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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 17, 2017 10:26:30 GMT
It makes for very, very grim viewing.
Every single chance arnie had came from his just drifting off the back of wimmer.
Jesus christ...it was even more horrible than being there.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 17, 2017 10:31:18 GMT
Was out all day yday so didn’t even know the score until this morning.
Jesus Christ, we were terrible.
I only saw the highlights but I think that’s all I needed to see.
There is no way we are surviving this.
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Post by waffles on Dec 17, 2017 10:32:39 GMT
Mark seems confident that we will.......,.....
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Post by Macko on Dec 17, 2017 10:34:33 GMT
Only players that came out with any credit were Butland and Allen. The rest had shocking moments amongst a sea of dross. Its the complete inability to get the players working as a cohesive whole and cutting out the many many individual errors that means more than anything Hughes has to go right now before its too late to pull this team back from the brink.
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Post by ivorstokie on Dec 17, 2017 10:35:09 GMT
Was out all day yday so didn’t even know the score until this morning. Jesus Christ, we were terrible. I only saw the highlights but I think that’s all I needed to see. There is no way we are surviving this. You didn't bother to find out the score until this morning! If you live up to your name it's God help us!! |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 17, 2017 10:36:10 GMT
Only players that came out with any credit were Butland and Allen. The rest had shocking moments amongst a sea of dross. Its the complete inability to get the players working as a cohesive whole and cutting out the many many individual errors that means more than anything Hughes has to go right now before its too late to pull this team back from the brink. I really felt for Allen yesterday...and pieters. |
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Post by waffles on Dec 17, 2017 10:41:43 GMT
It's a slightly moot point because we were shit all game but the penalty was a shocking decision, made worse by the referee having the best view in the stadium
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 17, 2017 10:42:22 GMT
It makes for very, very grim viewing. Every single chance arnie had came from his just drifting off the back of wimmer. Jesus christ...it was even more horrible than being there.
Grim is certainly the word Dave, we were dreadful.
Which one do you think it was then?
He can't and wont survive another spurs performance, particularly to one of our peers. He will survive a burnley type defeat. |
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Post by superheroantonius on Dec 17, 2017 10:42:39 GMT
Yep
We are definately going down
Butland and allen will get premiership moves
Shaq is off to somewhere sunny
And we are going to be a bang average championship side
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Post by PotteringThrough on Dec 17, 2017 10:45:11 GMT
It makes for very, very grim viewing. Every single chance arnie had came from his just drifting off the back of wimmer. Jesus christ...it was even more horrible than being there. Great through ball from Pieters though in the first half - gave Wimmer no chance... (Only joshing) |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 17, 2017 10:45:56 GMT
I have. The second goal, Arnie's, was some of the worst play and cowardly defending I've seen in nearly 40 years of watching Stoke.
The other things I took from the game is that Darren Fletcher is completely finished at this level, he really is atrocious and a way bigger liability than Charlie ever was and finally, we are going down unless we change manager and make four signings in the unfriendly January window.
We are an abysmal side.
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Post by alster on Dec 17, 2017 10:49:28 GMT
Still not seen the third goal and don't particularly want to. The whole experience has put me off football for the weekend it really is quite traumatic watching our games right now.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 17, 2017 10:51:41 GMT
Only players that came out with any credit were Butland and Allen. The rest had shocking moments amongst a sea of dross. Its the complete inability to get the players working as a cohesive whole and cutting out the many many individual errors that means more than anything Hughes has to go right now before its too late to pull this team back from the brink. I really felt for Allen yesterday...and pieters. Is this the Joe Allen that you’ve slaughtered for most of the season? |
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Post by alster on Dec 17, 2017 10:55:24 GMT
Two goals easily preventable by tackles from Cameron and Tymon respectively. Good bad or rugby tackles I really don't care.
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Post by alster on Dec 17, 2017 10:59:26 GMT
I really felt for Allen yesterday...and pieters. Is this the Joe Allen that you’ve slaughtered for most of the season? Probably the same Joe Allen who all too often wins the ball with one touch and loses it with his next. The fact that right now he's our best player by a fucking mile doesn't make that fact any less frustrating. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 17, 2017 11:00:51 GMT
It makes for very, very grim viewing. Every single chance arnie had came from his just drifting off the back of wimmer. Jesus christ...it was even more horrible than being there.
Grim is certainly the word Dave, we were dreadful.
Which one do you think it was then?
He can't and wont survive another spurs performance, particularly to one of our peers. He will survive a burnley type defeat. Two ways of looking at it really isnt there? Ryan scores instead of hitting the post or the ref gets a pair of eyes and its a different game. Ryan equalises, and its a different game. Pieters doesnt pull up lame its a different game. There is plenty there to suggest the chairman will remain sensitive. However, the performance of wimmer, the substitutions, the scoreline, the goals against column also means there are plenty of reasons as to why the chairman may decide enough is enough. Personally, enough is enough. Football means far more than it should, and this shit is genuinely ruining my life. I think of nothing else other than stoke city at the moment. Its ridiculous really. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 17, 2017 11:02:07 GMT
I really felt for Allen yesterday...and pieters. Is this the Joe Allen that you’ve slaughtered for most of the season? I havent slaughtered allen this season at all. Hes our player of the season to date in my opinion. Last season i slaughtered his headless chicken routine...rightly so as well. And you accuse me of losing my marbles  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 17, 2017 11:02:56 GMT
I really felt for Allen yesterday...and pieters. Is this the Joe Allen that you’ve slaughtered for most of the season? Allen was shite yesterday. He worked hard but most of that work he created with his shite first touch and worse passing. It was a proper Dean Whitehead performance. Win the ball, lose the ball, win it again. Just pointless. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 11:03:35 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 17, 2017 11:04:21 GMT
Is this the Joe Allen that you’ve slaughtered for most of the season? I havent slaughtered allen this season at all. Hes our player of the season to date in my opinion. Last season i slaughtered his headless chicken routine...rightly so as well. And you accuse me of losing my marbles Really Dave😄 |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 17, 2017 11:05:06 GMT
Is this the Joe Allen that you’ve slaughtered for most of the season? Allen was shite yesterday. He worked hard but most of that work he created with his shite first touch and worse passing. It was a proper Dean Whitehead performance. Win the ball, lose the ball, win it again. Just pointless. Hes in there on his own. Two "second touch was a tackle" moments in quick succession aside, he was good yesterday and easily our best performer alongside pieters |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 17, 2017 11:05:50 GMT
I havent slaughtered allen this season at all. Hes our player of the season to date in my opinion. Last season i slaughtered his headless chicken routine...rightly so as well. And you accuse me of losing my marbles Really Dave😄 From memory, it was only the palace game where i said he was shite this season. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 17, 2017 11:06:01 GMT
Is this the Joe Allen that you’ve slaughtered for most of the season? Allen was shite yesterday. He worked hard but most of that work he created with his shite first touch and worse passing. It was a proper Dean Whitehead performance. Win the ball, lose the ball, win it again. Just pointless. Sorry mate but that’s bollocks,he was the only player along with Butland to hold his high after that team performance |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 17, 2017 11:06:36 GMT
From memory, it was only the palace game where i said he was shite this season. I beg to differ😄 |
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Post by alster on Dec 17, 2017 11:06:53 GMT
Is this the Joe Allen that you’ve slaughtered for most of the season? Allen was shite yesterday. He worked hard but most of that work he created with his shite first touch and worse passing. It was a proper Dean Whitehead performance. Win the ball, lose the ball, win it again. Just pointless. How can it be pointless when most of his teammates can't even be bothered to try to win it in the first place. As I've posted above frustrating but still a beacon in an otherwise complete bag of wank. |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Dec 17, 2017 11:14:43 GMT
Still not seen the third goal and don't particularly want to. The whole experience has put me off football for the weekend it really is quite traumatic watching our games right now. Saw the third, and because of that, I just don't want to see another football match this weekend, don't want to see "goals...highlights...or full matches" Feel really pissed off at the moment!!! |
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Post by alster on Dec 17, 2017 11:15:07 GMT
Grim is certainly the word Dave, we were dreadful.
Which one do you think it was then?
Two ways of looking at it really isnt there? Ryan scores instead of hitting the post or the ref gets a pair of eyes and its a different game. Ryan equalises, and its a different game. Pieters doesnt pull up lame its a different game. There is plenty there to suggest the chairman will remain sensitive. However, the performance of wimmer, the substitutions, the scoreline, the goals against column also means there are plenty of reasons as to why the chairman may decide enough is enough. Personally, enough is enough. Football means far more than it should, and this shit is genuinely ruining my life. I think of nothing else other than stoke city at the moment. Its ridiculous really. I know what you mean johnno it really is getting to many of us probably way more than it should. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 17, 2017 11:21:25 GMT
Allen was shite yesterday. He worked hard but most of that work he created with his shite first touch and worse passing. It was a proper Dean Whitehead performance. Win the ball, lose the ball, win it again. Just pointless. Hes in there on his own. Two "second touch was a tackle" moments in quick succession aside, he was good yesterday and easily our best performer alongside pieters He was in there on his own but there's still no excuse for how he played. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 17, 2017 11:23:53 GMT
Allen was shite yesterday. He worked hard but most of that work he created with his shite first touch and worse passing. It was a proper Dean Whitehead performance. Win the ball, lose the ball, win it again. Just pointless. Sorry mate but that’s bollocks,he was the only player along with Butland to hold his high after that team performance He created half of the problems we had. Him and Fletcher were both bollocks and awol. Allen awol in the form of winning then losing it so being out of position. I knew most people would love his performance but for me it summed up how shit we are. There was no footballing ability on show, he ran around and on the whole fucked it up despite trying his damndest. Effort for me though wasn't a problem from most of them. We're just a really bad football team. |
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Post by wuzza on Dec 17, 2017 11:30:02 GMT
I’ve watched it again and the over riding impressions were that West Ham (like most of our opponents) move up and down the field at 10 times the pace we do and their first touch in crucial areas was infinitely better.
We appear to lack fitness, finesse and good old fashioned nous.
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