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Post by haway on Jan 3, 2018 16:28:14 GMT
Take it from me, if you have a poor PL campaign and get left with a squad low on quality and character, it’s definitely possible.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 16:32:08 GMT
Take it from me, if you have a poor PL campaign and get left with a squad low on quality and character, it’s definitely possible. In which case:
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Post by samba :) on Jan 3, 2018 16:56:15 GMT
10 relegations away from playing abbey hulton
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Post by FrankButcher on Jan 3, 2018 17:11:14 GMT
It could happen, happened to wigan, bolton, blackpool all previous premier league teams could happen to sunderland, hull too but i don't think it will happen to us even if we did go down this season there will be quite a lot of championship proven managers who would love to manage us i.e pearson, mick mccarthy, neil warnock, gary rowett, dean smith etc but it would require a huge restructure in the summer!
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Post by skemstokie on Jan 3, 2018 17:13:40 GMT
It might sound premature, but we have the look of a side that could well face a double relegation in two years down to League One. The current side can't defend, score, can barely pass or run, the players are old, rubbish or will leave. And with how bad the recruitment has been over the recent years, can we really build to win promotion to the premier league? Or to even finish mid table in the championship? Not to mention there are serious questions to answer about whether the club really gives a fuck. The fact Mark Hughes is still manager suggests the answer may be not. Better get used to trips to Shrewsbury, Oldham, Rochdale, Luton again. Have you thought of having therapy,football is merely a game,people sleeping rough after evictions,innocent people getting killed in terrorist attacks,children and adults dying from cancer etc.natural disasters happening all round the world and you are worrying that a possible relegation might be followed by a possible second relegation.By the way i think we will survive if that cheers you up
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jan 3, 2018 21:57:09 GMT
It might sound premature, but we have the look of a side that could well face a double relegation in two years down to League One. The current side can't defend, score, can barely pass or run, the players are old, rubbish or will leave. And with how bad the recruitment has been over the recent years, can we really build to win promotion to the premier league? Or to even finish mid table in the championship? Not to mention there are serious questions to answer about whether the club really gives a fuck. The fact Mark Hughes is still manager suggests the answer may be not. Better get used to trips to Shrewsbury, Oldham, Rochdale, Luton again. Have you thought of having therapy,football is merely a game,people sleeping rough after evictions,innocent people getting killed in terrorist attacks,children and adults dying from cancer etc.natural disasters happening all round the world and you are worrying that a possible relegation might be followed by a possible second relegation.By the way i think we will survive if that cheers you up . I mean I dont know what you were expecting me to post on a football forum...
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Post by haway on Jan 3, 2018 22:59:23 GMT
Take it from me, if you have a poor PL campaign and get left with a squad low on quality and character, it’s definitely possible. In which case: I’m not sure, I think if you get rid of Hughes then you have a shot of avoiding it pal.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 3, 2018 23:04:15 GMT
In which case: I’m not sure, I think if you get rid of Hughes then you have a shot of avoiding it pal. Are you happy with Coleman so far mate?
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 3, 2018 23:09:11 GMT
We'd get Warnock in.
We'd have 80 million in from selling Allen, Butland, Shaq. We'd still have Grant, Shawcross, Bruno, Pieters, Adam, Cameron, Choupo or Sobhi (we wouldn't need to sell both) Diouf, hopefully a berahino back on form, and hopefully a couple of young players coming through.
We'd need to spend at least half the money.
So we may as well spend 40 mill on midfield NOW and give us a chance on staying up.
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Post by haway on Jan 4, 2018 13:03:24 GMT
I’m not sure, I think if you get rid of Hughes then you have a shot of avoiding it pal. Are you happy with Coleman so far mate? Aye mate, I'm happy enough with him.
He came in and made the defence look much more solid as a unit. When Grayson was in charge, we got no clean sheets. Coleman has came in and has achieved four so far if I remember rightly (including a 0-0 draw away to Wolves).
There's still some daft errors we make. For example, our most recent game at home to Barnsley - their goal came from a corner which was allowed to actually BOUNCE in the box and the scorer was unmarked at the back post to head it in.
I still hate our owner. Coleman has already alluded to the fact we will have little or no money to spend this window...not what you want to hear when your club is bottom of the championship and the squad is absolutely shite!
Overall I'm happy with Coleman, but he needs his head checking for resigning from Wales to manage this lot.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 4, 2018 17:13:01 GMT
Are you happy with Coleman so far mate? Aye mate, I'm happy enough with him.
He came in and made the defence look much more solid as a unit. When Grayson was in charge, we got no clean sheets. Coleman has came in and has achieved four so far if I remember rightly (including a 0-0 draw away to Wolves).
There's still some daft errors we make. For example, our most recent game at home to Barnsley - their goal came from a corner which was allowed to actually BOUNCE in the box and the scorer was unmarked at the back post to head it in.
I still hate our owner. Coleman has already alluded to the fact we will have little or no money to spend this window...not what you want to hear when your club is bottom of the championship and the squad is absolutely shite!
Overall I'm happy with Coleman, but he needs his head checking for resigning from Wales to manage this lot.
I think he'll keep you up mate, then you'd hope that would give you platform for the next season. Quite what platform we have however, is anyones guess, cos the foundations are shakier than a shakin stevens greatest hits album.
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Post by jzime on Jan 6, 2018 20:06:27 GMT
After today's result, think it's pretty clear that this squad (under this manager) would struggle in the Championship. Only real blessing right now is that this manager won't be in charge next week, let alone next season.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jan 6, 2018 20:43:55 GMT
Now the manager has gone, I hope that this will never become a thing.
But for it not to happen, we need to recruit much better, get a good manager and in and if we do go down this season, be in a good position for a promotion push next year.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Jan 6, 2018 20:52:38 GMT
There's a definite danger of us going the same way as Sunderland if we go down this season. A lot of the ingredients for struggle are there. A core of workshy, gutless players who go missing when the going gets tough. A lack of a goalscorer. A shoddy completely disjointed defence. A collection of highly paid flops on long contracts who will be impossible to shift and will restrict our ability to invest in new players now that we've left the Premier League money train (Imbula, Wimmer, Berahino). Using the assumption that our few decent players like Shaqiri and Butland will leave after relegation if it happens and Ryan's injury woes are terminal, there's not too many players in our squad who you'd say will do well in the Championship. Maybe Diouf and Choupo-Moting but I'd suspect a few vultures would be after them too.
This appointment and our January recruitment is the most important since the appointment of Pulis in 2002 and his recruitment of Crossley and Akinbiyi in the second half of the season. Or the Beattie and Etherington window in 2009. We need to strike gold or it's relegation for certain and I fear for our near future if that happens.
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Post by banx10 on Jan 7, 2018 10:42:03 GMT
Predicted it when Tony got the boot.
I know it seemed unlikely for, Wigan winning the FA Cup & relegation all the way to league 1. Sunderland never thought they'd go down & now likely to drop to league 1. Charlton, the list goes on.
Do we have some right to stay up because we're Stoke or have done well recently?
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Mar 18, 2018 11:17:01 GMT
We're nearly halfway there...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 11:22:09 GMT
We're nearly halfway there... Embarrassing thread.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Mar 18, 2018 12:49:40 GMT
We're nearly halfway there... Embarrassing thread. thank you
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Apr 18, 2018 9:29:36 GMT
Lambert staying on? Here we go!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2018 9:30:49 GMT
Lambert staying on? Here we go! Do yourself a favour and get a life. There's nothing worse than narcissistic 'told you so' posts.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Apr 18, 2018 10:18:00 GMT
Lambert staying on? Here we go! Do yourself a favour and get a life. There's nothing worse than narcissistic 'told you so' posts. Well I told you so, so...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2018 10:22:08 GMT
Do yourself a favour and get a life. There's nothing worse than narcissistic 'told you so' posts. Well I told you so, so... And what are you after? Do you want all the posters to herald you a footballing genius and start a position for you to become the next manager? We've not even been relegated once yet, so like I said, get a life and stop celebrating in your football club's misfortunes for the sake of your own ego.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Apr 18, 2018 10:40:41 GMT
Well I told you so, so... And what are you after? Do you want all the posters to herald you a footballing genius and start a position for you to become the next manager? We've not even been relegated once yet, so like I said, get a life and stop celebrating in your football club's misfortunes for the sake of your own ego. I mean a gold statue wouldn't be bad... I'm not celebrating my club's downfall. But given some of the stick I've had for correctly pointing out we're in decline over the past 2 years, I'm not feeling guilty about smirking at other fans.
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Post by wrighter on Apr 18, 2018 10:52:02 GMT
It might sound premature, but we have the look of a side that could well face a double relegation in two years down to League One. The current side can't defend, score, can barely pass or run, the players are old, rubbish or will leave. And with how bad the recruitment has been over the recent years, can we really build to win promotion to the premier league? Or to even finish mid table in the championship? Not to mention there are serious questions to answer about whether the club really gives a fuck. The fact Mark Hughes is still manager suggests the answer may be not. Better get used to trips to Shrewsbury, Oldham, Rochdale, Luton again. Why not go the whole hog and say the National League while you are at it !!!
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Post by knyperstokie on Apr 18, 2018 11:01:19 GMT
I'd say the present squad belongs somewhere at the bottom of The Championship/top half of Division One. Take Allen, Shaq and Buttland out of the squad and we are a Division One side.
At Easter we were away and I watched Wolves v Cardiff on Sky. Stoke would have struggled against both of these teams.
Watching players chase after the ball with enthusiasm was a bit of a change.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Apr 18, 2018 11:19:18 GMT
It might sound premature, but we have the look of a side that could well face a double relegation in two years down to League One. The current side can't defend, score, can barely pass or run, the players are old, rubbish or will leave. And with how bad the recruitment has been over the recent years, can we really build to win promotion to the premier league? Or to even finish mid table in the championship? Not to mention there are serious questions to answer about whether the club really gives a fuck. The fact Mark Hughes is still manager suggests the answer may be not. Better get used to trips to Shrewsbury, Oldham, Rochdale, Luton again. Why not go the whole hog and say the National League while you are at it !!! why would I say that then
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Post by thegift on Apr 18, 2018 11:23:41 GMT
Unfortunately again the op is right. Were a shower of shit.
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Post by jollypotter89 on Apr 18, 2018 11:45:10 GMT
Can't see this happening to us, big mistakes have been made by people at the top & some changes are needed (Looking at you Scholes & Cartwright), but I don't agree with this 'rotten to the core' talk I've seen some mention about our club - if you look the recent examples of clubs who've fallen through the Championship to League One, they've been in a worse state than we are
Sunderland, for example, have an owner who clearly doesn't give a damn anymore - ours, despite making a balls up of things recently, can't be put in the same bracket as their owner
Wolves appointing Stale Solbakken as manager after they were last relegated from the Prem, after an awful spell with Koln, spelt trouble - even if we stick with Lambert, he's at least got Championship experience in 'steadying the ship' so to speak at Blackburn & Wolves
For every Sunderland or Wolves, there's a QPR or Hull who looked a worse mess than us, when they dropped out of the Prem, but bounced back first time (Albeit, then made a mess of it again & got relegated - but still)
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Post by Rick Grimes on Apr 18, 2018 11:45:39 GMT
Way too early to start thinking about a double relegation at this point, I'm hoping we'll be able to make the play-offs but there's a lot of things to take into consideration.
How much will be in the warchest?
Which players leave the club apart from the obvious ones like Shaqiri?
Is Cartwright still going to be at the club, and how much influence does he actually have over signings?
Does Lambert have a good eye for signings?
Can Scholes actually get some signings done and dusted early on in the window so that the team has enough time to gel before the season starts?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 18, 2018 11:51:51 GMT
Can't see this happening to us, big mistakes have been made by people at the top & some changes are needed (Looking at you Scholes & Cartwright), but I don't agree with this 'rotten to the core' talk I've seen some mention about our club - if you look the recent examples of clubs who've fallen through the Championship to League One, they've been in a worse state than we are Sunderland, for example, have an owner who clearly doesn't give a damn anymore - ours, despite making a balls up of things recently, can't be put in the same bracket as their owner Wolves appointing Stale Solbakken as manager after they were last relegated from the Prem, after an awful spell with Koln, spelt trouble - even if we stick with Lambert, he's at least got Championship experience in 'steadying the ship' so to speak at Blackburn & Wolves For every Sunderland or Wolves, there's a QPR or Hull who looked a worse mess than us, when they dropped out of the Prem, but bounced back first time (Albeit, then made a mess of it again & got relegated - but still) Does our owner care anymore? I think he does but I don't think those around him and who are the ones that control the money do. Nothing they've done in these last 3 years suggests they've done anything bar going through the motions.
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