my thoughts be wrong Stoke. Exactly my thoughts. My gut feeling is that the deal has already been done and the leak is to gauge when exactly to announce and what excuses to chuck out during the announcement. I really do genuinely "hope i'm proved wrong". He’s had his time, Hughes has had his. I really hope we move forwards, be progressive and proactive and show a modicum of forward thinking. A third coming of the capped one is none of that. I’m genuinely worried about the club now. The next moves are pivotal to the future and unity. Without unity the club is fucked for the foresee able future
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 19, 2017 13:01:22 GMT
Why?
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 19, 2017 13:01:28 GMT
Hobson's choice by the look it, we keep a manager 75% don't want to keep or employ a manager who 75% don't want, what a fcuking mess the club is this could have been avoided by replacing Lethargic Les at the end of last season. I'd say it's at least 90% in both cases, not 75%. I agree it has been left too late. I've been a fan of Hughes, but his time is up. I was trying to be kind to both Pulis was sacked one season to late, Hughes one and a half and still counting neither are popular but I have to admit I believe we have more chance of surviving this mess under Pulis than we have under Hughes.
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